gerh
Grizzled Rocker Rollin'
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Favourite Quo Album: 'Hello' [and 'Quo Live']
Favourite other bands.: Zappa, Kansas, Rush, Deep Purple, Yes, Richard Thompson, Horslips, Rory Gallagher, Thin Lizzy, Judas Priest etc etc. [ANYONE but Kiss!]
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Post by gerh on Feb 12, 2020 11:54:42 GMT
Cheers Gerh Plenty more to come, and I will keep pushing for the Live! gig(s) from 1975, 1976 & 1979! Do you think putting the IYCSTH remix (if it should materialize) and the 1979 live recordings into one package might be a viable solution? They could call it "If You Can't Stand the Heat... Revisited" or something of that ilk... G
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gerh
Grizzled Rocker Rollin'
Posts: 2,981
Favourite Quo Album: 'Hello' [and 'Quo Live']
Favourite other bands.: Zappa, Kansas, Rush, Deep Purple, Yes, Richard Thompson, Horslips, Rory Gallagher, Thin Lizzy, Judas Priest etc etc. [ANYONE but Kiss!]
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Post by gerh on Feb 12, 2020 11:59:00 GMT
Jeez - I gotta say 'Thanks' to all you folks who have 'contacts' etc, for trying to get this stuff released - especially the older FF things. Keep up the excellent work people, some of us really do appreciate it! G Cheers Gerh Plenty more to come, and I will keep pushing for the Live! gig(s) from 1975, 1976 & 1979! Aaaaaah!! Great 'news' [?] QI... But as a wise-head said on here recently, 'we're all getting older and more creaky', [or something like that!] certainly I am!!
Hurry up fergodsake and let us hear this stuff!!! [esp. the Live gigs] G
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gav
Veteran Rocker Rollin'
Posts: 2,158
Favourite Quo Album: On The Level
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Post by gav on Feb 12, 2020 17:24:30 GMT
If You Can't Stand The Heat....Now Hear This.
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Post by longgrey on Feb 14, 2020 12:14:17 GMT
WOW! Quite some enthousiastic responses and even more and better ideas on this thread. I'm so glad I started it, 'cause I also read some posts on recordings I never knew they existed. Like Max Verstappen would say: Keep pushing! LOL ;-)
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Post by longgrey on Feb 14, 2020 12:36:12 GMT
By the way - I know it doesn't entirely fit but I think I should mention that I'll be making posts on the deluxe editions on my new blog: jesters-jetsetters.blogspot.comI realy enjoyed reading your blogs frozenhero Keep 'em coming ;-)
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Post by georgeonthelights on Feb 19, 2020 17:59:32 GMT
I'll never forget my abject disappointment on the first hearing of this album when it first came out. I could tolerate Again and Again as something of a parody, but from the first seconds of "Giving Up My Worrying" I thought..."That's not good...that's an absolutely shite filler at track 2..." Over the course of time I have grown to enjoy more of it...I love "Let Me Fly" and "Accident Prone" and one other thing I've noticed is that Rossi's solos are generally all very, very good. LLL - yes, garbage, but a cracking solo IMO. But yes, the production in general, fake instruments and non-band backing singers...no thanks.
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Post by Rocker84 on Feb 19, 2020 20:08:43 GMT
Here's some info about the album
If You Can't Stand the Heat... is the eleventh studio album by English rock band Status Quo. Recorded at Wisseloord Studios, Hilversum, Holland, and produced by Pip Williams, it was released in October 1978 and reached #3 in the UK album chart. The sleeve notes that Aphex Aural Exciter was used in the recording process, thus contributing to a more atmospheric sound than its predecessor, "Rockin' All Over The World". Unusually for a Status Quo record, a brass section, The David Katz Horns, was used, as well as a backing vocal trio: Jacquie Sullivan, Stevie Lange, and Joy Yates.
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Post by twentytwenty on Mar 2, 2020 14:52:34 GMT
I don't even know why there is a talk of a remix of this album, by all the albums from the 70s this is the one that is best produced.
That you guys don't like the songs won't change after a remix. And if they would do a remix of it and start taking away elements of the songs it has the chance to be the same anticlimactic results as the Rocking All over The World remix..
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gerh
Grizzled Rocker Rollin'
Posts: 2,981
Favourite Quo Album: 'Hello' [and 'Quo Live']
Favourite other bands.: Zappa, Kansas, Rush, Deep Purple, Yes, Richard Thompson, Horslips, Rory Gallagher, Thin Lizzy, Judas Priest etc etc. [ANYONE but Kiss!]
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Post by gerh on Mar 2, 2020 16:38:20 GMT
That you guys don't like the songs won't change after a remix. And if they would do a remix of it and start taking away elements of the songs it has the chance to be the same anticlimactic results as the Rocking All over The World remix.. Hmmm... gotta admit - some truth there! G
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Post by Quoincidence on Mar 2, 2020 18:48:30 GMT
Copies of the 24 tracks actually do exist, so a remix isn't out of the question but at the same time I don't think it would be worth it.
Removing horns, backings vocal etc will just ruin the tracks and they won't sound as full anymore, so I fully echo what since88 said.
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Post by americanquo on Mar 2, 2020 20:14:13 GMT
I don't even know why there is a talk of a remix of this album, by all the albums from the 70s this is the one that is best produced. That you guys don't like the songs won't change after a remix. And if they would do a remix of it and start taking away elements of the songs it has the chance to be the same anticlimactic results as the Rocking All over The World remix.. I love the songs. Most of them, anyway. But your characterization of the RAOTW remix as being anti-climatic is your opinion, because it sure hell ain't mine. Every song on the album was better after the remix, with one exception, Rockers Rollin'. I think the guitars were too far back in the remix. I'd pay money for a IYCSTH remix that used just the four band members.
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Post by twentytwenty on Mar 2, 2020 20:33:06 GMT
I don't even know why there is a talk of a remix of this album, by all the albums from the 70s this is the one that is best produced. That you guys don't like the songs won't change after a remix. And if they would do a remix of it and start taking away elements of the songs it has the chance to be the same anticlimactic results as the Rocking All over The World remix.. I love the songs. Most of them, anyway. But your characterization of the RAOTW remix as being anti-climatic is your opinion, because it sure hell ain't mine. Every song on the album was better after the remix, with one exception, Rockers Rollin'. I think the guitars were too far back in the remix. I'd pay money for a IYCSTH remix that used just the four band members. Of course it is, it's all subjective. I think it completely killed the album by removing shakers and stuff. It's my opinion. But to be wanting a new mix of one of the 70s best produced albums is a joke to me. Some of these songs could have been produced in the 2000s, that's how good of a job Williams did with this session.
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Post by longgrey on Mar 3, 2020 13:33:29 GMT
Everybody has their oppinions on things and that is ok! It's not a debate wether you want a remix or not, it's that John Eden (the engineer on IYCSTH) sees major improvement by doing a remix. For me, what he did on RAOTW, was an outstanding job and to see what he did on his Youtube blog was a delight to hear seperated instruments. I opened up this thread to see if it is possible. Like few people said here: nobody's forcing anyone to buy it, IF it will see the light of day. Personaly on the subject of well produced albums in the 70's: WYW is the best Pip did with Quo.
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allyp
Rocker Rollin'
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Post by allyp on Mar 3, 2020 19:41:13 GMT
Remix it maybe with extended intros a increase guitars higher in the mix etc. I think people would want the horns and backing singers filtered out but don’t think that would do any justice. This was supposed to be an experimental album and would defeat the point. I don’t think would be any good taking the keyboards out either. What I have liked about Quo over the years is some of the diversity. Sometimes I think they didn’t experiment enough at times and many fans want everything to sound like circa 1973. RAOTW remix was a welcome addition as bumped everything up in mix but the production itself wasn’t fiddled around with too much.
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Post by frozenhero on Mar 3, 2020 22:29:05 GMT
I love the songs. Most of them, anyway. But your characterization of the RAOTW remix as being anti-climatic is your opinion, because it sure hell ain't mine. Every song on the album was better after the remix, with one exception, Rockers Rollin'. I think the guitars were too far back in the remix. I'd pay money for a IYCSTH remix that used just the four band members. Of course it is, it's all subjective. I think it completely killed the album by removing shakers and stuff. It's my opinion. But to be wanting a new mix of one of the 70s best produced albums is a joke to me. Some of these songs could have been produced in the 2000s, that's how good of a job Williams did with this session. I don't see that as necessarily positive, since a lot of stuff from the 2000s is totally overproduced and barely sounds like music. And Quo simply do not need this kind of "production". Make no mistake, I'm a big fan of Alan Parsons, Tears for Fears, Rush and the like, so it's not that I'm against "big production" but I think Quo are best suited with a more basic sound, as evidenced by the follow-up WYW, or now much later, Backbone. Remix it maybe with extended intros a increase guitars higher in the mix etc. I think people would want the horns and backing singers filtered out but don’t think that would do any justice. This was supposed to be an experimental album and would defeat the point. I don’t think would be any good taking the keyboards out either. What I have liked about Quo over the years is some of the diversity. Sometimes I think they didn’t experiment enough at times and many fans want everything to sound like circa 1973. RAOTW remix was a welcome addition as bumped everything up in mix but the production itself wasn’t fiddled around with too much. But... but... nobody's taking away the original mixes! The whole point of a remix would be to give it a different slant. When they played "Oh What a Night" live, they didn't have backing vocalists with them. When they played "Let's Rock" live there were no horns (actually I missed them, but that's another story/album). If the instruments are well-recorded (and that's definitely the case here), the mix could be "thinned out" to the basis of guitar/bass/drums and occasional keyboards without it sounding bad, as long as everything is kept in the same sonic space. Heck, even a simple re-run of the original mix without the Aphex Aural Exciter would be worth listening to, I think! Longer intros (Accident Prone) and outros would definitely be another selling point. By the way - I know it doesn't entirely fit but I think I should mention that I'll be making posts on the deluxe editions on my new blog: jesters-jetsetters.blogspot.comI realy enjoyed reading your blogs frozenhero Keep 'em coming ;-) Thanks. I have one on Backbone still waiting for the right moment, one for a release that may happen later this year and some other non-Quo related stuff...
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