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Post by paradiseflats on Aug 18, 2019 16:45:49 GMT
Pre ‘77 surely. All down hill once they got an ivory tinkler in the band.🤡 Pretty much writes off the entire history of the band with Roy Lynes at the start and odd session players till Andy joined fulltime. Just kiddin. Didn’t Rick also play a bit ?
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Post by Isaac Ryan on Aug 18, 2019 16:50:04 GMT
How little you know, you forget I am a fan of all eras, therefore I loved the FF gigs. When they were over it was back to business as usual. I don’t expect you to give post 1986 much recognition when you can’t see past AL. A fan of all eras who can’t take any criticism towards the band,yes.There are many like you which is fine,just those of us who happen to have a different opinion get jumped on at every turn.The defenders of the Status Quo!!!!! Cheers You criticise nearly everything post 1986, most of the time in threads where there is no need. You don’t like the new album listening to just snippets, your mind is already made up. Predictable because you can’t see past the line up changes.
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Post by markquo on Aug 18, 2019 17:02:58 GMT
A fan of all eras who can’t take any criticism towards the band,yes.There are many like you which is fine,just those of us who happen to have a different opinion get jumped on at every turn.The defenders of the Status Quo!!!!! Cheers You criticise nearly everything post 1986, most of the time in threads where there is no need. You don’t like the new album listening to just snippets, your mind is already made up. Predictable because you can’t see past the line up changes. As predictable as you jumping in on every occasion to proclaim how great it all is then Cheers
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Post by Isaac Ryan on Aug 18, 2019 17:13:01 GMT
You criticise nearly everything post 1986, most of the time in threads where there is no need. You don’t like the new album listening to just snippets, your mind is already made up. Predictable because you can’t see past the line up changes. As predictable as you jumping in on every occasion to proclaim how great it all is then Cheers Show me Mark, you read things that aren’t there. I said it sounds good to my ears so far, but will wait till I hear it in full. But please show me ALL the posts where I proclaim how great it ALL is.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2019 17:13:37 GMT
Pretty much writes off the entire history of the band with Roy Lynes at the start and odd session players till Andy joined fulltime. Just kiddin. Didn’t Rick also play a bit ? On quite a few tracks, some un-acknowledged as happened a lot back in the 70s and even 80s, the same with Andy's bass contributions.
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Post by quoboy76 on Aug 18, 2019 23:01:12 GMT
I do apologise for the personnel insult, I was drunk when I wrote that reply and it was totally uncalled for, I'm sorry. But it is clear that Americanquo is basing his opinion on the line up rather than the material, that's clear from his comment btw...how’s the head?😬 A lot better now thanks to a friendly bottle of vodka
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2019 16:44:20 GMT
Was this posted just to stir the pot even more? Had Alan not been ousted by Francis, Rick, the management and record company pressure the band would have imploded before the end of the 80s, as Alan had barely been on civil terms with Francis since around 78 and it had got worse and worse as the years passed with zero chance of rapprochement. That's the much-peddled "official" line. It wasn't the situation at the time. Any issues band members had with one another could have been resolved. That was evident from the numerous letters and faxes that surfaced a while back, all of which then strangely disappeared... It's worth remembering that Alan found out by chance that a band calling themselves Status Quo were in a studio making an album because certain people had decided to keep it from him.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2019 18:02:12 GMT
Was this posted just to stir the pot even more? Had Alan not been ousted by Francis, Rick, the management and record company pressure the band would have imploded before the end of the 80s, as Alan had barely been on civil terms with Francis since around 78 and it had got worse and worse as the years passed with zero chance of rapprochement. That's the much-peddled "official" line. It wasn't the situation at the time. Any issues band members had with one another could have been resolved. That was evident from the numerous letters and faxes that surfaced a while back, all of which then strangely disappeared... It's worth remembering that Alan found out by chance that a band calling themselves Status Quo were in a studio making an album because certain people had decided to keep it from him. How Alan found out he had been dispensed with was awful but sadly par for the course in the industry, consciences and finer feelings didn't matter when money and record contracts were at stake. As for things being able to be somehow smoothed over between Alan and Francis then no, their personal views of where the band should go were at completely opposite ends of the spectrum with hardly any points of agreement. Alan's disenchantment with Francis and with the band had been increasing since the late 70s and really went up a gear in the early 80s. And I'm not speaking the "official line" I'm speaking about people I knew and socialised with regularly back then, Rick especially when he was so often part of the Munich Music Mafia at weekends.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2019 18:18:47 GMT
That's the much-peddled "official" line. It wasn't the situation at the time. Any issues band members had with one another could have been resolved. That was evident from the numerous letters and faxes that surfaced a while back, all of which then strangely disappeared... It's worth remembering that Alan found out by chance that a band calling themselves Status Quo were in a studio making an album because certain people had decided to keep it from him. How Alan found out he had been dispensed with was awful but sadly par for the course in the industry, consciences and finer feelings didn't matter when money and record contracts were at stake. As for things being able to be somehow smoothed over between Alan and Francis then no, their personal views of where the band should go were at completely opposite ends of the spectrum with hardly any points of agreement. Alan's disenchantment with Francis and with the band had been increasing since the late 70s and really went up a gear in the early 80s. And I'm not speaking the "official line" I'm speaking about people I knew and socialised with regularly back then, Rick especially when he was so often part of the Munich Music Mafia at weekends. Fair enough if you were able to hear bits and pieces of stories from people but were the courts aware of the details of the treatment of Alan or was it simply "par for the course" for them to ignore it for the sake of money? I suppose we shouldn't question the integrity of the courts... Funny how evidence that contradicted what we had been told for years suddenly vanished. Could it have been because it was indeed bad for business?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2019 18:23:42 GMT
I doubt the courts were that interested in the internal wranglings of a rock band, if they had been the courts would have been full of members of Deep Purple, Whitesnake, Rainbow and numerous other originally English bands. People got sacked, had s**t dumped on them from a great height, it's just how the industry treated people, Alan was treated terribly but so were many others.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2019 18:32:12 GMT
I doubt the courts were that interested in the internal wranglings of a rock band, if they had been the courts would have been full of members of Deep Purple, Whitesnake, Rainbow and numerous other originally English bands. People got sacked, had s**t dumped on them from a great height, it's just how the industry treated people, Alan was treated terribly but so were many others. Doesn't make it any more right, does it? Interesting use of the past tense there. Treat ed. As if manipulation for the sake of money doesn't go on nowadays.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2019 18:52:27 GMT
I doubt the courts were that interested in the internal wranglings of a rock band, if they had been the courts would have been full of members of Deep Purple, Whitesnake, Rainbow and numerous other originally English bands. People got sacked, had s**t dumped on them from a great height, it's just how the industry treated people, Alan was treated terribly but so were many others. Doesn't make it any more right, does it? Interesting use of the past tense there. Treat ed. As if manipulation for the sake of money doesn't go on nowadays. I never said or implied it did. It will always go on in the music industry, sad to say but for many money will always trump loyalty and friendship.
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Post by frozenhero on Aug 25, 2019 9:20:52 GMT
All good PR stuff. The band all together laughing , having a good time, contributing equally etc. The message seemed to be we are a band and not just one fella representing Quo and it's a great album as a consequence of all that. Only thing that raised my eyebrow contrary to that approach was Ritchie saying he was told he would be lead vocal on one track. Surprised that got through the PR ! Minor thing I know, as ultimately the album will be judged on the strength of the songs themselves. I haven't heard them all, so will reserve judgement until such time as I have. Maybe I am on lead vocals on one track would have oiled the PR machine even more so. Leon saying it was a Rock album made me smile as well ( no emoji) , really! isn't that's what Quo do. Ok I haven't really done there studio stuff since 1982, so maybe not? I think there were times in the 80s and 90s when they were more pop/rock. But, you know, Rick the rocker went along with it at the time. As for Leon's comment, well he hasn't played on a proper studio album by Quo yet, as all he's done so far is the two Aquostic records and of course live concerts, so it's actually a first for him. Given how he's been improving as a player, it's not a bad time for him. Edit: That's what happens when you reply and haven't read the entire thread yet.
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Post by frozenhero on Aug 25, 2019 9:24:28 GMT
As Rhino says in the latest vid the band have had criticism and knock backs time after time, but they are still here and they are still Status Quo. Also like I said they still sound unmistakable in my opinion. So back on topic we won’t really know till we have all heard it in full. Not like you need to hear it though your mind is made up. He may hear his Status Quo, but it doesn’t sound like classic Status Quo. Post 2000Quo. If that’s your thing fair enough. Would I like it if I heard it and not knew who it was... the answer is no. The opening riff of Backbone immediately made me think of OTL. Not surprising though since it came around a jam of Francis' preceding Down Down (as you can hear on the LNOTE DVD). The song itself also reminds me of QPQ and "Bohemian Like You" by The Dandy Warhols! Obviously, Rick's voice harmonising with Francis is something that's missing, and that was a quintessential part of the Quo sound. And I reckon this is something I'll have to get used to.
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Post by MrWaistcoat on Aug 25, 2019 9:27:06 GMT
I do understand why Francis is irked by "FR and friends" comments. And yes it does sound like this is a band effort
But there are buts..eg
Here's Leon's bio on twitter:
leon cave @leoncavemusic Session drummer, guitarist and bassist, from Northwich and living in London. Drummer for Status Quo
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