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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2016 14:48:10 GMT
Surely no-one can really be surprised at this? I'm not. I didn't believe all this 'last night of the electrics' promotional gimmick crap for one second. It's like 1984 End Of The Road all over again. Why does no-one do anything about it? Why is Porter so untouchable? Any other band he would get booted out - literally. Quo fans don't seem to care.
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Post by Detroit on Dec 2, 2016 16:36:03 GMT
Surely no-one can really be surprised at this? I'm not. I didn't believe all this 'last night of the electrics' promotional gimmick crap for one second. It's like 1984 End Of The Road all over again.
For 30 years the band have to a very large extent, been promoted as a 'double act', the cheeky chappie, lovable cockney comedy duo on (often dubious choices) of morning programs etc etc, some of the album covers have just the 2 of them on etc. So I honestly have always believed that when the time came that one of the 'double act' was no longer able to do it, they would stop. I was wrong in that belief.
Without Rick Parfitt this should now be called 'The Francis Rossi Band'
Mikey Akin to the different anniversary years to promote crap albums.
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Post by wolfman on Dec 2, 2016 16:55:21 GMT
the final farewell tour part 3...the end of the electric tour ever part 2.this is the end of the end of the end...well at least to next year after next ..year..what was that status quo have more comebacks than british rail..
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Post by steveh on Dec 2, 2016 17:54:43 GMT
I was today offered free tickets for the BIC gig next Friday, i showed the Mrs the text and said i wasn't interested even though its a freebie, anyway, she said come on, its a free night out!! I then checked my work roster and it turned out that i'm rostered to work that night so can't go. I felt no sense of disapointment whatsoever, a few years ago i wouldve been GUTTED!! especially with it being a freebie. How things can change.....maybe i've grown up at last!! Nah more likely that i dont want that shit inflicted on my ears anymore, not even for free.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2016 18:20:44 GMT
There most certainly was criticism of the second FF gigs being announced. The issue with the Last night of the electrics announcement is that it's the same, dishonest. I for example was more than happy to see the second FF gigs, however, doesn't mean that I wasn't annoyed at the marketing used. Although, the first gigs were 'The Return of the Frantic Four'. Exactly! Plus, the songs were played how they should be played.
I'm not having a go at Richie here but, Caroline isn't the same without Rick. Richie cannot do the intro properly and it loses it's power
In what way can Richie not do the intro properly and how many gigs this tour have you seen him do it live to prove your point?
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Post by freewilly on Dec 2, 2016 20:06:23 GMT
Exactly! Plus, the songs were played how they should be played.
I'm not having a go at Richie here but, Caroline isn't the same without Rick. Richie cannot do the intro properly and it loses it's power
In what way can Richie not do the intro properly and how many gigs this tour have you seen him do it live to prove your point? Ahhh yes, the man who sits on the fence is here. But, Richie can't do it properly, the way Rick does it, because he cannot do it with the same technique, uniqueness and power the way Rick done it. It sounds very empty with him doing it and you can see he's not hitting it with the same power or dynamic affect. How many shows have I seen? Bit of a shit arguement, even for you but, I've seen a shit load of clips of Caroline that prove my point and I also know someone, who attended one of the gigs, who personally told me that they agreed with me. More to the fucking point, there is only one Rick Parfitt! Only he can play those songs the way he can! You should have thought about that before you asked me to prove my point Oh and I'm also a guitarist of 15 years, with 9 years of gigging and recording experience behind me. That might have something to do with my argument also
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2016 20:45:35 GMT
In what way can Richie not do the intro properly and how many gigs this tour have you seen him do it live to prove your point? Ahhh yes, the man who sits on the fence is here. But, Richie can't do it properly, the way Rick does it, because he cannot do it with the same technique, uniqueness and power the way Rick done it. It sounds very empty with him doing it and you can see he's not hitting it with the same power or dynamic affect. How many shows have I seen? Bit of a shit arguement, even for you but, I've seen a shit load of clips of Caroline that prove my point and I also know someone, who attended one of the gigs, who personally told me that they agreed with me. More to the fucking point, there is only one Rick Parfitt! Only he can play those songs the way he can! You should have thought about that before you asked me to prove my point Oh and I'm also a guitarist of 15 years, with 9 years of gigging and recording experience behind me. That might have something to do with my argument also I wouldn't call it sitting on the fence, just 50 odd years of going to gigs and seeing all my favourite bands go through exactly what Quo is now, I remember seeing Purple for the first time without Blackmore and Gillan and then what became the revolving door policy of Whitesnake, Rainbow, Sabbath, I can't even remember the last time I saw a Smokie gig with all four "original" members. "Musical differences" seem to afflict rock and prog bands far more than other types of music and for me it was a case of either accepting line-up changes or stopping going to gigs in the late 70s. I have been to gigs on this tour and over the summer and true, Richie doesn't have the same style that Rick did, but then neither did Tommy Bolin as Ritchie or so many others we could all name, the main problem in the gigs is that Richie's guitar has been much lower in the mix than Rick's ever was, you can guess who insisted on that. Good luck with your career, I also think I know what I'm talking about as I've been gigging and recording for the last 38 years, but in your eyes that probably wouldn't count as I only play Hammond and piano.
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Post by taximan2002 on Dec 2, 2016 21:15:34 GMT
The clips of Caroline that I've seen sound fine, sure Richie isn't Rick, nobody ever will be but he's doing it in his style. He has said that in interviews, he doesn't want to be a copy of the great man, it would be disrespectful...
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Post by charles on Dec 2, 2016 21:53:56 GMT
Oh dear, if that's true about not being able to play guitar, that sounds bad for Rick Maybe you should create a separate thread about this interview........? I will. Quoting the bits that were new to me, maybe combining them to the interview with Rick in the Classic Rock magazine (which I've bought). Strange days indeed...
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Post by freewilly on Dec 2, 2016 22:01:26 GMT
Ahhh yes, the man who sits on the fence is here. But, Richie can't do it properly, the way Rick does it, because he cannot do it with the same technique, uniqueness and power the way Rick done it. It sounds very empty with him doing it and you can see he's not hitting it with the same power or dynamic affect. How many shows have I seen? Bit of a shit arguement, even for you but, I've seen a shit load of clips of Caroline that prove my point and I also know someone, who attended one of the gigs, who personally told me that they agreed with me. More to the fucking point, there is only one Rick Parfitt! Only he can play those songs the way he can! You should have thought about that before you asked me to prove my point Oh and I'm also a guitarist of 15 years, with 9 years of gigging and recording experience behind me. That might have something to do with my argument also I wouldn't call it sitting on the fence, just 50 odd years of going to gigs and seeing all my favourite bands go through exactly what Quo is now, I remember seeing Purple for the first time without Blackmore and Gillan and then what became the revolving door policy of Whitesnake, Rainbow, Sabbath, I can't even remember the last time I saw a Smokie gig with all four "original" members. "Musical differences" seem to afflict rock and prog bands far more than other types of music and for me it was a case of either accepting line-up changes or stopping going to gigs in the late 70s. I have been to gigs on this tour and over the summer and true, Richie doesn't have the same style that Rick did, but then neither did Tommy Bolin as Ritchie or so many others we could all name, the main problem in the gigs is that Richie's guitar has been much lower in the mix than Rick's ever was, you can guess who insisted on that. Good luck with your career, I also think I know what I'm talking about as I've been gigging and recording for the last 38 years, but in your eyes that probably wouldn't count as I only play Hammond and piano. 100% right. It doesn't count. Sorry. I've spent all those years, studying Rossi, May, Parfitt, Rory and Angus. Obviously you do what you do and I do what I do. Lower in the mix, maybe but, you can hear it. Even the band speeds up when they join in. As I said, I'm not having a go at him. He's not Parfitt, never will be and he's making the most of his opportunity. Anyone would do that. But, like Rhino, he took the place of a main man. He's gonna be compared to him
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Post by paul70 on Dec 3, 2016 14:32:41 GMT
Ahhh yes, the man who sits on the fence is here. But, Richie can't do it properly, the way Rick does it, because he cannot do it with the same technique, uniqueness and power the way Rick done it. It sounds very empty with him doing it and you can see he's not hitting it with the same power or dynamic affect. How many shows have I seen? Bit of a shit arguement, even for you but, I've seen a shit load of clips of Caroline that prove my point and I also know someone, who attended one of the gigs, who personally told me that they agreed with me. More to the fucking point, there is only one Rick Parfitt! Only he can play those songs the way he can! You should have thought about that before you asked me to prove my point Oh and I'm also a guitarist of 15 years, with 9 years of gigging and recording experience behind me. That might have something to do with my argument also I wouldn't call it sitting on the fence, just 50 odd years of going to gigs and seeing all my favourite bands go through exactly what Quo is now, I remember seeing Purple for the first time without Blackmore and Gillan and then what became the revolving door policy of Whitesnake, Rainbow, Sabbath, I can't even remember the last time I saw a Smokie gig with all four "original" members. "Musical differences" seem to afflict rock and prog bands far more than other types of music and for me it was a case of either accepting line-up changes or stopping going to gigs in the late 70s. I have been to gigs on this tour and over the summer and true, Richie doesn't have the same style that Rick did, but then neither did Tommy Bolin as Ritchie or so many others we could all name, the main problem in the gigs is that Richie's guitar has been much lower in the mix than Rick's ever was, you can guess who insisted on that. Good luck with your career, I also think I know what I'm talking about as I've been gigging and recording for the last 38 years, but in your eyes that probably wouldn't count as I only play Hammond and piano. a bit tragicomic explaining- this willyboy i mean. Fella is maybe 20 years old something.
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Post by cactuspete on Dec 3, 2016 17:24:38 GMT
Money talks,it can't sing and it don't walk.
He's cashing in.
If I were his age,I would do the same.
Cynical? Moi!!
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Post by Mrs Flittersnoop on Dec 4, 2016 15:55:50 GMT
From FaceTube! 'NOT The Last Night Of The Electrics'... Following the incredible reaction and success of the current European Tour and as a result of requests from fans and promoters alike, Quo are delighted to announce that the Last Night of the Electrics tour will be extended into 2017, initially visiting territories not included on the current tour. The tour - which will continue to feature guest guitarist Richie Malone - will run alongside a series of Aquostic shows already planned for 2017. Watch this space for further details! (Though this may be away of extending the current band until Rick is able to return and play electric again) Right then, they can afford to send a helicopter for me and the Mr next week ...
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Post by Mrs Flittersnoop on Dec 4, 2016 16:08:08 GMT
I can appreciate why you point the finger at Francis, Freewilly but I do wonder if it is that simple. During the 80s, drugs and endless touring wore them down. Agree that John was despatched rather than listened to. And that is what really should have happened. But whether or not it was with the anger you now view this, I'm less sure. Badly handled rather than malicious is how I see it. With Alan, I see it as the battle of the two leaders. Both wanted to lead the band and that would never work, so one had to leave. And as Francis was the one who the record company wanted, he survived and Alan didn't. And again, very badly managed. And then there were two. I remember in the 2001 C4 doc that Rick and Francis spent little time together on the bus. So its clear that they had only been work mates rather than close friends for a very long time. And yes, the FF documentary reveals all their frustrations and musical differences over where they wanted to take the Status Quo name. And Francis had the power for sure this time in preventing that continuing because by this point he is the driving force of Quo. I do believe that if Francis hadn't wanted to keep the band going, it would have ended a long time ago. But he did and so that gave Rick a platform to play alongside him. Where I do feel for Rick is that he's had to bow out for health reasons, that must be the truth of it rather than acoustic Quo, but now they've found a replacement and the audience numbers are holding, the Franchise Quo carries on regardless of any individual. And for Rick that must be hard to see the band continuing as a rock band without him. Because for me he was equally important to the original Quo sound as Francis. Yep. Even though Francis was my hero for a long time, I have always realized that it all would never have sounded the way it did if Rick hadn't been there. I think Victor has it here. Mind you I don't know yet as I have not had the chance to see the current line up. But Francis has been falling off bit by bit for a long time. (Be specific, Mrs F: his commitment to both his guitar playing and his singing in Quo isn't what it was. Rick hasn't. OK his voice isn't as strong as it was, but the essential Rick was there.
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Post by Mrs Flittersnoop on Dec 4, 2016 16:11:07 GMT
... I should really lock them all away for 2 or 3 years and then play them again so it sounds fresh again. I thought you meant the band for a moment! I've been saying this for years
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