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Post by Victor on Dec 1, 2020 6:10:12 GMT
Looking forward to the opinions/discussions again
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Post by 4th Chord on Dec 1, 2020 10:55:29 GMT
A brave choice Victor OK. From my point of view, paper thin sound, lazy, phoned in performances, bland songs. Thought the cover looked quite cool at the time, bought it, and utterly disappointed by it. No spark or any excitement. The band's transition into a pair of old, comfortable slippers was complete, with the Val Doonican market sewn up.
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Post by twentytwenty on Dec 1, 2020 11:25:17 GMT
I like it, my version of it contains B-sides and some may be scratched, but it is in my opinion a strong record. Not as much punch in the sound as the Ain't Complaining album, but still a good mix and much better produced than the awful mixing job on the comeback album.
If you don't like the album and haven't heard if for a while, then I recommend that you give this track list a look before you give the album a chance! 1. Gone thru the Slips 2. Perfect Remedy 3. Little Dreamer 4. Throw Her a Line 5. Adress Book 6. Rotten to the Bone 7. The Power of Rock 8. The Way I Am 9. Going Down for the First Time 10. 1000 Years 11. Tommy's in Love
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2020 11:45:56 GMT
Incredibly weak album mainly down to the amount of Rossi/Frost songs that are so sugary they could send anyone into a diabetic coma, although strangely one of only three songs I like on the album is the R/F title track along with The Power of Rock and Andy's Heart on Hold. Pip really dropped the ball with this album, nowhere near up to his normal standard, though of course still clean and very sterile sounding. At least the fact it sold so poorly all over Europe forced Francis to go for a harder Quo sound on RTYD.
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Post by cammythemortonfan on Dec 1, 2020 12:02:16 GMT
Where do we start?
It seems incredible how a band can be so different live compared with some of the albums they have produced.
In 89 they were still a huge live draw with fans turning up to see a great rock band.
But Perfect Remedy is a million miles away from their live show at the time.
The first problem is the songs. There aren’t enough rock songs on there .
Throw Her a Line, A Thousand Years, Address Book ,Going Down for the First Time , had one of these been on the album amongst good rock or blues may have been forgivable, however they make up a big percentage of the album.
Add Heart On Hold to this and it’s really poor.
Man Overboard tries go give us a bit of rock .
The Power or Rock is very good.
I do like Little Dreamer and the title track.
So, nobody was really coming up with loads of great songs.
Also, the sound of the album is very weedy and tinny somehow.
Rock Til You which followed sounds better in every way. The guitars are more up front and it has more depth, for want of a more technical word.
Likewise I think that Ain’t Complaining’s sound had more depth too.
Thankfully much better was to follow two years later after this definite low .
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Post by sqcollector on Dec 1, 2020 12:04:11 GMT
I think the production is good. Sounds more 90s to me than RTYD and TW; no big snare or anything. More sober sound, in my opinion. The mix is a bit thin, yes. But it's not bad. Guitars could be slightly louder.
The more country oriented songs are meh, but they appeal to another kind of audience, at the same time. Everyone hates Tommy, but I think it sounds good, sometimes, at night, after a tiresome day. So does (and even more) 1000 Years. Not the kind of Quo from the 70s, but I don't think a band needs to do the same thing over and over again.
Little Dreamer, Perfect Remedy and The Way I Am are not bad songs. They played the first two live and I think they sound great! I like them. Man Overboard is one of those Rick's heavier songs. By the end, it develops into something really good. It also sounds a bit fatter than the rest of the songs. The part where he sings "Save my soul" reminds me too much of Roadhouse Blues.
The Power Of Rock is fantastic and they should have kept making songs like this one. It has two distinct parts, it progresses and it even has a sing-along phrase to interact with the audience, for live playing. They could still play this.
As for the B-Sides, they all sound a bit thin. Rotten To The Bone could have been heavier. Doing It All For You could have had more crunchy guitars, like they used in OTL.
As for extras from that time, Blondes Don't Lie is a bit heavier but I don't like the production very much.
The Anniversary Waltz is great! Nice mix of songs and keeps rockin' throughout.
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Post by mortified on Dec 1, 2020 14:05:35 GMT
Hmm, not great. I actually find it a bit more listenable than I did when it was released but that's not saying much. When I first heard it, I had gone down to the local record shop on the morning of release and brought it back to my flat. I'd started to give the living room a lick of paint because I was getting ready to sell the place so I chucked the CD on, picked up my brush again and carried on slapping on the marigold to the woodchip. I suddenly realised after about half an hour that I'd stopped listening! That, to me, spoke volumes about it. It was bland in the extreme. And, to me, bland is about as big an insult I can give to music. If I detest something, then at least it's generated an emotion of some kind. With Perfect Remedy there was just nothing. I was, as they say in medical circles, non-responsive. Ironically, marigold and woodchip suddenly seemed strangely apt The title track stands out a mile for me and I remember that Man Overboard was my favourite song for a while. But even that's all very AOR and a bit polished. And I can see the singalong nice-ness of Address Book. But I'm clutching at straws. The Power of Rock might have been top notch but John Farnham had already been there. So the 'chant' was too recent and felt almost like plagiarism. 1000 Years sums up what I think about most of Quo's ballads since the 70's became the 80's. Insipid. I think I remember reading much later that the production on it wasn't finished and that Pip was raging when it was released by the music company before he or the band thought it was ready. Not really sure what else they could have done with it. I suspect it will always remain in the bottom 3 of any straw poll of Quo fans when it comes to albums. It's certainly in mine. Oh, one piece of good news though. Sold the flat for a nice profit
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Post by markquo on Dec 1, 2020 15:09:31 GMT
Nothing to see here move along please Cheers
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Post by daverj40 on Dec 1, 2020 17:11:22 GMT
Not a lot to say really, was another gift given to me 'coz you liked Quo' type of thing.Found it a bit like Westlers tinned burgers really,quite bland,not much substance and leaves a funny after taste.
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Post by shallwesingsome on Dec 1, 2020 17:32:16 GMT
I can't describe how disappointed I was when I first heard this. A couple of decent tracks that would not have made it to the classic era albums, even as B-sides. even now I don't play it, but the deluxe discs 2 & 3, Wow the still had it live
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Post by Victor on Dec 1, 2020 18:45:58 GMT
A brave choice Victor
OK. From my point of view, paper thin sound, lazy, phoned in performances, bland songs. Thought the cover looked quite cool at the time, bought it, and utterly disappointed by it. No spark or any excitement. The band's transition into a pair of old, comfortable slippers was complete, with the Val Doonican market sewn up. There's not many albums left so I don't have many choices anymore lol
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Post by blagult on Dec 1, 2020 19:04:04 GMT
Only marginally better than Thirsty Work but that’s not saying much ! Loyalties were being tested to the brink by this time to start with and this album really tipped it over the edge. Couple of decent tracks and even a couple of Rossi catchy lyrical hookie type of tracks sounded ok today after many years of non play. Put that down to age now though !
At the time I Felt I had given them plenty of lives since the 1982 album and only Ain’t Complaining gave them a stay of execution as would the next one after this RTYD. But Thirsty Work to come was one life too many and would release the guillotine for many a year. I just cannot for the life of me understand how Pip Williams was given so many albums and 90% of what he turned out was absolute pish. His only saving grace was the WYW album !
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2020 19:20:25 GMT
Only marginally better than Thirsty Work but that’s not saying much ! Loyalties were being tested to the brink by this time to start with and this album really tipped it over the edge. Couple of decent tracks and even a couple of Rossi catchy lyrical hookie type of tracks sounded ok today after many years of non play. Put that down to age now though ! At the time I Felt I had given them plenty of lives since the 1982 album and only Ain’t Complaining gave them a stay of execution as would the next one after this RTYD. But Thirsty Work to come was one life too many and would release the guillotine for many a year. I just cannot for the life of me understand how Pip Williams was given so many albums and 90% of what he turned out was absolute pish. His only saving grace was the WYW album ! At least that's 10% better than Paxman, the only known so-called producer with a special tedious overdrive button fitted to his mixing desk.
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Post by blagult on Dec 1, 2020 19:35:25 GMT
Yup. The vast majority of their best albums were self produced I think everyone will agree. Albeit during the golden period.
I’m just flabbergasted they went back to him for ITAN and the next 2 ! Anyway going off topic.
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Post by matt on Dec 1, 2020 19:57:19 GMT
Ah Perfect Remedy. The first tour I saw the band on. Which really cemented my Iove of Quo as a 13 year old in a half empty Sheffield city hall.
Despite a few decent tracks and a pretty strong couple of openers the album has more clunkers and downright turds than any album before it, but sadly not after it. But that’s another story.
The album sounds like five aging coke addled farts pissing it up in the Bahamas, without even trying to be exciting or needing to care, because Quo albums always sold.
Wrong!
I do like Perfecr remedy the song. The riff is great as is the solo, and I’ve never understood the hate for the song really. The way I am is ok, Man overboard sounds like Rick doing a Rick parfitt impression (let’s write a song in A, throw in a C and a D) but is ok as I really like the lead breaks.
But what’s left. A flaccid, south Londoners impression of what country music is. Address Book, Going down for the first time! Throw her a line.... shudder. Bryan ferry s could have got royalties. Limp ballads like 1000 years that no one apart from Frames mum probably liked.
Tommy - please can some one categorise this songs genre?
Heart on hold - now my mate liked this as he said “at least it’s different”. So is diahorrea
The Power of Rock personally I think is half decent but overrated. I think the very idea of the song is corny as hell. But I understand why some love it.
The b sides are abysmal. No thing there apart from more of the same faux country bilge.
The album cover is pretty cool. But it marked the end of the band as a major recording force and began the descent into novelty mediocrity.
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