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Post by Gaz on Dec 1, 2016 21:41:32 GMT
And when some muppets and joe public buy tickets knowing rick won't be there...it allows rossi to carry on....words fail my annoyance at this.. I do understand your frustration....but the simple fact is that most gig-goers for most bands are not diehards. There's loads of bands I like where I don't know much about the band members. I quite like Uriah Heap, but could only recognise one of them, and just about guess at his name. If I paid to see UFO, I would want certain songs but really wouldn't care who played. The paying public are always entitled to be as fickle, fussy (or unfussy) as they like. I think there's a band touring called Thin Lizzy. Hardcore fans probably think that's a disgrace. I just like the music, and would probably go if the price and venue suited. Well said and know exactly what you mean. For me, nothing will better the Quo I saw back in the 70s but the times I've seen Quo, on their tours of Australia from '97 on, have been fantastic....they're a great live band and to witness Rick Parfitt at full cry merely a few feet away is something to behold. Now that he's not in the band anymore means I've no interest seeing them again. I guess the beauty of living over here is that they don't come over that often so's we don't see the same set and gibberish talk from Francis every year. Agree, I've seen many bands over the years where I wouldn't have a clue who the original members are but still put on a great show.
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Post by rockonquo on Dec 2, 2016 4:04:51 GMT
They say the show must go on, what happens if Rossi get's ill & can't perform. Do they get a replacement to get someone else, would people still go to see quo live then. I suppose they'll do the AC-DC thing & bring a well known in or Freddie.
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Post by charles on Dec 2, 2016 7:19:19 GMT
I can appreciate why you point the finger at Francis, Freewilly but I do wonder if it is that simple. During the 80s, drugs and endless touring wore them down. Agree that John was despatched rather than listened to. And that is what really should have happened. But whether or not it was with the anger you now view this, I'm less sure. Badly handled rather than malicious is how I see it. With Alan, I see it as the battle of the two leaders. Both wanted to lead the band and that would never work, so one had to leave. And as Francis was the one who the record company wanted, he survived and Alan didn't. And again, very badly managed. And then there were two. I remember in the 2001 C4 doc that Rick and Francis spent little time together on the bus. So its clear that they had only been work mates rather than close friends for a very long time. And yes, the FF documentary reveals all their frustrations and musical differences over where they wanted to take the Status Quo name. And Francis had the power for sure this time in preventing that continuing because by this point he is the driving force of Quo. I do believe that if Francis hadn't wanted to keep the band going, it would have ended a long time ago. But he did and so that gave Rick a platform to play alongside him. Where I do feel for Rick is that he's had to bow out for health reasons, that must be the truth of it rather than acoustic Quo, but now they've found a replacement and the audience numbers are holding, the Franchise Quo carries on regardless of any individual. And for Rick that must be hard to see the band continuing as a rock band without him. Because for me he was equally important to the original Quo sound as Francis. This is exactly what I think about the old band members, 'hate' is probably too strong a word and mainly applicable to the troubled relationship with Alan. Yesterday I read a new interview with Francis in Belgian magazine Humo (should date from their gig in Tilburg, Holland). It starts off with Rick's health. Francis: "He's recovering, but very slowly. He can walk and speak, but certainly not play the guitar, let alone go on tour. Maybe indefinitely. Although he can't accept that at all." (My translation).
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Post by vivfromcov on Dec 2, 2016 8:14:55 GMT
I can appreciate why you point the finger at Francis, Freewilly but I do wonder if it is that simple. During the 80s, drugs and endless touring wore them down. Agree that John was despatched rather than listened to. And that is what really should have happened. But whether or not it was with the anger you now view this, I'm less sure. Badly handled rather than malicious is how I see it. With Alan, I see it as the battle of the two leaders. Both wanted to lead the band and that would never work, so one had to leave. And as Francis was the one who the record company wanted, he survived and Alan didn't. And again, very badly managed. And then there were two. I remember in the 2001 C4 doc that Rick and Francis spent little time together on the bus. So its clear that they had only been work mates rather than close friends for a very long time. And yes, the FF documentary reveals all their frustrations and musical differences over where they wanted to take the Status Quo name. And Francis had the power for sure this time in preventing that continuing because by this point he is the driving force of Quo. I do believe that if Francis hadn't wanted to keep the band going, it would have ended a long time ago. But he did and so that gave Rick a platform to play alongside him. Where I do feel for Rick is that he's had to bow out for health reasons, that must be the truth of it rather than acoustic Quo, but now they've found a replacement and the audience numbers are holding, the Franchise Quo carries on regardless of any individual. And for Rick that must be hard to see the band continuing as a rock band without him. Because for me he was equally important to the original Quo sound as Francis. This is exactly what I think about the old band members, 'hate' is probably too strong a word and mainly applicable to the troubled relationship with Alan. Yesterday I read a new interview with Francis in Belgian magazine Humo (should date from their gig in Tilburg, Holland). It starts off with Rick's health. Francis: "He's recovering, but very slowly. He can walk and speak, but certainly not play the guitar, let alone go on tour. Maybe indefinitely. Although he can't accept that at all." (My translation). Oh dear, if that's true about not being able to play guitar, that sounds bad for Rick Maybe you should create a separate thread about this interview........?
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Post by steveh on Dec 2, 2016 8:27:25 GMT
Really doesn't suprise me in the slightest that the electric tour will go on next year. I think Rossi will continue till he literally drops if there's any money to be made. He won't give a fuck about the reputation of the name Status Quo as long as he makes money. Like most other people have said, drop the name Status Quo and then everything's fine, do what you want. Of course he won't though, he'd only fill small halls without the name. Cheer up though folks, it is what it is, to quote John Lennon when the Beatles broke up, "its only a band breaking up, people have still got the albums if they want to reminsce!!" And look at the back catalogue of albums and dvd's we've got with Quo!! I should really lock them all away for 2 or 3 years and then play them again so it sounds fresh again.
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Post by The Lord Flasheart on Dec 2, 2016 9:22:23 GMT
Really doesn't suprise me in the slightest that the electric tour will go on next year. I think Rossi will continue till he literally drops if there's any money to be made. He won't give a fuck about the reputation of the name Status Quo as long as he makes money. Like most other people have said, drop the name Status Quo and then everything's fine, do what you want. Of course he won't though, he'd only fill small halls without the name. Cheer up though folks, it is what it is, to quote John Lennon when the Beatles broke up, "its only a band breaking up, people have still got the albums if they want to reminsce!!" And look at the back catalogue of albums and dvd's we've got with Quo!! I should really lock them all away for 2 or 3 years and then play them again so it sounds fresh again. This is why Brian May and Roger Taylor and (whoever) go out as Queen +. Both of them did tour without the Queen name between 1993-2003 and they played to smaller gigs. Marketing is the key to it all these days, we don't all agree with it but that's the way it is. Should Rodger Daltery and Pete Townshend go out as The Who. Again they fill more seats by using the name, the non die hards know Quo as the Blonde one and the one with a Ponytail. (Even though that's been gone for years now). Even though Rick is now out of action, the non die hards accept Ritchie as a sub and wish Rick well.
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Post by freewilly on Dec 2, 2016 12:10:40 GMT
I have got to be going mad...
I have just read that it makes sense to carry on as Rossi's band, on this tour, have sold out all the venues and are playing better than ever and that the FF second tour was far worse, made a mockery of the fans and was far worse extortion...
Actually no, I take that back, I'm not going mad....There are just a lot of Harley Quinn's out there
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Post by curiousgirl on Dec 2, 2016 12:16:44 GMT
I have got to be going mad... I have just read that it makes sense to carry on as Rossi's band, on this tour, have sold out all the venues and are playing better than ever and that the FF second tour was far worse, made a mockery of the fans and was far worse extortion... Actually no, I take that back, I'm not going mad....There are just a lot of Harley Quinn's out there Where have you read this? On fb?
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Post by freewilly on Dec 2, 2016 12:18:46 GMT
I have got to be going mad... I have just read that it makes sense to carry on as Rossi's band, on this tour, have sold out all the venues and are playing better than ever and that the FF second tour was far worse, made a mockery of the fans and was far worse extortion... Actually no, I take that back, I'm not going mad....There are just a lot of Harley Quinn's out there Where have you read this? On fb? Nope. You know where
What I have read on FB though has been posts, that basically say this...
"LEAVE FRANCIS AND THE BAND ALONE!!! DON'T MOAN!!!! UNLIKE THE PAGE!! JUST LEAVE THEM ALONE!!!"
Which makes me wonder if any of us ever truly grow up..
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Post by curiousgirl on Dec 2, 2016 12:38:52 GMT
Where have you read this? On fb? Nope. You know where
What I have read on FB though has been posts, that basically say this...
"LEAVE FRANCIS AND THE BAND ALONE!!! DON'T MOAN!!!! UNLIKE THE PAGE!! JUST LEAVE THEM ALONE!!!"
Which makes me wonder if any of us ever truly grow up..
. No I don't think we do.
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Post by Mikey on Dec 2, 2016 13:07:29 GMT
Surely no-one can really be surprised at this? I'm not. I didn't believe all this 'last night of the electrics' promotional gimmick crap for one second. It's like 1984 End Of The Road all over again.
For 30 years the band have to a very large extent, been promoted as a 'double act', the cheeky chappie, lovable cockney comedy duo on (often dubious choices) of morning programs etc etc, some of the album covers have just the 2 of them on etc. So I honestly have always believed that when the time came that one of the 'double act' was no longer able to do it, they would stop. I was wrong in that belief.
Without Rick Parfitt this should now be called 'The Francis Rossi Band'
Mikey
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Post by freewilly on Dec 2, 2016 13:16:40 GMT
I hope they change the set list to one of the reunion tour one's , that should see the crowds dwindle pretty fast as the vast majority won't have a clue about Backwater/Just take me etc , especially how bad they'll be played . That should put a end to this bullshit . ITS TIME TO RETIRE THE NAME ! Can't play them two anyways.
1. Rick is not there in place of Alan to sing Backwater. 2. Just Take Me can't be done as Rick could not play it and sing it at the same time (Apparently) and Rossi's voice does not suit it.....
Which means one thing.......
The crowds will certainly pack up and go when Rhino goes to sing them...
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Post by 4th Chord on Dec 2, 2016 14:04:30 GMT
At the time it was announced in 2012, the Frantic Four reunion was billed as a one-off, never to be repeated. Then, by "overwhelming demand", there was a 2014 FF tour. I didn't read any criticism of that. Now we're told that the "Last Night of the Electrics" tour is rolling into 2017 by "overwhelming demand". So what makes this "overwhelming demand" so wrong? There most certainly was criticism of the second FF gigs being announced. The issue with the Last night of the electrics announcement is that it's the same, dishonest. I for example was more than happy to see the second FF gigs, however, doesn't mean that I wasn't annoyed at the marketing used. Although, the first gigs were 'The Return of the Frantic Four'.
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Post by freewilly on Dec 2, 2016 14:20:17 GMT
At the time it was announced in 2012, the Frantic Four reunion was billed as a one-off, never to be repeated. Then, by "overwhelming demand", there was a 2014 FF tour. I didn't read any criticism of that. Now we're told that the "Last Night of the Electrics" tour is rolling into 2017 by "overwhelming demand". So what makes this "overwhelming demand" so wrong? There most certainly was criticism of the second FF gigs being announced. The issue with the Last night of the electrics announcement is that it's the same, dishonest. I for example was more than happy to see the second FF gigs, however, doesn't mean that I wasn't annoyed at the marketing used. Although, the first gigs were 'The Return of the Frantic Four'. Exactly! Plus, the songs were played how they should be played.
I'm not having a go at Richie here but, Caroline isn't the same without Rick. Richie cannot do the intro properly and it loses it's power
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2016 14:40:40 GMT
I feel sorry for the majority of the crowds , they haven't a clue that they're not even watching STATUS QUO.
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