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Post by jaynieeee on Dec 4, 2016 23:19:32 GMT
Going to throw a cat in amongst the pigeons.
Francis has said for a while that he wanted to devote more time to other projects.
Why aren't they touring as Francis Rossi Band (other than contracts that will already have been signed)?
A Francis Rossi Band would have seen any profits* from it go to Francis (and other members of "his" band) and not into the coffers of Status Quo Limited - so who would suffer?
Yes, Francis wasted a lot of money, lost some on a business deal (happy to be corrected on that) and had a large family to look after. However, he has had a stable private life (by all accounts) for a long time, doesn't have an overly extravagant lifestyle, so is likely OK money wise, and, some solo and producing work along with Quo royalties and he would likely be OK.
News reports suggest that another member of Status Quo Limited may not have that level of financial (and home) comfort.
At the time of the FF tours, there was word of them giving Alan/John a financial boost, that may or may not have been the case, although all four likely got a "boost".
So taking Quo out on an "extended" electric tour (which I think most of us would agree is more likely to pull people in than an acoustic one), is there someone, who isn't on the tour, who could benefit?
Maybe, the insecure little show off, isn't quite as cold hearted as people think.
*yes, I know likely smaller crowds/profits
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Post by freewilly on Dec 5, 2016 1:36:37 GMT
Going to throw a cat in amongst the pigeons. Francis has said for a while that he wanted to devote more time to other projects. Why aren't they touring as Francis Rossi Band (other than contracts that will already have been signed)? A Francis Rossi Band would have seen any profits* from it go to Francis (and other members of "his" band) and not into the coffers of Status Quo Limited - so who would suffer? Yes, Francis wasted a lot of money, lost some on a business deal (happy to be corrected on that) and had a large family to look after. However, he has had a stable private life (by all accounts) for a long time, doesn't have an overly extravagant lifestyle, so is likely OK money wise, and, some solo and producing work along with Quo royalties and he would likely be OK. News reports suggest that another member of Status Quo Limited may not have that level of financial (and home) comfort. At the time of the FF tours, there was word of them giving Alan/John a financial boost, that may or may not have been the case, although all four likely got a "boost". So taking Quo out on an "extended" electric tour (which I think most of us would agree is more likely to pull people in than an acoustic one), is there someone, who isn't on the tour, who could benefit? Maybe, the insecure little show off, isn't quite as cold hearted as people think. *yes, I know likely smaller crowds/profits Rick won't play any gigs on this tour. Rick is not employed on this tour. Francis shafted Alan, his lifetime friend, not once but twice....Not a hope in hell is Rick getting any money from this
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Post by Gaz on Dec 5, 2016 1:37:42 GMT
Going to throw a cat in amongst the pigeons. Francis has said for a while that he wanted to devote more time to other projects. Why aren't they touring as Francis Rossi Band (other than contracts that will already have been signed)? A Francis Rossi Band would have seen any profits* from it go to Francis (and other members of "his" band) and not into the coffers of Status Quo Limited - so who would suffer? Yes, Francis wasted a lot of money, lost some on a business deal (happy to be corrected on that) and had a large family to look after. However, he has had a stable private life (by all accounts) for a long time, doesn't have an overly extravagant lifestyle, so is likely OK money wise, and, some solo and producing work along with Quo royalties and he would likely be OK. News reports suggest that another member of Status Quo Limited may not have that level of financial (and home) comfort. At the time of the FF tours, there was word of them giving Alan/John a financial boost, that may or may not have been the case, although all four likely got a "boost". So taking Quo out on an "extended" electric tour (which I think most of us would agree is more likely to pull people in than an acoustic one), is there someone, who isn't on the tour, who could benefit? Maybe, the insecure little show off, isn't quite as cold hearted as people think. *yes, I know likely smaller crowds/profits Good point....if that's the case then a bittersweet deal for Rick.
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Post by freewilly on Dec 5, 2016 1:49:41 GMT
Going to throw a cat in amongst the pigeons. Francis has said for a while that he wanted to devote more time to other projects. Why aren't they touring as Francis Rossi Band (other than contracts that will already have been signed)? A Francis Rossi Band would have seen any profits* from it go to Francis (and other members of "his" band) and not into the coffers of Status Quo Limited - so who would suffer? Yes, Francis wasted a lot of money, lost some on a business deal (happy to be corrected on that) and had a large family to look after. However, he has had a stable private life (by all accounts) for a long time, doesn't have an overly extravagant lifestyle, so is likely OK money wise, and, some solo and producing work along with Quo royalties and he would likely be OK. News reports suggest that another member of Status Quo Limited may not have that level of financial (and home) comfort. At the time of the FF tours, there was word of them giving Alan/John a financial boost, that may or may not have been the case, although all four likely got a "boost". So taking Quo out on an "extended" electric tour (which I think most of us would agree is more likely to pull people in than an acoustic one), is there someone, who isn't on the tour, who could benefit? Maybe, the insecure little show off, isn't quite as cold hearted as people think. *yes, I know likely smaller crowds/profits Good point....if that's the case then a bittersweet deal for Rick. Bit like the way John, Alan, Pete, Matt, Paul and Jeff still get money from tours.... Oh wait.... Come on now....Let's call a spade a spade here....Rick is getting nothing
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Post by Gaz on Dec 5, 2016 2:03:29 GMT
Good point....if that's the case then a bittersweet deal for Rick. Bit like the way John, Alan, Pete, Matt, Paul and Jeff still get money from tours.... Oh wait.... Come on now....Let's call a spade a spade here....Rick is getting nothing Are you sure about that? Can you back it up?
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Post by freewilly on Dec 5, 2016 2:41:46 GMT
Bit like the way John, Alan, Pete, Matt, Paul and Jeff still get money from tours.... Oh wait.... Come on now....Let's call a spade a spade here....Rick is getting nothing Are you sure about that? Can you back it up? Well, according Patty Parfitt, Rick is perfectly healthy and will tour next year, as a solo artist.... So, if he's doing that, he ain't getting a penny. Plus, Alan spent the best part of 30 years suing Francis, which means he obviously didn't get a penny from the tours when he was out of the band No offence but if you and anyone else are deluded enough to believe that Rick is getting paid, for a tour, he is not playing in, then I'm dumbfounded. Just like Taximan is for liking your post. Seriously, has anyone learned anything about this lot? ZZ Top are on tour in the summer. Rick won't be there. He won't be playing a note on the tour. You reckon he's getting paid for that too? Oh and they hurriedly scraped Rick's face off almost every single bit of merchandise to do with the tour and Richie is not going to do a full tour, whilst taking time off work, to not get full payment... Rick is not getting any money from this tour. I thought it was common knowledge but, obviously not Rick is done with Quo. It's over! He's gone! The mother of his child has essentially confirmed he's booked to record and will tour his album. What more evidence anyone needs is beyond me..
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Post by Gaz on Dec 5, 2016 5:17:13 GMT
Are you sure about that? Can you back it up? Well, according Patty Parfitt, Rick is perfectly healthy and will tour next year, as a solo artist.... So, if he's doing that, he ain't getting a penny. Plus, Alan spent the best part of 30 years suing Francis, which means he obviously didn't get a penny from the tours when he was out of the band No offence but if you and anyone else are deluded enough to believe that Rick is getting paid, for a tour, he is not playing in, then I'm dumbfounded. Just like Taximan is for liking your post. Seriously, has anyone learned anything about this lot? ZZ Top are on tour in the summer. Rick won't be there. He won't be playing a note on the tour. You reckon he's getting paid for that too? Oh and they hurriedly scraped Rick's face off almost every single bit of merchandise to do with the tour and Richie is not going to do a full tour, whilst taking time off work, to not get full payment... Rick is not getting any money from this tour. I thought it was common knowledge but, obviously not Rick is done with Quo. It's over! He's gone! The mother of his child has essentially confirmed he's booked to record and will tour his album. What more evidence anyone needs is beyond me.. freewilly, I suggest you take a deep breath and settle down a bit eh. :-) jaynieeee just suggested her idea of Rick MAYBE still getting a kickback from the tour he signed up for and I merely said IF that was the case then it would be bittersweet for him. We're not deluded ok? It's just talk among people on this board, including you, who have absolutely no idea what is happening in Camp Quo re: Rick. Hope this clears it up.
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Post by taximan2002 on Dec 5, 2016 13:16:40 GMT
Oh, my ears are burning for liking a comment... :-)
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Post by The Lord Flasheart on Dec 5, 2016 14:07:43 GMT
Going to throw a cat in amongst the pigeons. Francis has said for a while that he wanted to devote more time to other projects. Why aren't they touring as Francis Rossi Band (other than contracts that will already have been signed)? A Francis Rossi Band would have seen any profits* from it go to Francis (and other members of "his" band) and not into the coffers of Status Quo Limited - so who would suffer?
Yes, Francis wasted a lot of money, lost some on a business deal (happy to be corrected on that) and had a large family to look after. However, he has had a stable private life (by all accounts) for a long time, doesn't have an overly extravagant lifestyle, so is likely OK money wise, and, some solo and producing work along with Quo royalties and he would likely be OK. News reports suggest that another member of Status Quo Limited may not have that level of financial (and home) comfort. At the time of the FF tours, there was word of them giving Alan/John a financial boost, that may or may not have been the case, although all four likely got a "boost". So taking Quo out on an "extended" electric tour (which I think most of us would agree is more likely to pull people in than an acoustic one), is there someone, who isn't on the tour, who could benefit? Maybe, the insecure little show off, isn't quite as cold hearted as people think. *yes, I know likely smaller crowds/profits Andy and Rhino both have a small share in Status Quo LTD. Francis and Rick have the lions share, so any profits made by that company. Are shared out between them.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2016 15:28:07 GMT
Good point....if that's the case then a bittersweet deal for Rick. Bit like the way John, Alan, Pete, Matt, Paul and Jeff still get money from tours.... Oh wait.... Come on now....Let's call a spade a spade here....Rick is getting nothing Err, of course Rick is going to get paid, he does still get paid royalties for the songs played that have his name in the writing credits!!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2016 15:39:32 GMT
Are you sure about that? Can you back it up? Well, according Patty Parfitt, Rick is perfectly healthy and will tour next year, as a solo artist.... So, if he's doing that, he ain't getting a penny. Plus, Alan spent the best part of 30 years suing Francis, which means he obviously didn't get a penny from the tours when he was out of the band No offence but if you and anyone else are deluded enough to believe that Rick is getting paid, for a tour, he is not playing in, then I'm dumbfounded. Just like Taximan is for liking your post. Seriously, has anyone learned anything about this lot? ZZ Top are on tour in the summer. Rick won't be there. He won't be playing a note on the tour. You reckon he's getting paid for that too? Oh and they hurriedly scraped Rick's face off almost every single bit of merchandise to do with the tour and Richie is not going to do a full tour, whilst taking time off work, to not get full payment... Rick is not getting any money from this tour. I thought it was common knowledge but, obviously not Rick is done with Quo. It's over! He's gone! The mother of his child has essentially confirmed he's booked to record and will tour his album. What more evidence anyone needs is beyond me.. I'd take anything Patty Parfitt says with the hugest grain of salt known to man, she's just trying to hold on to any last vestiges of celebrity in any way she can, publicity shy she's not. It was obvious that she never changed her surname back after the divorce and presumably with Rick now available after his supposed latest marriage breakdown the rockchick limpet has got her eyes back on the prize.
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Post by freewilly on Dec 5, 2016 16:34:38 GMT
Well, according Patty Parfitt, Rick is perfectly healthy and will tour next year, as a solo artist.... So, if he's doing that, he ain't getting a penny. Plus, Alan spent the best part of 30 years suing Francis, which means he obviously didn't get a penny from the tours when he was out of the band No offence but if you and anyone else are deluded enough to believe that Rick is getting paid, for a tour, he is not playing in, then I'm dumbfounded. Just like Taximan is for liking your post. Seriously, has anyone learned anything about this lot? ZZ Top are on tour in the summer. Rick won't be there. He won't be playing a note on the tour. You reckon he's getting paid for that too? Oh and they hurriedly scraped Rick's face off almost every single bit of merchandise to do with the tour and Richie is not going to do a full tour, whilst taking time off work, to not get full payment... Rick is not getting any money from this tour. I thought it was common knowledge but, obviously not Rick is done with Quo. It's over! He's gone! The mother of his child has essentially confirmed he's booked to record and will tour his album. What more evidence anyone needs is beyond me.. I'd take anything Patty Parfitt says with the hugest grain of salt known to man, she's just trying to hold on to any last vestiges of celebrity in any way she can, publicity shy she's not. It was obvious that she never changed her surname back after the divorce and presumably with Rick now available after his supposed latest marriage breakdown the rockchick limpet has got her eyes back on the prize. Hmmm good point
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Post by freewilly on Dec 5, 2016 16:35:25 GMT
Bit like the way John, Alan, Pete, Matt, Paul and Jeff still get money from tours.... Oh wait.... Come on now....Let's call a spade a spade here....Rick is getting nothing Err, of course Rick is going to get paid, he does still get paid royalties for the songs played that have his name in the writing credits!! Oh but can you back that up? Have you evidence of Porter and Rossi filling out the Royalty forms, straight after a gig? Nah, didn't think so
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Post by Victor on Dec 5, 2016 16:54:57 GMT
Err, of course Rick is going to get paid, he does still get paid royalties for the songs played that have his name in the writing credits!! Oh but can you back that up? Have you evidence of Porter and Rossi filling out the Royalty forms, straight after a gig? Nah, didn't think so While your question is certainly valid I could ask you if you have evidence that they didn't fill out the forms
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2016 16:58:55 GMT
Err, of course Rick is going to get paid, he does still get paid royalties for the songs played that have his name in the writing credits!! Oh but can you back that up? Have you evidence of Porter and Rossi filling out the Royalty forms, straight after a gig? Nah, didn't think so Okay, lets go with your logic here... Can you prove they haven't?? No, didn't think so Seriously mate, i don't know what the bee in your bonnet is all about. But you're literally finding excuses to be angry and that isn't helpful. Do you honestly think Parfitt, in whatever financial state he's in, wouldn't want to still get paid his Royalties? Also, do you really believe that filling out the ASCAP/BMI or whatever forms for such things would be filled out by Porter or Rossi.. i'm sure they'd have a designated person to do such things. I'm pretty certain it's not just Rossi and Porter that run every aspect of Quo.
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