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Post by 4th Chord on Oct 4, 2023 14:56:15 GMT
and there was no need for Quo to reform (which let's face it, they did for money), would Rick have ridden the 80's hair metal wave?
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Post by MrWaistcoat on Oct 4, 2023 15:57:17 GMT
I don’t think so. Rick showed his hand with recorded delivery. He wanted mass appeal , diverse pop n poprock, with some old Quo standards to help fill the live set
If it had been early 80’s, reckon he would have formed some sort of heavy rock supergroup
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Post by quolion on Oct 5, 2023 8:00:38 GMT
Rick and Queen‘s Roger Taylor were very close in the early 80‘s and Rick co-wrote It‘s an Illusion for Roger‘s solo album Strange Frontier. There were also rumors that Rick will be part of Roger Taylor‘s side project (later the Cross) but Rick decided to stay with Francis and Quo. Their friendship went apart and there’s no answer - why..?! In 1985 Rick worked on some demos with Phil Lynott. He sadly died in early 1986 and nothing was finished. There are 2-3 demos released on a Phil Lynott bootleg.
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Post by freewilly on Oct 5, 2023 11:07:28 GMT
Rick would have been fine, in my opinion. He had good relations with artists.
He had the look. He had the charisma. He had the stage presence and most importantly, he had the voice.
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Post by curiousgirl on Oct 5, 2023 12:52:31 GMT
Rick would have been fine, in my opinion. He had good relations with artists. He had the look. He had the charisma. He had the stage presence and most importantly, he had the voice. I understand why you say this. But what I wonder is why didn't Rick see this about himself? That time he vacillated between setting up a band with Alan or Francis before sticking with Francis due to the record deal, if he had all that, he could have walked away, couldn't he? Maybe the drugs addled his mind. |
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Post by granny on Oct 5, 2023 13:05:14 GMT
Rick would have been fine, in my opinion. He had good relations with artists. He had the look. He had the charisma. He had the stage presence and most importantly, he had the voice. I understand why you say this. But what I wonder is why didn't Rick see this about himself? That time he vacillated between setting up a band with Alan or Francis before sticking with Francis due to the record deal, if he had all that, he could have walked away, couldn't he? Maybe the drugs addled his mind. The record deal money was a guarantee, the rest were just maybes. |
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Post by mortified on Oct 5, 2023 13:41:23 GMT
Just can't see Rick as a "hair metal" type if I'm honest. As already mentioned, Recorded Delivery demonstrated where he was at. And a good deal of that material came out under the Quo name.
He was a bit of a contradiction at times. Loved being a rock star but seemed to have that craving for mass appeal and even mainstream. That may have come with age to be fair, but he also liked that wave of adulation he in particular received during the reunion. He drove the first gigs in 2013 almost singlehandedly I thought.
Quo were and always will be the sum of all parts. Like most bands. You could hardly say Mick and Keef had successful solo careers. Which probably proves some sort of point. The Beatles bucked the trend more than anyone ever did.
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Post by curiousgirl on Oct 5, 2023 14:03:51 GMT
I understand why you say this. But what I wonder is why didn't Rick see this about himself? That time he vacillated between setting up a band with Alan or Francis before sticking with Francis due to the record deal, if he had all that, he could have walked away, couldn't he? Maybe the drugs addled his mind. The record deal money was a guarantee, the rest were just maybes. Agree, that is why he made the choice he did because I see Rick as insecure as Francis. With the guaranteed deal, he knew he had both the work, hopefully more fame and the money that came with it. Neither were like, say Jeff Beck who did walk away from work if he didn't think it was right for him, even if he didn't have anything else to go too. |
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Post by railroad007 on Oct 5, 2023 15:49:53 GMT
I think they were not very good as solo artists, bit like Pava without Rotti.
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Post by railroad007 on Oct 5, 2023 15:57:47 GMT
Just can't see Rick as a "hair metal" type if I'm honest. As already mentioned, Recorded Delivery demonstrated where he was at. And a good deal of that material came out under the Quo name. He was a bit of a contradiction at times. Loved being a rock star but seemed to have that craving for mass appeal and even mainstream. That may have come with age to be fair, but he also liked that wave of adulation he in particular received during the reunion. He drove the first gigs in 2013 almost singlehandedly I thought. Quo were and always will be the sum of all parts. Like most bands. You could hardly say Mick and Keef had successful solo careers. Which probably proves some sort of point. The Beatles bucked the trend more than anyone ever did. Here's some solo careers that never worked. The Captain Mary Dozy Sam Jan Peaches Peters Titch The Muffins |
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Post by granny on Oct 5, 2023 17:53:49 GMT
Mind you, Francis seems to be doing OK with his Tunes and Chat tour. His Fb publicity is a daily reminder with the photo shots from behind as he faces the audience in the mentioned town. And then you have the posted photos of the M&Gs and everyone saying what a genuine top bloke he is. And on days off he has a chat to camera and now the vinyl mini album. Can't be too many overheads.
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Post by 4th Chord on Oct 6, 2023 9:54:06 GMT
I think they were not very good as solo artists, bit like Pava without Rotti. Laurence without Llewelyn-Bowen |
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Post by asthequoflies on Oct 6, 2023 10:48:33 GMT
Gravy without the train! The Dark with the 'ness! (speaking of whom, their reissue of classic debut Permission to Land is released today)
I recall Charlie Watts summing it up well years ago - when on his own/solo project, he had maybe 4 journalists wanting to speak with him. When with the Stones, he had 40.
Whole greater than the sum of the parts; Rossi/Parfitt, Jagger/Richards, Tyler/Perry..etc are so identifiable as part of a collective, it is hard to view them in the same light under their own solo steam. Particularly for a legacy act, they've been part of a loved group for so long their place in music is cemented to that vision and place.
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Post by Mrs Flittersnoop on Oct 7, 2023 11:30:46 GMT
Rick would have been fine, in my opinion. He had good relations with artists. He had the look. He had the charisma. He had the stage presence and most importantly, he had the voice. I understand why you say this. But what I wonder is why didn't Rick see this about himself? That time he vacillated between setting up a band with Alan or Francis before sticking with Francis due to the record deal, if he had all that, he could have walked away, couldn't he? Maybe the drugs addled his mind.
Rick said (not much) later that he was much too optimistic and thought he could get a band together and "fill Wembley" (or suome such, I think he meant the arena) but it wasn't long before it sunk in that that was not going to happen. (Also "money management" and Rick are on opposite ends of any scale we could propose  )
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Post by fretbuzzzzz on Oct 7, 2023 12:51:03 GMT
I imagine Rick may have been able to get a show on the road and make some money. Sustaining it would have been a different matter. Though in terms of still making commercially viable records then he probably knew his limitations in terms of occasionally getting writer's block and that it was Francis who still had the knack (just) and flair to come up with the goods. Francis still had the drive, one way or another, to keep putting his head above the parapet.
Rick was very much in the (pomp) rock area in the mid 80s, of the 'Heartburn', 'Overdose', 'End of the Line', 'One for the Money', 'The Loving Game 'variety.
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