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Post by azza200 on Mar 27, 2019 23:10:04 GMT
Is that what he actually said?
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Post by MrWaistcoat on Mar 27, 2019 23:10:08 GMT
Understandable comments all round but of course we’ve only heard one side of the story
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Post by fretbuzzzzz on Mar 27, 2019 23:46:16 GMT
Understandable comments all round but of course we’ve only heard one side of the story I imagine there must have been a good deal of frustration going on within Alan, in terms of Francis not playing ball. It was all there to see how successful the reunions had been in terms of audience reactions and presumably Alan (I believe John, Rick and Bob also) felt there was some mileage still to be had after the reunions even if only an EP or an album. Frustrations from the past which then boil over into the present. In a sense it is Rossi's ball and that must be very frustrating for somebody in Alan's position. The problem with these mag interviews is they need a bit of interpreting and context and we are just getting the snippets that, in this case, Francis wanted us to hear/read.
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Post by fretbuzzzzz on Mar 28, 2019 11:37:43 GMT
... Francis is addicted to the buzz of something new and the current band with Richie Malone has given him his fix and once again he has something to kick against and a reason for him to raise his game.
How true this is and how many times it has come up during their career ... it must make other people around the band feel insecure at times. He's always been ambivalent about Alan too - I got the impression during the Reunion years that it was Alan's mum he really liked, but then I think that may just be another slant on the story.
I wonder at what point the secret got out and Alan and John hearing about Francis and Rick going off to rehearsals with Kenney Jones on drums. Rick played bass. Francis knew Kenney and Steve Marriott, not just from gigging with the Small Faces, but when they were younger and they had been regulars buying ice cream from his dad's ice cream van! Would have changed some history if it had worked out. Did Alan perhaps become more awkward and domineering as a by-product of feeling something was wrong within 'his' band or that he wasn't good enough and insecurity setting in? Don't usually associate lack of confidence with Alan but maybe there was some of that going on and why he could come across as being controlling, perhaps?
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Post by curiousgirl on Mar 28, 2019 11:54:15 GMT
I'm not posting this interview to be anti-Alan as I've missed his musical presence in the band as much as many here have. But looking at this interview from 1974 makes me wonder.... and I suspect Alan was always a dominant voice and that became harder to deal with once the others found their own confidence, possible. Who really knows, we weren't there. But thought I'd share this anyway. It always surprised me how quiet Francis and Rick are in this.
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Post by fretbuzzzzz on Mar 28, 2019 13:02:44 GMT
I'm not posting this interview to be anti-Alan as I've missed his musical presence in the band as much as many here have. But looking at this interview from 1974 makes me wonder.... and I suspect Alan was always a dominant voice and that became harder to deal with once the others found their own confidence, possible. Who really knows, we weren't there. But thought I'd share this anyway. It always surprised me how quiet Francis and Rick are in this. Thanks for posting. Perhaps there had been a merry-go-round of interviews and it was Alan who picked up the baton with this one? They all seem very laid back and chilled! Francis looked almost asleep at one point and suddenly woke up! In Rossi's new book there is a picture of the 4 of them sat together and it says it's an interview from the 70s and it is clear Francis was in a talkative mood. The caption reads: 'I seem to be the only one talking. Funny that...' In the book, John's expression in the photo is almost identical to his expression near the end of the youtube clip when he looks into the camera!
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Post by curiousgirl on Mar 28, 2019 13:43:54 GMT
Thanks fretbuzzzzz. You make a fair point. I've yet to read the book. Glad that it is being enjoyed by fans here.
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Post by blagult on Mar 28, 2019 14:31:11 GMT
Prior to Down Down interviews were very much a shared thing. Apart from gigs where Francis was always the Spokesperson with the audience. After Down Down the Media started to lean toward Francis for interviews. Don’t know why but I guess he was singing all the Singles to that point and the Communicator live so it was a natural progressive thing as far as the media were concerned. It’s just the way it happened.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2019 18:34:14 GMT
Not that I’m guitar-obsessed... but I’ve just finished the ITTM book (which is a cracking good read I have to say) and there is not a single mention of the Green Tele anywhere! RR
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Post by jcb on Mar 29, 2019 0:18:08 GMT
No discussion of guitars at all, very disappointing. And....no one seems to have picked up on the bit where he says that theres quite a few albums that Mr. Parfitt did not play on.
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Post by blagult on Mar 29, 2019 8:36:53 GMT
No discussion of guitars at all, very disappointing. And....no one seems to have picked up on the bit where he says that theres quite a few albums that Mr. Parfitt did not play on. If he means later albums Surely Rick played on the tracks that he wrote clearly. And there was always a couple of Rick numbers in there. Even if he didn’t play on any others.
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Post by fretbuzzzzz on Mar 29, 2019 11:54:17 GMT
No discussion of guitars at all, very disappointing. And....no one seems to have picked up on the bit where he says that theres quite a few albums that Mr. Parfitt did not play on. <iframe width="25.519999999999982" height="3.5600000000000023" style="position: absolute; width: 25.519999999999982px; height: 3.5600000000000023px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none;left: 15px; top: -5px;" id="MoatPxIOPT1_67828600" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="25.519999999999982" height="3.5600000000000023" style="position: absolute; width: 25.52px; height: 3.56px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 1214px; top: -5px;" id="MoatPxIOPT1_77524891" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="25.519999999999982" height="3.5600000000000023" style="position: absolute; width: 25.52px; height: 3.56px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 15px; top: 118px;" id="MoatPxIOPT1_51536082" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="25.519999999999982" height="3.5600000000000023" style="position: absolute; width: 25.52px; height: 3.56px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 1214px; top: 118px;" id="MoatPxIOPT1_85491676" scrolling="no"></iframe> Apart from the first Aquostic album, my money would be on 'Thirsty Work'. Beyond that, Rick wanted to spend time with his new family in Spain, so looking at 2007/2008 onwards? <iframe width="25.059999999999945" height="3.5600000000000023" style="position: absolute; width: 25.059999999999945px; height: 3.5600000000000023px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none;left: 15px; top: -5px;" id="MoatPxIOPT1_66801142" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="25.059999999999945" height="3.5600000000000023" style="position: absolute; width: 25.06px; height: 3.56px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 1192px; top: -5px;" id="MoatPxIOPT1_58010243" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="25.059999999999945" height="3.5600000000000023" style="position: absolute; width: 25.06px; height: 3.56px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 15px; top: 118px;" id="MoatPxIOPT1_88189171" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="25.059999999999945" height="3.5600000000000023" style="position: absolute; width: 25.06px; height: 3.56px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 1192px; top: 118px;" id="MoatPxIOPT1_10943310" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="25.059999999999945" height="3.5600000000000023" style="position: absolute; width: 25.059999999999945px; height: 3.5600000000000023px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none;left: 15px; top: -5px;" id="MoatPxIOPT1_29278586" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="25.059999999999945" height="3.5600000000000023" style="position: absolute; width: 25.06px; height: 3.56px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 1193px; top: -5px;" id="MoatPxIOPT1_31445475" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="25.059999999999945" height="3.5600000000000023" style="position: absolute; width: 25.06px; height: 3.56px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 15px; top: 121px;" id="MoatPxIOPT1_80922971" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="25.059999999999945" height="3.5600000000000023" style="position: absolute; width: 25.06px; height: 3.56px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 1193px; top: 121px;" id="MoatPxIOPT1_70403399" scrolling="no"></iframe> As a rule, Francis doesn't really talk guitars, apart from the tale of painting the Telecaster with green garden paint. I think he sees guitars as just objects that enable him to do his job the way say a builder would see a drill or hammer etc! He did get a bit more excited about guitars when G&L were in touch with him.
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Post by MrWaistcoat on Mar 29, 2019 16:49:44 GMT
Yeah TW doesn't sound like Rick is on there, other than the Queenie vocal.
Did Rick write anything for NTL? Other than help with specially recording sybil, I suspect he didn't contribute beyond the original JS sessions
Clearly he is barely on the acquostic albums.
Can't see how it's more than these four, which would justify what francis says.
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Post by MrWaistcoat on Mar 29, 2019 16:55:09 GMT
Not that I’m guitar-obsessed... but I’ve just finished the ITTM book (which is a cracking good read I have to say) and there is not a single mention of the Green Tele anywhere! RR Like I say somewhere else, there's shed loads of things that are important to him that aren't in the book. The book is what's on his mind now, and Alan is clearly in there a lot, as is Rick. I do get why Francis feels strongly about Alan, but John? Can't remember John ever slagging anybody in public. Francis does say he was unfair with his "john hates gigging, rehearsing and recording" comments, but there's been lots of snide comments from him over the years. John seems to me to be a gentleman and doesn't deserve it. As for his time keeping etc, on the 2014 reunion tour I thought his playing was awesome, a true powerhouse
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Post by fretbuzzzzz on Mar 29, 2019 17:19:46 GMT
Yeah TW doesn't sound like Rick is on there, other than the Queenie vocal. Did Rick write anything for NTL? Other than help with specially recording sybil, I suspect he didn't contribute beyond the original JS sessions Clearly he is barely on the acquostic albums. Can't see how it's more than these four, which would justify what francis says. The intense 'Take Me Away' is one of Rick's. Rick had been thinking about re-recording the track for his solo album that later became the posthumous album. Though it is interesting that Rossi does all the vocal duties. Rossi also worked on a couple of tracks away from the Dublin studios sessions. There is something about 'Falling In Falling Out' that sounds like a signature Rick style track. I always think of 'Nutbush City Limits' when I hear it and Rick was very much a fan of that particular track. Bob Seger's version probably though Tina Turner's '73 studio version has a similar vibe. Later, live on stage versions from Tina T suffrered from too much speeding up. That sounds familiar!
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