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Post by ant on Feb 10, 2020 17:12:16 GMT
I too listened again to this album as a result of this thrad. Honourable shout out to Sir Francis of Rossi for the solos - I think they are great on this album.
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Post by Quoincidence on Feb 10, 2020 17:18:38 GMT
I too listened again to this album as a result of this thread. Honourable shout out to Sir Francis of Rossi for the solos - I think they are great on this album. His solo'ing improved massively once the band started working with Pip, until he became lazy and Pip ended up just playing them. Long Legged Linda and Accident Prone possibly the best solo's on the album. Honorable mention is Like A Good Girl. I'll have to listen to the album again. It's been a while
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Post by fretbuzzzzz on Feb 10, 2020 18:36:35 GMT
I too listened again to this album as a result of this thrad. Honourable shout out to Sir Francis of Rossi for the solos - I think they are great on this album. As with other aspects of this album, the solos were another change. At the time I wasn't sure about them as sounded more processed than we had come to expect from Rossi. Though I think (would need to check this) John E had put Rossi's guitar straight/direct into the recording desk which contributed to the unusual sound. In the way that the bass guitar is more likely to be recorded direct to the board. Any other band and I wouldn't have thought too much about things but it was quite a bold move with Quo and a swing away from familiar Rossi solo territory. Can't say I enjoy the solos anymore than the seemingly more Gung Ho and non fussy sounding solos of the earlier 70s albums but definitely proof if needed that Rossi could solo with them best of them when he put his mind to it.
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Post by dublinquo on Feb 10, 2020 19:19:23 GMT
I disagree with you regarding Never Too Late, I'd be very interested to hear a remixed version of that album. There is a remix of one track off NTL that someone somewhere made: -
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Post by Quoincidence on Feb 10, 2020 19:22:57 GMT
I disagree with you regarding Never Too Late, I'd be very interested to hear a remixed version of that album. There is a remix of one track off NTL that someone somewhere made: - That's 2 Alt. takes that leaked which have been layered on top of one another.
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Post by QuocaQuola1 on Feb 10, 2020 20:33:35 GMT
Absolutely no need for a remix in my opinion. One of the things I feel gets overlooked massively in Quo’s history is their ability to change sound but not actually change so to speak (at least up until 88ish). The sound of their albums all tended to follow specific trends in terms of what was happening in the music world, especially as the progression of pop music really accelerated in the mid 70s onwards. The likes of Rockin’ All Over The World as an album really grasps on to the more slick pop stuff happening around the time (Eagles, Gerry Rafferty, Doobies, Chicago), a more breezy sound which was the big thing in the charts around 76-78 (very evident in songs like For You, the intro to Hard Time, Baby Boy, etc) Then on to IYCSTH, taking on the disco trend sonically as well as musically with the likes of Accident Prone. Again, the arrangement was more than just Quo’s usual boundary of guitars, kit and bass, incorporating a broader soundscape with the horns, Hammond on Someone Show Me Home, backing vocals. All this again coming from disco and the soft yacht rock type stuff ever present around the time. It’s even present in Francis playing, almost completely different to any other albums on RAOTW and IYCSTH, far more melodic. Whatever You Want is what I’d consider their classic sound but with the slickest production over anything before RAOTW. Not as clunky in places as the likes of Piledriver - Blue For You. Just Supposin’/ Never Too Late are obviously Quo, you know it’s Quo, but the amazing thing is how in with the times both songs sound, you could pinpoint them being records from anywhere between 79-83 with the new wave style production. Everything’s crisp but in a low-fidelity sort of way with Just Supposin in that it has the rawness of the early albums but you can really hear the almost dull nature of the sound a lot of the early new wave records had (Flock Of Seagulls, Talking Heads, same small studio sound) Never Too Late really goes to town with bringing in synth, I’d imagine influenced by the new romantic and synthpop oriented stuff storming the charts around the time (Mountain Lady being synth-led), even ska with Falling In Falling out.
I’d go on with comparing Back To Back to Dexy’s Midnight Runners and all that but I think I’ve made the point, always loved how they adapted the production sound on each of their albums from the mid 70s to the late 80s to the in-thing around what was happening in the music world.
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Post by sqcollector on Feb 10, 2020 20:41:30 GMT
There is a remix of one track off NTL that someone somewhere made: - videoThat's 2 Alt. takes that leaked which have been layered on top of one another. I wonder why such mixes never made it to the Deluxe, if they are official.
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Post by Quoincidence on Feb 10, 2020 21:13:18 GMT
That's 2 Alt. takes that leaked which have been layered on top of one another. I wonder why such mixes never made it to the Deluxe, if they are official. I think frozenhero did the tracklistings for that batch; Blue For You, Just Supposin' & Never Too Late. He won't have been aware of Alt. Mixes as far as I know, and I didn't come into the mix until late 2017, around the time of the Live At The N.E.C. Deluxe release. There's also Alt. Mixes for Riverside, Something 'Bout You Baby I Like and possibly an unreleased track or 2 from those sessions. I'd have to go back and check. I think there's also a copy of Rock n' Roll that runs out to a long echo
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Post by sqcollector on Feb 10, 2020 23:03:03 GMT
I think frozenhero did the tracklistings for that batch; Blue For You, Just Supposin' & Never Too Late. He won't have been aware of Alt. Mixes as far as I know, and I didn't come into the mix until late 2017, around the time of the Live At The N.E.C. Deluxe release. There's also Alt. Mixes for Riverside, Something 'Bout You Baby I Like and possibly an unreleased track or 2 from those sessions. I'd have to go back and check. I think there's also a copy of Rock n' Roll that runs out to a long echo All little treasures waiting to see the sunlight... Hoping to see them on some (soon to be released, please) Quo collection/compilation/anthology.
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Post by fretbuzzzzz on Feb 11, 2020 0:35:03 GMT
Absolutely no need for a remix in my opinion. One of the things I feel gets overlooked massively in Quo’s history is their ability to change sound but not actually change so to speak (at least up until 88ish). The sound of their albums all tended to follow specific trends in terms of what was happening in the music world, especially as the progression of pop music really accelerated in the mid 70s onwards. The likes of Rockin’ All Over The World as an album really grasps on to the more slick pop stuff happening around the time (Eagles, Gerry Rafferty, Doobies, Chicago), a more breezy sound which was the big thing in the charts around 76-78 (very evident in songs like For You, the intro to Hard Time, Baby Boy, etc) Then on to IYCSTH, taking on the disco trend sonically as well as musically with the likes of Accident Prone. Again, the arrangement was more than just Quo’s usual boundary of guitars, kit and bass, incorporating a broader soundscape with the horns, Hammond on Someone Show Me Home, backing vocals. All this again coming from disco and the soft yacht rock type stuff ever present around the time. It’s even present in Francis playing, almost completely different to any other albums on RAOTW and IYCSTH, far more melodic. Whatever You Want is what I’d consider their classic sound but with the slickest production over anything before RAOTW. Not as clunky in places as the likes of Piledriver - Blue For You. Just Supposin’/ Never Too Late are obviously Quo, you know it’s Quo, but the amazing thing is how in with the times both songs sound, you could pinpoint them being records from anywhere between 79-83 with the new wave style production. Everything’s crisp but in a low-fidelity sort of way with Just Supposin in that it has the rawness of the early albums but you can really hear the almost dull nature of the sound a lot of the early new wave records had (Flock Of Seagulls, Talking Heads, same small studio sound) Never Too Late really goes to town with bringing in synth, I’d imagine influenced by the new romantic and synthpop oriented stuff storming the charts around the time (Mountain Lady being synth-led), even ska with Falling In Falling out. I’d go on with comparing Back To Back to Dexy’s Midnight Runners and all that but I think I’ve made the point, always loved how they adapted the production sound on each of their albums from the mid 70s to the late 80s to the in-thing around what was happening in the music world. Some really good points there. I'm sure the band had an eye on the changing trends and though they always maintained that they just carried on regardless, the truth is that they were aware of upcoming bands and studio trends/gadgets. Francis, especially, used to read the Music rags to see who was getting it in the neck that week and hoping it wasn't going to be Quo. Suspect a bit of insecurity creeping in and needing to try and stay one step ahead. The studios were changing as the years went on. Huge difference between the available technology in the 60s studios compared to the late 70s studio set ups. Engineers such as Damon Lyon Shaw were clearly very astute and able but also working within the confines of the studio technology of the times and why some recordings sound they way they do by default rather than by experimental design. George Martin being an exception but he had the luxury of the Abbey studios and able to experiment much more with a band such as The Beatles than an engineer/producer would have with a band like Quo. An album that springs to mind where Quo were clearly trying to be relevant with the current scene had been 'Ain't Complaining' album. The title track for starters! I'm fairly sure it has been said either by Rick or Pip that Rick had an eye on U2 with his 'One For The Money' (mixed results?!) On the NTL album Rick's 'Falling In Falling Out' has that strange combination of a nod towards Nutbush City Limits and a a few bars of The Police! An example of Quo using the trendy studio gadgets of the day had been with the Aphex Exciter on IYCSTH. They also used the Aphex on the Rockin' All Over The World album. Not sure about the Dexy's comparison with B2B particularly but Quo were definitely not a band who just steam rollered any changes or trends. They were caught up in some of it and their sound changed as the studios, equipment and available gadgets changed.
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Post by gerh on Feb 11, 2020 13:55:23 GMT
That's 2 Alt. takes that leaked which have been layered on top of one another. Never knew such an Alt. take thing existed - it was great, always was a brilliant song tho'! Loved it [Probably pointless to say but...] More of this kinda thing please!! G
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Post by Dark on Feb 11, 2020 15:08:48 GMT
With IYCSTH, it is the one album I’ve read interviews with Rossi & Parfitt where they have talked about following a trend, and going for what they described as a, “pea-soup,” drum sound. Which is something, if they were to do a remix and deal with that, I think it would vastly improve the album, make it a bit harder hitting, give the songs a more solid base.
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Post by Quoincidence on Feb 11, 2020 15:47:37 GMT
That's 2 Alt. takes that leaked which have been layered on top of one another. Never knew such an Alt. take thing existed - it was great, always was a brilliant song tho'! Loved it [Probably pointless to say but...] More of this kinda thing please!! G They could always do a From The Sessions of... sort of release and have a number of Alt Mixes throughout the years. A few leaked years back. The acoustic track for SBYBIL, vocal outtakes for Falling In, Falling Out and various bits. I can guarantee the person that leaked those no longer has a job When I share unreleased bits, I only post snippets to youtube, never full things. There's also a demo of Rock n Roll which hasn't been released and better copies of demos that have popped up on recent deluxe editions which were from cassette copies that Bob Young supplied, which exist on master reels that the band left at Trend Studios, which are yet to be released.
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Post by sqcollector on Feb 11, 2020 16:52:09 GMT
They could always do a From The Sessions of... sort of release and have a number of Alt Mixes throughout the years. A few leaked years back. The acoustic track for SBYBIL, vocal outtakes for Falling In, Falling Out and various bits. I can guarantee the person that leaked those no longer has a job When I share unreleased bits, I only post snippets to youtube, never full things. Theres also a demo of Rock n Roll which hasn't been released and really good quality copies of demos that have been released straight from Master Reels the band left at Trend Studios Would like to see that! Castle has released lots of alt mixes/versions/takes from the earlier Quo material. Universal could just throw a 2+CD collection just with these mixes and demos, instead of releasing bits at the time. And I see the 2017 Deluxes could have had more of this... Especially Just Supposin'... Was a bit "empty".
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Post by QuocaQuola1 on Feb 11, 2020 18:14:30 GMT
I wonder why such mixes never made it to the Deluxe, if they are official. I think frozenhero did the tracklistings for that batch; Blue For You, Just Supposin' & Never Too Late. He won't have been aware of Alt. Mixes as far as I know, and I didn't come into the mix until late 2017, around the time of the Live At The N.E.C. Deluxe release. There's also Alt. Mixes for Riverside, Something 'Bout You Baby I Like and possibly an unreleased track or 2 from those sessions. I'd have to go back and check. I think there's also a copy of Rock n' Roll that runs out to a long echo Any possibility of the alternative versions of Riverside having John on them or was he completely out by the time they came to record it?
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