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Post by bloomer2016 on Jul 11, 2016 21:25:56 GMT
I could be wrong and this is by no way true just my take on why Quo are carrying on without Rick for now.
I would guess that the Status Quo name was spilt when the court case happened with Alan in the 80's.
The band is a business at the end of the day so my guess would be messers Rossi & Parfitt own the business.
Mr Rossi probably has the controlling share 51 to 49 Mr Parfitt & Simon Porter is an employee of the business getting the band gigs & record deals & taking a percentage of profits.
If they commit to a show but cannot then appear for whatever reason insurance would cover it.
I doubt that the band can get insured against failure to show anymore due to age & Ricks health problems therefore any gigs they cannot attend would have to be paid for out of the business funds. Loss of revenue and profits would be very expensive and if the band is having to pay these as compensation, then they would soon be heavily out of pocket.
So what are the options for the band, do not attend the gigs and pay the compensation or carry on without Rick & complete the gigs in some form or another & still get paid for showing up? I know if it was my business which one I would choose & I would think that the gigs add to the bands profits & Rick would still get paid some kind of income even though he is off sick.
AC/DC are a similar age & the same thing probably happened to them when they had committed to gigs that Brain could no longer do.
in comes a stand in to honour the confirmed gigs or pay the price.
At the end of the day it is up to Rick & his doctors if he is fit to return & I for one hopes that he can & does, but if is compromises his health & life then he should hang up the tele now & Quo should finish as soon as they have completed their committed gigs.
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Post by colmfoley on Jul 11, 2016 23:41:13 GMT
So basically your saying that if for some reason Rossi can't do some of the up coming gigs, that it is acceptable to replace him for the reasons you state above, and everyone else who thinks its ok to replace Rick are saying the very same thing. That a band without Rick and Rossi is still Quo, and acceptable to panto Quo fans..!! vomit_100_107
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2016 4:40:24 GMT
So basically your saying that if for some reason Rossi can't do some of the up coming gigs, that it is acceptable to replace him for the reasons you state above, and everyone else who thinks its ok to replace Rick are saying the very same thing. That a band without Rick and Rossi is still Quo, and acceptable to panto Quo fans..!! I assume what he's trying to say is, that the band can't afford to cancel that many gigs that aren't covered by insurance. If Francis was out too, they'd have to reschedule the gigs for next year - something they obviously are desperately trying to avoid, so there won't be any electric gigs again once this year is finished. (That's my hope for festival appearances next summer and a big final show with all members out of the window as well, but Rick's health comes first) In fact I guess they're desperately searching for a strategy to honor this year's commitments while getting Rick through them alive. A defibrillator implanted is about as bad as it gets. That's why I fully expect to see Freddie with them on stage during the winter tour too - to take as much strain from Rick as possible. We shall see though if Rick will even be allowed to touch an electric guitar again. In hindsight they left it one year too late .. |
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Post by MrWaistcoat on Jul 12, 2016 6:59:34 GMT
I understand why gigs without Rick happened this summer due to short notice. But I think the winter tour should be cancelled now, even if it means taking a hit. "last of the electrics", featuring Rick on all the posters, would be totally inappropriate without Rick. Otherwise, they could call the band Francis Rossis SQ, allow refunds where requested, and change the name of the tour.
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Post by whoaskedyou on Jul 12, 2016 7:07:13 GMT
Carry on touring....you could have made a series of comedy films...in the seventies...whoops don't give them any more ideas..lucky it has already been done.
Whatever the financial reasons etc etc..the show must go on etc etc......Quo without Rick is not Quo is it...he is the only rocker left really the others are party rock and Francis just seems to be indulging himself from the clips I have seen recently.
Again if you just want to hear the songs fine bur this is moving further and further away from the band we know is out there but not together.
Best wishes to Rick.
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Post by lazypokerblues on Jul 12, 2016 7:36:42 GMT
It makes me laugh when people say Quo is not Quo without Rick.
Status Quo has been going for 50 years, only 15 of which had Frame, Nuff, Spud & Regg in the band.
Was it still Status Quo after John left? I thought it still was.
Was it still Status Quo after Alan left? Not really, but I've had 30 years to get used to the idea.
Is it still Status Quo when Rick is not in it? Well it still sounds pretty much the same.
When I went to see Francis play his solo tour and he played all those great never before heard Quo songs like Claudie & You'll Come Round etc., I enjoyed it so much more than any Quo gig I'd been to recently at the time. I don't think a group of musicians could go out on stage without Francis Rossi and call themselves Status Quo.
It's really just about the music. I've enjoyed a variety of Quo tribute bands recently, and none of them have got any original band members in it, but I've enjoyed it because of the music. I'll enjoy watching 'Status Quo' because of the authenticity of Francis Rossi's voice and guitar playing, but that's about it. They've been on karaoke autopilot for so long now, that it's pointless to start picking holes in it now. It is what it is.
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Post by noizeboyz on Jul 12, 2016 9:00:47 GMT
Put the boot on the other foot, If Rossi had been taken i'll would they have got a stand in replacement and carried on..? I don't think so
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Post by lazypokerblues on Jul 12, 2016 9:07:37 GMT
Nope - no way would 'Status Quo' go on stage without Rossi.
And that just shows how indispensable he is to the brand.
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Post by colmfoley on Jul 12, 2016 11:46:56 GMT
Nope - no way would 'Status Quo' go on stage without Rossi. And that just shows how indispensable he is to the brand. Nothing would surprise me, seems they'd try anything to keep the brand going, if not the Band. |
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Post by threechordboogie on Jul 12, 2016 11:58:31 GMT
In hindsight they left it one year too late .. Yup. |
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Post by lazypokerblues on Jul 12, 2016 12:16:56 GMT
Colm - but it would be like watching Diesel band: there would be a vibe of 'oh there's those guys out of Status Quo' - but it wouldn't necessarily feel like it was genuinely Status Quo unless Rossi was involved.
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Post by Gaz on Jul 12, 2016 12:21:01 GMT
Colm - but it would be like watching Diesel band: there would be a vibe of 'oh there's those guys out of Status Quo' - but it wouldn't necessarily feel like it was genuinely Status Quo unless Rossi was involved. Yep, no doubt Francis is top dog in Quo, so do you reckon they'd do these upcoming gigs if Francis was too crook to do them? |
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Post by curiousgirl on Jul 12, 2016 12:26:00 GMT
Colm - but it would be like watching Diesel band: there would be a vibe of 'oh there's those guys out of Status Quo' - but it wouldn't necessarily feel like it was genuinely Status Quo unless Rossi was involved. Yep, no doubt Francis is top dog in Quo, so do you reckon they'd do these upcoming gigs if Francis was too crook to do them? Gaz - there are 2 re-scheduled gigs on this summer tour - Rochester Castle and Ingliston and I believe that one was due to Francis being ill. The Edinburgh one. I think Rick was sick for the other. Make of that what you will. |
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Post by Gaz on Jul 12, 2016 12:53:22 GMT
Yep, no doubt Francis is top dog in Quo, so do you reckon they'd do these upcoming gigs if Francis was too crook to do them? Gaz - there are 2 re-scheduled gigs on this summer tour - Rochester Castle and Ingliston and I believe that one was due to Francis being ill. The Edinburgh one. I think Rick was sick for the other. Make of that what you will. The logical thing to do. For a band, in their position, I'm amazed they don't have insurance cover for all situations and if so cover that with the price of tickets. In my business ALL is covered. |
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Post by bloomer2016 on Jul 12, 2016 20:05:04 GMT
There is no way I am saying it is acceptable to me that they are touring without Rick, Quo are not Quo without Rick and Francis fronting the band. The last time I went to see them was on the FF tour. I never got to see this line up live so for me the best gig ever. I may well go to the last of the eletrics tour if Rick is playing but won't if they go ahead and he is not there. As for the insurance I doubt that any insurance company would touch Rick with all his health issues, they only like taking money when the odds are stacked in there favour at the end of the day. The rest of the band may well be insured so it would be a different issue if it was Francis. Plus if Francis is the main share holder he would have more of a say than the rest of the band so he might say I can't play the gigs are canceled. Alan made a comment on the FF video " It is Francis band so doing any more shows is up to him" say no more!
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