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Post by freewilly on Dec 14, 2023 15:52:13 GMT
Lots of this is nonsense. 115 million records but their biggest selling album is 700000? Each album and single would have to have shifted a million copies each to reach that figure Think their singles combined sold near 7 million in the UK. Albums obviously would sell more, but I don't have any figures for that. Then you take into account the European markets, Australian market for awhile. I doubt it adds up to 115 million though
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Post by freewilly on Dec 13, 2023 12:23:39 GMT
Always heard that the RAOTW tour, it changed in terms of tightness and precision.
Perhaps nowt to do with the album. They were always going to become slick and well oiled the more they gigged
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Post by freewilly on Dec 12, 2023 12:04:35 GMT
Best way for me to describe the song is, it's like having your first pint, in your favourite bar at the weekend
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Post by freewilly on Dec 8, 2023 9:24:50 GMT
No, not really.
My Quo journey came to a halt in 2014. I've loved every second of it, both the good and the bad. Yet, I can't help but feel or wish I had have gotten more.
The joys of been born in the late 80s I guess. I missed out on the peaks of all my favourite artists
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Post by freewilly on Dec 7, 2023 18:50:32 GMT
Worst version I ever heard was from the NTL tour. JC changed the groove and it sounded meh.
Great song though. Agreed about the NEC version. Fanstastic.
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Post by freewilly on Nov 28, 2023 17:06:02 GMT
Thriller it is not. Don't mind it though. I like it
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Post by freewilly on Nov 22, 2023 15:14:51 GMT
I like this one.
It's not going to blow your mind or change your outlook on life, but it's a good song
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Post by freewilly on Nov 21, 2023 17:28:41 GMT
Even by 1982, the running around on stage had decreased from what it was in the 70's. They were positively manic in those days. The cables did get tangled up but the stage movements were obviously carefully choreographed. They had to be to avoid strangulation or whiplash! Not really sure why companies get so precious about these things. YouTube is a superb outlet for getting stuff out there. Isn't the whole point to get stuff out there? It's the same with merch. You see band t-shirts in places like Tesco and Asda but never Quo. Logos on a t-shirt is free advertising whether you get royalties for them or not. That Stones tongue is everywhere you look. They've not done too badly Quo in missing a trick shocker
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Post by freewilly on Nov 10, 2023 10:11:25 GMT
They could easily have reworked them.
Slide guitar, steel guitar, piano, strings. It was essentially whatever took as little effort as possible, with the exception of maybe 4 songs. POMM is great, but there's zero ambience
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Post by freewilly on Nov 7, 2023 23:12:19 GMT
It's a brand, not a band.
Same with The Stones, Kiss, AC/DC and whomever else
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Post by freewilly on Nov 7, 2023 22:47:51 GMT
When Quo fans say Alan was right, I always assumed it was within the context of producing stuff like Piledriver, Hello, Quo, WYW, NTL and JS. Which is perfect and what Quo are all about.
I do not recall any Quo fan ever saying they should have gone down the AC/DC route as they were never like that.
That said, Alan never came up with the goods after 1981. Neither did Francis, but it's clear as day Francis is very insecure about himself and if someone challenges him, he will defend that image and that ego, even if he is wrong.
The stuff he says about Rick and Alan, I do genuinely believe it's him defending his direction and mindset because he knows they were right. The stuff he says about the Quo album and writing credits. Fact is, if himself and Bob wrote better songs than Backwater, Just Take Me, Lonely Man, DTIM, they'd have made the album ahead of those songs. Francis even says in his book that Overdose has a fantastic vocal yet, says he hates when Rick did that. Go figure. It makes no sense unless you put it down to his way of thinking of how the music and band should have been.
Francis wrote his best stuff when there was a niggle or conflict. Most artists do. When you become comfortable, it's over
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Post by freewilly on Oct 19, 2023 22:14:20 GMT
A lot recycled from the delux edition liner notes, but these are new quotes I like... Andy: "There's a fuck of a lot of notes in that song." Rossi: "There are also two saxophones on that song but you can't fucking hear them." Andy saying that he played on 4500x is also new. And of course he's not very nice to the hardcore fan. But well, I wouldn't argue with him! I do remember hearing drums and bass, more or less where I'd expect them to be You certainly wouldn't know it from the official releases I've heard. Can't hear the bass on them. But perhaps this is a fault of Paxo's remixing. I probably need to search for the raw done-on-the-night mixes that Dark mentioned. I'm a musician of 20 years and it my ears, musically, it wasn't "all over the place" and once Francis said John kept slowing the songs down, people hopped on it and there are posts on here and on YT of people saying the songs were too slow. Utter bullshit. John slowed down on some songs on the first tour, but you'd really need to be listening to hear it and it was hardly noticeable to 95% of those who were there. I don't think I was all that actively reading all the posts at the time, but when I heard the reunion version of Down Down, it was blatantly obvious that the song was too fast for John. The question remains why they even played it, since it hadn't been on the 1976 live album... But as you said, it's different when you're there. Maybe. I think I have Francis' critical ear, even at a gig. It's not always pretty, because you want to enjoy things but can't help picking out things. I agree about Down Down. That was obvious in 2013. By the last few gigs in 2014, it was fine. I do remember Francis very clearly saying, "Go on Spud" once or twice, particularly in Caroline where John was on fire and Francis being into it and people saying it was Francis trying to speed John up. That's one example of what I meant
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Post by freewilly on Oct 16, 2023 14:16:38 GMT
Had Francis said what Andy said, i can only imagine the flak which would have come his way from all directions. It perhaps throws light on Francis thinking that 2016 should have been the last electric shows “We carried Rick for a year. He was on a lot of medication and wasn’t in a good place “ Sounds to me that Francis was trying to look after both Rick and the future of the band. Also shows what a trouper Rick was on stage that he could still give it his all despite not being 100 per cent Well, Andy never said it was good or bad. He just said Francis thought they were shit. People are blindsided by Francis' word on here and then go along with what he said. I know people on here who loved it at the time and then, once Francis said it, they started changing their opinion. I'm a musician of 20 years and it my ears, musically, it wasn't "all over the place" and once Francis said John kept slowing the songs down, people hopped on it and there are posts on here and on YT of people saying the songs were too slow. Utter bullshit. John slowed down on some songs on the first tour, but you'd really need to be listening to hear it and it was hardly noticeable to 95% of those who were there. Alan, he was an ill man. He dropped his plec a few times and recovered and never missed a beat, apart from the JW on the opening night in 2013. Ridiculously harsh and a dickhead move to throw that at him. Francis played incredibly but fucked up once or twice. Rick was perfect. Then, you throw into the mix that Alan and John had to use in ear monitors, which they'd never done before. It takes a musician awhile to get used to them in my experience, especially after being used to monitors on the floor for so many years. I genuinely do believe Francis was pissed at the success of them and he didnt want to go back to given control and having a democracy. Which is fair enough. He was and is in charge of the band since 1986. Health issues aside, the PR reason given for not keeping it going is utter bullshit. "Diminishing returns" my left foot! If that's the case, fold the other band then
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Post by freewilly on Oct 15, 2023 15:53:25 GMT
As for what he says in this clip. He may be correct that the band wasn't pulling together as a band and producing the right music. But if he isn't going to make the effort to get in there and work on the material, then what could he have expected? I echo this... Could say that... Reading between the lines, Francis wanted to be in control. He brought his songs forward, he was doing everything, Rick was told he wasn't needed on days he went in. Rick was insecure and he saw what happened Alan when he tried to put forward stuff and ideas. Granted, Rick could have helped the album, but if that is the case above, can't really blame him for not wanting to rock the cradle. Plus, he wasn't exactly writing anything particularly good at the time
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Post by freewilly on Oct 5, 2023 11:07:28 GMT
Rick would have been fine, in my opinion. He had good relations with artists. He had the look. He had the charisma. He had the stage presence and most importantly, he had the voice.
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