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Post by cammythemortonfan on Sept 23, 2022 20:14:26 GMT
Actually must be nearer 25. I seem to remember the old board I think in about 98? When I was at uni I think I think I started taking a look in 1998/99….at that point you didn’t have to register so occasionally there was a bit of naughtiness with folk pretending to ge others to cause some mischief!
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Post by sincity on Sept 23, 2022 23:21:08 GMT
Some glaring omissions & some absolutely bizarre selections on disc 2 & re doin old songs especially RAOTW(we dont & the world dont need another version of this) all those b sides yet none of these Shine On Heavy Traffic Creeping Up On You Oriental All That Counts Is Love Seems like yet another compilation thrown together with zero thought about content, Ive got the 3 cd version but tbh itsyet another cd i`l file away in the collection probably never to be played again
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Post by sqcollector on Sept 23, 2022 23:37:21 GMT
Does anyone know if ALL the tracks have been remastered, remixes aside? So, I got the hi-res version. UTI era tracks: They are remastered compared to the original CD release. Perhaps they are just the same versions as one of those remastered versions with the fork cover, because it has slightly less mids and more compression. I don't have one of those here to compare now. DS era tracks: Exact same as above, including the B-sides of this era (B-sides are the same digital transfers as the original singles tracks). Slightly tamed mids and more compression than the originals. They were probably compiled from the Edsel Records 2017 remaster with the bonus tracks. But I don't have that one to compare. HT era tracks: Jam Side Down has more compression than the original version. Blues And Rhythm has just a bit more peak limiting, but extremely minor. Any EQ changes are extremely minor. Party era tracks: Seem to be just more compressed versions of the 2017 reissue. Including the B-sides and the live medley. Important: I Ain't Ready/I'm Not Ready seems to have some sort of audio watermark. The Party Ain't Over Yet is the Single Mix. ISOTFC era tracks: BOTE has a glitch during the intro. Sounds just disappear for a fraction of a second. But it is audible. Same versions as the original CD release, but seem slightly more compressed. Important: It's Christmas Time is the edited version; not the original version. I think it's the first time this song is made available for purchase (you could stream it on Spotify, for example, if you searched for it). It means it's the first time you get the track as lossless. And it's really lossless. It's not like the original version and its usages on compilations, where it's just a lossy master (audible MP3 data compression artifacts and frequency only up to 16000 Hz). This version, despite being lossless, still has a rolloff at 19000 Hz... By the way, the Quo-eoke Mix released with the original CD single, is also lossless and has frequency info up to 22050 Hz. QPQ era tracks: They seem to be the original CD issue versions. I only have here ripped the 2013 version, with the bonus tracks, and that's slightly different from the original version. ITAN 2010 is just the original album version. This means it also has MP3 artifacts, just like the original album version, and useful info up to 16000 Hz. The one from this compilation seems to have slightly more compression than the original 2010 version. Bula Quo era tracks: Original versions. When I subtract from the original versions, I hear some distortion, but I don't think they are more compressed; could be just an extremely minor DC offset difference. This could be the case with ITAN above as well. Aquostic (I and II) era tracks: POMM is the original version. Down Down and That's a Fact are the originals but more compressed. Backbone era tracks: More compression. Face The Music has boosted bass. Liberty Lane seems to have as well, but not as much. None of these tracks seem to be truly hi-res. There are truly hi-res versions for Backbone and the Aquostic albums and they have proper frequency info above 22050. I didn't compare bit depth, though. All these tracks seem to be sourced from already available CDs and then just slightly re-EQed and more compressed. In rarer cases, without any changes applied to them. Just upsampled. Remixes and new version also seem to have very minor info above 22050. Like others said, this compilation could have been much much better. They could have used single versions that are hard to get, instead of just album versions again. They could have used proper masters, instead of just the same compressed sound all over again. They could have used other tracks... Anyway, the Backbone remixes are good (a nice alternative to the originals), IMO. And since I'm a the Quompletist, I'm glad to finally have the edited version of It's Christmas Time.
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Post by Triggsy on Sept 24, 2022 10:31:38 GMT
Played the first two CDs in the car so far, Cd 1 being far superior release wise to Cd 2, the 90's tracks haven't 'aged' well at all (still can't work out what the 90's have to do with a supposedly 2000 onwards compilation??) Agree with most on here, it's a half hearted (at best) effort, and as much as I've always loved Francis on vocals, it's relief to finally hear Rick's vocals (finally) on Cd2, not sure who decided to overall ignore Rick's vocal and songwriting contribution, but it's a really poor call Overpriced indeed and like previously mentioned, yet another compilation set for 'collection purposes' only, would love to know for those who, besides us actual long term Quo Fans, would actually buy this? (in today's basically download society) bargain bins by Christmas surely??
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Post by azza200 on Sept 24, 2022 11:38:56 GMT
Quo have how many compliation cd's out already?? another one is not really needed
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Post by quolion on Sept 24, 2022 11:48:03 GMT
This compilation is maybe a sort of financing the follow up to Backbone with new self written songs…
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Post by ant on Sept 24, 2022 11:51:39 GMT
I seem to remember on the old board Cammy you had a soft spot for driving to glory and the madness? Crazy to think that’s over 20 years ago we’ve all been talking about Quo. Spot on! I remember playing Driving To Glory to one of my non Quo fan pals and he thought it was a 70s track at first due to the fact it was rocking with loads of guitars . Always felt it was wasted as a bonus track - it would have been great had it been held over for Heavy Traffic although it proved not possible to do that . Where does the time go though ?! Twenty years has gone by in a flash Driving To Glory was written for a German motor racing drama, wasn't it? I remember buying the soundtrack just to get DTG and Fighting With The Pack - the rest of the album was disco type Quo remixes and tracks by other artists (from memory). Wiht the exception of these two excellent tracks the rest was bloody awful! Maybe htere are licensing rights issues? Especially as Heavy Traffic was on a different label. Bizarre how they made such little availabilty for a universally admired track.
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Post by matt on Sept 24, 2022 12:28:19 GMT
Fighting with the black is a song of two halves for me.
The last 2 minutes with the outro is great.
The first two minutes sounds like Bergerac mixed with Thirsty Work
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Post by matt on Sept 24, 2022 12:28:35 GMT
Fighting with the black is a song of two halves for me.
The last 2 minutes with the outro is great.
The first two minutes sounds like Bergerac mixed with Thirsty Work
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Post by mortified on Sept 24, 2022 12:58:55 GMT
Spot on! I remember playing Driving To Glory to one of my non Quo fan pals and he thought it was a 70s track at first due to the fact it was rocking with loads of guitars . Always felt it was wasted as a bonus track - it would have been great had it been held over for Heavy Traffic although it proved not possible to do that . Where does the time go though ?! Twenty years has gone by in a flash Driving To Glory was written for a German motor racing drama, wasn't it? I remember buying the soundtrack just to get DTG and Fighting With The Pack - the rest of the album was disco type Quo remixes and tracks by other artists (from memory). Wiht the exception of these two excellent tracks the rest was bloody awful! Maybe htere are licensing rights issues? Especially as Heavy Traffic was on a different label. Bizarre how they made such little availabilty for a universally admired track. Benzin im Blut (petrol in the blood?) I must admit, I didn't mind the 'dance' mixes of the other Quo tracks. But, yeah, it was a strange thing to hear. I only knew of this German TV drama in retrospect. Like most of us, I already had Driving To Glory and Fighting With The Pack via the Little White Lies single and the Rockers Rollin' - Quo in Time compilation. I agree with matt that Fighting With The Pack is a game of two halves. Bit limp early doors but kicks on later. A sort of The Wild Ones meets Thirsty Work
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Post by backwater67 on Sept 24, 2022 13:41:37 GMT
Some glaring omissions & some absolutely bizarre selections on disc 2 & re doin old songs especially RAOTW(we dont & the world dont need another version of this) all those b sides yet none of these Shine On Heavy Traffic Creeping Up On You Oriental All That Counts Is Love Seems like yet another compilation thrown together with zero thought about content, Ive got the 3 cd version but tbh itsyet another cd i`l file away in the collection probably never to be played again 100% agree. Seems like a bodge job & a name to tour under. A simple money maker which people seem to have got wise to! No’80 is poor by Quo standards which equates to about 1250 sales (which inc downloads). This weeks no’10 album only sold 4500 …dire compared to past times. Aquostic did 24000 1st week, Party & 4th chord approx 14000 each, by comparison very poor. Even recent budget albums 1st week sales shifted 3 to 4000 units. On a brighter note the original Army video single has passed 50m views on YouTube.
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Post by quovadis on Sept 24, 2022 14:12:07 GMT
I really cudnt be arsed buying this yet another Compilation how many compilations now seriously!!down down sounds absolutely crap apistic of coarse and do we really need all those songs I have them all anyway and paper plane whats wrong with the original I think quo are running out of material imo there no longer boogie or rock all imo of coarse rant over
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Post by gav on Sept 24, 2022 20:12:12 GMT
Does anyone know if ALL the tracks have been remastered, remixes aside? It's Christmas Time is the edited version; not the original version. I think it's the first time this song is made available for purchase (you could stream it on Spotify, for example, if you searched for it). It means it's the first time you get the track as lossless. And it's really lossless. It's not like the original version and its usages on compilations, where it's just a lossy master (audible MP3 data compression artifacts and frequency only up to 16000 Hz). This version, despite being lossless, still has a rolloff at 19000 Hz... By the way, the Quo-eoke Mix released with the original CD single, is also lossless and has frequency info up to 22050 Hz. Thanks for all your work there!
I wasn't aware of an edited version of ICT - all the versions i've heard across the various compilations (Collected, Pictures, Quoin' In) are all the same length - 4m12s. When you say edited, are you talking about length, or something else? I haven't the ear to go through them all!
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Post by mortified on Sept 24, 2022 21:43:04 GMT
Bottom line, this isn't aimed at us. This is aimed at casual listeners. All compilations are. Quo have had dozens. So have the Stones.
If you're looking for something to tempt the long term, know it all fan, then you are destined to be disappointed. The industry doesn't work like that. I know this sounds a bit odd, but it's not about the music. Once you get over that, you can ignore it. Either get it for the collection or don't.
I haven't yet but I will.
Probably.
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Post by allyp on Sept 24, 2022 22:49:36 GMT
As mortfied says these releases are not really aimed at the hardcore fanbase unless its a deluxe of an old album or a rarities live one or boxset. The presence of yet another re recording of caroline, rocking all over the world, and paper plane probably confirms this? However not really sure if the asda bargain bin browsers would be interested in obscure b sides or album tracks but if so could be a healthy way to promote recent material and maybe coax a few casuals into exploring the band more than greatest hits etc.
The remixes of tracks from 3 years ago may encourage a few die hards and completists to purchase it and the expanded version includes an unreleased live show in part. It will be interesting to see how the deluxe version of Heavy traffic sells as this is something the dedicated fan base will probably go for in the physical format. Chart positions mean diddly squat these days and you can be number 1 one week then Number 91 the next.Pre orders and download have changed everything really The midweek chart is really the one to look at if anyone that bothered now👍
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