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Post by curiousgirl on Jan 27, 2017 19:27:33 GMT
Well whoppa I am sure he is not losing a wink of sleep over the fact you dont like him. Quo's audience have changed massively. They still get a decent crowd by what I saw at Newcastle. He is not remotely bothered about a few people who still wished they could make 12 minute tracks like they did in the 70's. Its gone, passed, finished ! And on all the reporting I saw on the main media channels on Ricks passing was as follows - More hits than any other band. Opened live aid. Received OBE's Been going for 50 years. Rick led a wild Rock star lifestyle etc... That's it. No one is interested in the legacy of ' they were a HARD Rock band in the 70's ' . Doesn't mean a jot to the population of music buyers ! Now where did I say that I believed that? And... if you read my thing again...you'll see that my views changed after the reunions.... If he sleeps tonight? I couldn't care less. I sleep very well thank you. But it is a sad thing when a hero of some 40 years turns into a SOMOGAG.... in my opinion. Yep, hit me that way too Whoppa after the reunion tours. I think partly because they rekindled that old love again. I do feel sad too. But then, I suppose I shouldn't have put him on a pedestal. Though I was young and impressionable at the time.
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Post by viking55 on Jan 27, 2017 20:24:14 GMT
Yep Curious. The reason for your final comments are because he was the main man, the crowd pleaser, lead guitarist, had the banter with the crowd, the better more recognised voice and with Bob young he happened to write the better songs. No one can deny that ! Although i suspect i can guess those who will disagree ! Opinions of him might have changed for a small minority who think he has destroyed the legacy BUT it was a legacy he was was THE major player in creating in the first place. Without him there wouldn't have been a legacy to argue about ! Look no one is going to change their minds on their personal beliefs so.... with no disrespect to Rick for saying this, for me Francis was the MAIN man so for any decisions he has made that I don't agree with I absolutely forgive him !
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Post by Gaz on Jan 27, 2017 20:39:02 GMT
I'm sure some of these dates were known about before hand but not officially announced yet of when tickets would go on sale. could be wrong The Aquostic dates (with the exception of York and Norwich) were announced BEFORE Rick died, he was never going to be playing on any of them as it had been announced he was stopping live work with the band (you may remember the Sky TV interview that was on here).
I had an email from York Barbican BEFORE Christmas for their date (I'm on their mailing list) so that one was booked (though not officially announced on the Quo site) before Rick died, it's logical to assume Norwich was already booked as well.
So, all that has been announced here is dates that were already in the diary/known about - nothing new.
Whilst I can understand those saying the band shouldn't carry on now Rick has died, from a business point of view (and legal point of view) it would be very difficult for them to justify cancelling these dates due to the death of a band member who wasn't scheduled to be playing at them.
I think (and hope) that apart from the tribute concert there won't be any 'new' gigs announced for a long time, if ever again.
Hey billy, I recall a post,from last year, where you said a mate of yours who has very close connections to Quo told you that they had a very big announcement, which would take place in 2017, to make which we, on here, will get excited about... but you couldn't reveal just yet as you wouldn't want your mate to cop any flak from management. Could you tell us now what that special announcement was about?
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Post by Detroit on Jan 27, 2017 20:50:11 GMT
Yep Curious. The reason for your final comments are because he was the main man, the crowd pleaser, lead guitarist, had the banter with the crowd, the better more recognised voice and with Bob young he happened to write the better songs.No one can deny that ! Although i suspect i can guess those who will disagree ! Opinions of him might have changed for a small minority who think he has destroyed the legacy BUT it was a legacy he was was THE major player in creating in the first place. Without him there wouldn't have been a legacy to argue about ! Look no one is going to change their minds on their personal beliefs so.... with no disrespect to Rick for saying this, for me Francis was the MAIN man so for any decisions he has made that I don't agree with I absolutely forgive him ! Correct, better song writer with Bob than with Frost by a very long mark. In fact there is no song I listen to with those 2 penning. But that's the way he always wrote, with someone. In all these years he has only written 2 on his own.
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Post by curiousgirl on Jan 27, 2017 21:39:51 GMT
Yep Curious. The reason for your final comments are because he was the main man, the crowd pleaser, lead guitarist, had the banter with the crowd, the better more recognised voice and with Bob young he happened to write the better songs. No one can deny that ! Although i suspect i can guess those who will disagree ! Opinions of him might have changed for a small minority who think he has destroyed the legacy BUT it was a legacy he was was THE major player in creating in the first place. Without him there wouldn't have been a legacy to argue about ! Look no one is going to change their minds on their personal beliefs so.... with no disrespect to Rick for saying this, for me Francis was the MAIN man so for any decisions he has made that I don't agree with I absolutely forgive him ! Bit of mind reading going on there Viking about my last comment. I grew about a mile away from where Francis,Alan and John grew up. Quite a few years later, I hasten to add. For me it was always the 4 of them. I even dated a guy who liked John when I was 15 for a short while. But I think I simply fancied Francis more in those days. As I say, I was young and impressionable.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2017 22:20:58 GMT
Well whoppa I am sure he is not losing a wink of sleep over the fact you dont like him. Quo's audience have changed massively. They still get a decent crowd by what I saw at Newcastle. He is not remotely bothered about a few people who still wished they could make 12 minute tracks like they did in the 70's. Its gone, passed, finished ! And on all the reporting I saw on the main media channels on Ricks passing was as follows - More hits than any other band. Opened live aid. Received OBE's Been going for 50 years. Rick led a wild Rock star lifestyle etc... That's it. No one is interested in the legacy of ' they were a HARD Rock band in the 70's ' . Doesn't mean a jot to the population of music buyers ! Are u for real ?? there's 2 types of QUO fan and I'm guessing I know which one you are ...no offence mind .
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Post by viking55 on Jan 27, 2017 23:05:08 GMT
Ok piledriver, great album by the way, it was meant as a whole statement and I agree there are a few Rossi bashers and a few other hard core fans interested. But it was meant to portray the record buying public of the UK who don't give a toss that they were a hard rock band in the 70s who played Roadhouse Blues or 45 hundred times live ! Or that they once upon a time had a proper mosh pit ! Believe it or not I am FF and thankfully was there 1st time around and have great memories of those gigs. I just don't get why people get worked up into such a frenzy over it and bash the main guy who gave them it.
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Post by Whoppa Choppa on Jan 27, 2017 23:41:33 GMT
No frenzy at all. Just disappointment. And here I am allowed to express that. The frenzy mostly comes from the self-appointed defenders... And tafkar was not alone in creating that magic. Very noticeable during the reunion... Yes he was definitely a part of it but could not have done it on his own, imo. The Quo is a wide church. We have to learn and to live with that....
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Post by markquo on Jan 28, 2017 8:18:29 GMT
Ok piledriver, great album by the way, it was meant as a whole statement and I agree there are a few Rossi bashers and a few other hard core fans interested. But it was meant to portray the record buying public of the UK who don't give a toss that they were a hard rock band in the 70s who played Roadhouse Blues or 45 hundred times live ! Or that they once upon a time had a proper mosh pit ! Believe it or not I am FF and thankfully was there 1st time around and have great memories of those gigs. I just don't get why people get worked up into such a frenzy over it and bash the main guy who gave them it. What do you mean the main guy who gave them it? Quo was the equal sum of 4 parts in those days I don't see one more important than the other. That's what gave us those magical albums and gigs. It's only been in the past 30 years that Rossi has taken full control once Alan was ousted from his own band and rossi could assume full leadership Cheers
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Post by viking55 on Jan 28, 2017 10:22:43 GMT
Ok Mark. I'll meet you 90% on that one. Yes they all played their part. Absolutely true and agree. Best Quo line up live. No arguments from me ! I've been a reader of the board since its re-establishment after the old one closed. And I just needed to rejoin to get my thoughts and opinions off my chest. I'm happy I've done that so thanks to admin for letting me. Its healthy we all should be able to debate without it getting personal. Hope no one has been offended as non was meant. We all just have our own thoughts and opinions. In the main its been great being a Quo fan for us all whatever stages of their career interests us. That's why we are here. No more from me on this. Just to say it was 1982 And then ' Going down town tonight ' that made me sell my impressive collection and loose Quo for quite a few years.....lol. Have a great weekend everyone !
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2017 10:28:14 GMT
Will STATUS QUO continue once Rossi can't ? and more so will the droves of fans keep going ? , and I'm not talking about the cardigan brigade who are happy to sit through the entire show . Yes I used the word SHOW.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2017 10:33:30 GMT
Ok Mark. I'll meet you 90% on that one. Yes they all played their part. Absolutely true and agree. Best Quo line up live. No arguments from me ! I've been a reader of the board since its re-establishment after the old one closed. And I just needed to rejoin to get my thoughts and opinions off my chest. I'm happy I've done that so thanks to admin for letting me. Its healthy we all should be able to debate without it getting personal. Hope no one has been offended as non was meant. We all just have our own thoughts and opinions. In the main its been great being a Quo fan for us all whatever stages of their career interests us. That's why we are here. No more from me on this. Just to say it was 1982 And then ' Going down town tonight ' that made me sell my impressive collection and loose Quo for quite a few years.....lol.Have a great weekend everyone ! All is forgiven ! many of us gave up then and the new batch of fans arrived , the ones that knew nothing of 4500/Daughter/little lady etc etc .
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Post by viking55 on Jan 28, 2017 10:54:01 GMT
Who knows if it will carry on. I think these 2017 booked gigs will make Francis mind up for sure. I'm 70% of the opinion if he can afford it hell call it a day on Quo. If Quo continue I think they will still get bums on seats but i think this year REO certainly helped big style ! Before Newcastle this year and excluding the FF gig I'd never seen them live for about 10 years. So I went not really expecting much to be honest, But I think because of the break I thoroughly enjoyed it. Ritchie is no Rick but he done a great job. Francis was on great form. Sadly no one could carry off Ricks voice. Some of those vocals were not up to scratch. But to be fair ricks voice was starting to fail but it was still a miss not seeing him come up to the mic ! I was adamant that FF gig was to be my last but I'm glad I changed my mind. I can understand all those who followed them on every tour giving up though !
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2017 12:04:53 GMT
Well we can all agree to disagree. Its not surprising as Quos existence has certainly been long and colourful to say the least hence the differing opinions ! I guess we will all find out what happens after the booked gigs. But if Rossi does knock it on the head then I hope the personal abuse some have heaped on him stops. Not just on this message board on FB as well ! Remember he sweat blood as well as the others to give us those Fab albums and tours in the 70s, whatever you think of the 80s onward Quo. He doesn't deserve abuse, but at the other end of the scale there isn't merit to excess sycophancy also. I should know this because of the excess simpering and fawning and "can do no wrong-isms" I used to be prone to before the blinkers were obligingly removed.
The FF reunions were my full catalyst, and while my appreciation of modern Quo has dwindled disappointingly fast since this time, I am glad that at least I gained better clarity of perspective that no-one, whether that be Francis or anyone else, walks on water.
Its all academic now with the sadness of Ricks loss, but it has been Francis alone who has become desensitised and aloof to what it was that made him and his bandmates famous and successful in the first place. He is also ambivalent and out of touch with the long standing fan base that created dare I use the phrase "special relationship" that made a Quo gig so intensely unique - to a level that for a period at their peak was an untouchable experience in rock music.
Those fans were eating out of his, and the hands of the other three, at the reunions. Its such a shame that the other three "got it" but he didn't.
That isn't abuse, its critical opinion as an expression of disappointment.
Time might have moved on a long way, and of course priorities change - but surely one should never lose sight of what and who it was that put them on life's road. Not everyone is lucky enough to have such opportunities and live the vibrant and expansive lives that come with them to become so detached from original concept and conception.
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Post by Whoppa Choppa on Jan 28, 2017 12:51:15 GMT
The way you have with words, @catlady ! quorp
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