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Post by freewilly on Dec 5, 2016 17:05:58 GMT
Oh but can you back that up? Have you evidence of Porter and Rossi filling out the Royalty forms, straight after a gig? Nah, didn't think so Okay, lets go with your logic here... Can you prove they haven't?? No, didn't think so Seriously mate, i don't know what the bee in your bonnet is all about. But you're literally finding excuses to be angry and that isn't helpful. Do you honestly think Parfitt, in whatever financial state he's in, wouldn't want to still get paid his Royalties? Also, do you really believe that filling out the ASCAP/BMI or whatever forms for such things would be filled out by Porter or Rossi.. i'm sure they'd have a designated person to do such things. I'm pretty certain it's not just Rossi and Porter that run every aspect of Quo. You do realise pretty much no one gets paid for when someone covers their songs at a gig right? I mean, by law, they should but, it almost never happens. Tons of bands have gotten away with it over the years
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Post by freewilly on Dec 5, 2016 17:06:45 GMT
Oh but can you back that up? Have you evidence of Porter and Rossi filling out the Royalty forms, straight after a gig? Nah, didn't think so While your question is certainly valid I could ask you if you have evidence that they didn't fill out the forms Nope. But, going by other bands' track records, I'd be astounded if they did fill them out
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2016 17:13:42 GMT
Oh but can you back that up? Have you evidence of Porter and Rossi filling out the Royalty forms, straight after a gig? Nah, didn't think so Okay, lets go with your logic here... Can you prove they haven't?? No, didn't think so That's him told. Still defending Porter I see.
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Post by Victor on Dec 5, 2016 17:19:08 GMT
While your question is certainly valid I could ask you if you have evidence that they didn't fill out the forms Nope. But, going by other bands' track records, I'd be astounded if they did fill them out Ok fair enough
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2016 18:10:25 GMT
Okay, lets go with your logic here... Can you prove they haven't?? No, didn't think so Seriously mate, i don't know what the bee in your bonnet is all about. But you're literally finding excuses to be angry and that isn't helpful. Do you honestly think Parfitt, in whatever financial state he's in, wouldn't want to still get paid his Royalties? Also, do you really believe that filling out the ASCAP/BMI or whatever forms for such things would be filled out by Porter or Rossi.. i'm sure they'd have a designated person to do such things. I'm pretty certain it's not just Rossi and Porter that run every aspect of Quo. You do realise pretty much no one gets paid for when someone covers their songs at a gig right? I mean, by law, they should but, it almost never happens. Tons of bands have gotten away with it over the years I can see where you're going with that, but (and regardless of what you, I or anyone else thinks) it's still Status Quo and if they are performing Status Quo songs. Regardless of who is performing it. The writers of said songs will be due royalties.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2016 18:16:47 GMT
Okay, lets go with your logic here... Can you prove they haven't?? No, didn't think so That's him told. Still defending Porter I see. Still defending Porter?? I'm not defending him, I'm merely pointing out how freewilly's path of questioning can also be asked from the other side of the coin...
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Post by freewilly on Dec 5, 2016 18:25:51 GMT
You do realise pretty much no one gets paid for when someone covers their songs at a gig right? I mean, by law, they should but, it almost never happens. Tons of bands have gotten away with it over the years I can see where you're going with that, but (and regardless of what you, I or anyone else thinks) it's still Status Quo and if they are performing Status Quo songs. Regardless of who is performing it. The writers of said songs will be due royalties. Being due them doesn't mean they get them though. It's like wedding bands and cover bands...They don't fill out those royalty forms at all. I also can't see Quo filling out forms, especially the way they were managed and drugged up back in the day, for royalties owed to Jim Morrisson and John Fogerty Also, I know that venues are supposed to have licences for this sort of thing. Big ones, not small venues like hotels and clubs and bars etc
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2016 18:54:06 GMT
I can see where you're going with that, but (and regardless of what you, I or anyone else thinks) it's still Status Quo and if they are performing Status Quo songs. Regardless of who is performing it. The writers of said songs will be due royalties. Being due them doesn't mean they get them though. It's like wedding bands and cover bands...They don't fill out those royalty forms at all. I also can't see Quo filling out forms, especially the way they were managed and drugged up back in the day, for royalties owed to Jim Morrisson and John Fogerty Also, I know that venues are supposed to have licences for this sort of thing. Big ones, not small venues like hotels and clubs and bars etc These things can be done online as well. Im sure alot of these things are covered when the tours are booked for any artists...I'm sure the writers of the songs would want to be paid. There is a bit of a blurred line with cover sobgs. But in most cases, the company that pays out the royalties try to pay the writers of songs covered in a setlist, (This of course will be different for a wedding band) I've been looking online at royalties for live performance.
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Post by jaynieeee on Dec 5, 2016 21:01:04 GMT
Going to throw a cat in amongst the pigeons. Francis has said for a while that he wanted to devote more time to other projects. Why aren't they touring as Francis Rossi Band (other than contracts that will already have been signed)? A Francis Rossi Band would have seen any profits* from it go to Francis (and other members of "his" band) and not into the coffers of Status Quo Limited - so who would suffer? Yes, Francis wasted a lot of money, lost some on a business deal (happy to be corrected on that) and had a large family to look after. However, he has had a stable private life (by all accounts) for a long time, doesn't have an overly extravagant lifestyle, so is likely OK money wise, and, some solo and producing work along with Quo royalties and he would likely be OK. News reports suggest that another member of Status Quo Limited may not have that level of financial (and home) comfort. At the time of the FF tours, there was word of them giving Alan/John a financial boost, that may or may not have been the case, although all four likely got a "boost". So taking Quo out on an "extended" electric tour (which I think most of us would agree is more likely to pull people in than an acoustic one), is there someone, who isn't on the tour, who could benefit? Maybe, the insecure little show off, isn't quite as cold hearted as people think. *yes, I know likely smaller crowds/profits Rick won't play any gigs on this tour. Rick is not employed on this tour. Francis shafted Alan, his lifetime friend, not once but twice....Not a hope in hell is Rick getting any money from this Freewilly I didn't suggest that Rick would "paid" as a member of the band. Profits from the tour will "belong" to Status Quo Limited, which will paid out to SHAREHOLDERS of Status Quo Limited (not all at once but over time and then if it is dissolved). Comparing what happened to Alan and John (band members) with present situation (a limited company with shareholders) is not comparing like for like.
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Post by twentytwenty on Dec 5, 2016 22:42:26 GMT
I wish they're coming to Sweden for this extension of the tour. It's also a perfect opportunity for them to add some of Francis's songs to the set!
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Post by paul70 on Dec 6, 2016 4:42:55 GMT
Okay, lets go with your logic here... Can you prove they haven't?? No, didn't think so Seriously mate, i don't know what the bee in your bonnet is all about. But you're literally finding excuses to be angry and that isn't helpful. Do you honestly think Parfitt, in whatever financial state he's in, wouldn't want to still get paid his Royalties? Also, do you really believe that filling out the ASCAP/BMI or whatever forms for such things would be filled out by Porter or Rossi.. i'm sure they'd have a designated person to do such things. I'm pretty certain it's not just Rossi and Porter that run every aspect of Quo. You do realise pretty much no one gets paid for when someone covers their songs at a gig right? I mean, by law, they should but, it almost never happens. Tons of bands have gotten away with it over the years Jesus, organization like Quo. , their management stuff' chinese lady, :-) really do those the paperwork, reports from the gig songs etc. Thats not a hobby weekender gang in that bizzworld. radio,tv songs are under ASCAP also.. RP gets royalties money, sure.
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Post by dennis on Dec 6, 2016 14:05:11 GMT
I wish they're coming to Sweden for this extension of the tour. It's also a perfect opportunity for them to add some of Francis's songs to the set! But then it wouldn't really be Quo! ...... er ......
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Post by markquo on Dec 6, 2016 14:24:01 GMT
I wish they're coming to Sweden for this extension of the tour. It's also a perfect opportunity for them to add some of Francis's songs to the set! What like address book and tommys in love ? Cheers
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2016 15:34:12 GMT
I wish they're coming to Sweden for this extension of the tour. It's also a perfect opportunity for them to add some of Francis's songs to the set! Like this one? Interesting choice of drummer and bassist though. I always felt so sorry for Pete, loyally putting himself through this shite only to be given the heave-ho anyway in favour of Shirley Temple.
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Post by dennis on Dec 6, 2016 16:39:23 GMT
Ah, Francis & Bernie as The Kalin Twins!
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