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Post by Railroad17 on Sept 7, 2016 13:23:08 GMT
The vocals were recorded at the Artis portable studio..a bike going downhill in Surrey.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2016 13:25:40 GMT
Just listened to That's A Fact on the i-player. It would be too easy to diss and dismiss it for all the obvious reasons - but I will attempt some objectivity. Its always been a big big favourite of mine in its original FF form and this version is obviously a country mile away from it. That in itself makes it very hard to objective about it - because its set up for a fall before even hearing it. I can say almost certainly that a lot of long standing fans will loathe it What I will also say just for the the moment is that on my first hearing at least - it is very, very similar to the type of feel of quite a few songs on Francis solo album OSAAT. I liked OSAAT for its difference and because it was a solo album. But this isn't a solo effort and is being given very different treatment to say the least. It was a classic FF song and it requires a large amount of open mindedness to listen to it and then judge it !! There is maybe also an element of Bula Quo running through the song. Well, I discredited AQ1 for being far too strum along. The arrangements on this may be extremely thin compared to the chunky groove of the original, and Francis vocals I agree with above do sound weak and in need of some extra backing depth. However it can't be faulted at all, in my opinion, for trying something very (very) different. I can also say with certainty that I prefer it to some of the AQ1 efforts. That is a relative terms assessment. Its just the not so simple matter of trying to forget the four who recorded it and what this sounds like in comparison! One of my criticisms of the first album was they put effort into the 'singles' but not the other tracks. So we shall see how many effort are in the other reimaginings. Firstly they benefit from the source material it's a cracking song. In many ways the riff remains as does the chunky vocal. The rest is unnecessary window dressing which adds little. Rhinos bass line is to high in the mix especially as it's so generic it adds little. Francis can't help his voice is a shadow if what it was. Does it make me want to buy it ? No. Is it the worst thing they've done? No. Just a wasted opportunity. It might have been better to have played it rather 'Lakky Lady' style. In other words just a good acoustic groove and leaving room for some overplay from Francis in that wonderful instrumental section two thirds through. The problem apart from the bass sound, is that Johns drumming on the original also added so much to it. Any acoustic version minus the window dressing would need something similar to further under-punch it.
Orchestral backing is bound to alienate a lot of Quo fans, regardless of which song they choose. But Francis has picked that type of backing on his solo material along with female backing vocals which are also nor popular with many. And to me this sounds like one of his solo interpretations with those backing orchestral instrumentals.
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Post by vivfromcov on Sept 7, 2016 13:30:27 GMT
Not impressed... to put it mildly
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2016 13:31:50 GMT
Fuck it,why not? A bit of that unspeakably beastly 'macho' stuff.. cover your ears ladies or kindly leave the room.
I've probably heard that song at live gigs back in the 70's many more times than some of the 'macho' boys have
And I know the damage that those gigs did to my ears. Still its a pretty "rock n' roll" thing to happen innit.
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Post by gentlemanjoe on Sept 7, 2016 13:37:58 GMT
Too many strings in it for me.
As has been said they had good source material to work with(if Rossi hates the golden age of Quo so much, why still cherry pick from it for these records)
Might sound better beefed-up live?..
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Post by freewilly on Sept 7, 2016 14:15:35 GMT
God those strings and female backing singers sound so cheap and tacky.
Yeah,not having that at all. Shite
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Post by paradiseflats on Sept 7, 2016 14:21:19 GMT
What is hilarious is the presenter seems oblivious to the fact that this the second album with the same title. It made an impression lol
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Post by Victor on Sept 7, 2016 14:21:25 GMT
I listened... and as expected, I shouldn't have...it's nothing but utter, utter crap !
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Post by paradiseflats on Sept 7, 2016 14:22:49 GMT
I listened... and as expected, I shouldn't have...it's nothing but utter, utter crap ! See I think that's harsh really do... It might not be what we want but sadly they've done worse. It's still a cracking song just a worse version.
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Post by Victor on Sept 7, 2016 14:26:24 GMT
I listened... and as expected, I shouldn't have...it's nothing but utter, utter crap ! See I think that's harsh really do... It might not be what we want but sadly they've done worse. It's still a cracking song just a worse version. I'm sorry you think it's harsch. It's just the way i feel and is my opinion about it.
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Post by markquo on Sept 7, 2016 14:30:16 GMT
I listened... and as expected, I shouldn't have...it's nothing but utter, utter crap ! My mate just sent me this link I lasted a minute. Completely ruined an awesome track,really sad that this is all the band can come up with instead of even an Ep with Alan and John of new material. Cheers
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Post by Victor on Sept 7, 2016 14:31:21 GMT
I listened... and as expected, I shouldn't have...it's nothing but utter, utter crap ! My mate just sent me this link I lasted a minute. Completely ruined an awesome track,really sad that this is all the band can come up with instead of even an Ep with Alan and John of new material. Cheers Couldn't agree more, markquo
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Post by frozenhero on Sept 7, 2016 14:59:53 GMT
Writing while listening... Hm, interesting. The drums sound quite forward here, moreso than I remember A1 being like. That makes it sound heavy but also empty, because there's no electric guitars to balance it out. However Rhino's bass is all over the place, once again showing what a versatile player he is. Francis' voice sounds weak as others have mentioned The strings in the first part sounded more intriguing and dark than on most of A1, but then there's that sugary break in the middle that sounds very much like the end of Bula Bula Quo with the female vocalists (good call, @catlady), which doesn't fit at all IMO The blues guitar break put a smile on my face! Could have been a lot longer. Maybe is? Overall it seems like they attempted to put more disparate elements into the song, compared to A1 which had no variations within the songs at all, but with three distinctly different parts (1st very similar to the original version, 2nd very cheesy and 3rd very bluesy) it doesn't hang together all that well. If this song is any indication, Aquostic II will be far more interesting creatively than Aquostic I, but it will also contain at least 1/3 duds.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2016 15:06:58 GMT
I listened... and as expected, I shouldn't have...it's nothing but utter, utter crap ! See I think that's harsh really do... It might not be what we want but sadly they've done worse. It's still a cracking song just a worse version. Just a thought...for you and everyone else.... Imagine you've NEVER heard the original from -75 never even know it existed.....
Honestly....Would anyone rate this new version at all?? I know I wouldn't anyway.
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Post by paradiseflats on Sept 7, 2016 15:12:02 GMT
See I think that's harsh really do... It might not be what we want but sadly they've done worse. It's still a cracking song just a worse version. Just a thought...for you and everyone else.... Imagine you've NEVER heard the original from -75 never even know it existed.....
Honestly....Would anyone rate this new version at all?? I know I wouldn't anyway.
Thats a fair point. The answer would be thats alright but never need to hear it ever again. Certainly wouldnt buy it.
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