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Post by blagult on Aug 16, 2019 23:53:06 GMT
The really funny thing about all this old v New is that Quo probably got their worst press actually in the 70’s. “The Joke band who sounded the same on every song” Only defended by their loyal fans. Now they get much better press “ Rock Royalty” etc..but it’s now a small section of those old defenders and 80’s joiners dishing the stick. Funny old world isn’t it 😂
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Post by fretbuzzzzz on Aug 17, 2019 0:56:11 GMT
The really funny thing about all this old v New is that Quo probably got their worst press actually in the 70’s. “The Joke band who sounded the same on every song” Only defended by their loyal fans. Now they get much better press “ Rock Royalty” etc..but it’s now a small section of those old defenders and 80’s joiners dishing the stick. Funny old world isn’t it 😂 There's some truth in that, of course, but not too difficult to see why the loyal defenders from those times may now feel more marginalised. They were the ones who supported Quo from the early years by attending the multiple night gigs, every few months. The defenders actually put pen to paper and none of this easy-peasy clicky computer mouse stuff. Fans had to put their views down in writing then go to the post office to buy stamps, then post their letters off to the music papers in the hope that their views may get heard/seen by being published (rare). Completely different times from today but absolutely vital in terms of showing that Quo had that level of support from the start. I'm not sure the band truly understood or appreciated just how really lucky they were to have that committed support for a long time. They were often too much in their own zone, for various reasons, to grasp just how significant those loyal Quo fans were to their continued success in the 70s/80s. For whatever reasons, in the 70s especially, Quo attracted fans who were dedicated followers.
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Post by Isaac Ryan on Aug 17, 2019 6:55:28 GMT
The really funny thing about all this old v New is that Quo probably got their worst press actually in the 70’s. “The Joke band who sounded the same on every song” Only defended by their loyal fans. Now they get much better press “ Rock Royalty” etc..but it’s now a small section of those old defenders and 80’s joiners dishing the stick. Funny old world isn’t it 😂 There's some truth in that, of course, but not too difficult to see why the loyal defenders from those times may now feel more marginalised. They were the ones who supported Quo from the early years by attending the multiple night gigs, every few months. The defenders actually put pen to paper and none of this easy-peasy clicky computer mouse stuff. Fans had to put their views down in writing then go to the post office to buy stamps, then post their letters off to the music papers in the hope that their views may get heard/seen by being published (rare). Completely different times from today but absolutely vital in terms of showing that Quo had that level of support from the start. I'm not sure the band truly understood or appreciated just how really lucky they were to have that committed support for a long time. They were often too much in their own zone, for various reasons, to grasp just how significant those loyal Quo fans were to their continued success in the 70s/80s. For whatever reasons, in the 70s especially, Quo attracted fans who were dedicated followers. But for some now it's still all about the line up and their loyalty towards the FF. Sh1t happened, members left. Rhino has been there 33+ years and fans won't like him simply because he replaced AL. Nobody will ever be a better fit than JC, but we have had some great drummers and have one now. People have heard the new single on radio 2 and have said to me, no change there then the music has evolved over the years it probably had to in order to survive, but as a Quo fan I enjoy most of what they release. There are exceptions but for me that is either side of 1986.
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Post by MrWaistcoat on Aug 17, 2019 8:13:21 GMT
I read his book and thought "I finally get him"
Watched him here in his suit and I'm scratching my head again
He knows the business
He's promoting a genuine band effort of a rock album...in a suit
I get that he likes being smart now as he's got older. He's also keen on explaining how he gets the business side of everything
He gets that he needs to wear his "work clothes" onstage....
Someone is bound to say it doesn't matter what he wears, and of course it doesn't... but it is, ahem, unusual. Who else would do that to promote a rock album?
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Post by daipembs on Aug 17, 2019 8:35:14 GMT
It’s a discussion about the new album,there’s always differing views that’s what makes it a discussion.Anything any band records will always be judged on what came before it’s just the way it is Cheers True, nothing wrong with healthy discussion. I guess the judgement thing is inevitable but where you draw that line in the sand can cloud matters too. Many put 86 as the before and after point (understandably) but for me it's probably a decade earlier. That run of classic albums ended in 76 and the live album was a watershed in many ways. Even with the original lineup the run of albums post 76 were a bit hit and miss to say the least. Anyway, looking forward to hearing the new album in its entirety. I'm sure there's some stuff on there I'll absolutely hate but I'm hoping for a couple of diamonds in the rough. 😉
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Post by blagult on Aug 17, 2019 8:53:22 GMT
The really funny thing about all this old v New is that Quo probably got their worst press actually in the 70’s. “The Joke band who sounded the same on every song” Only defended by their loyal fans. Now they get much better press “ Rock Royalty” etc..but it’s now a small section of those old defenders and 80’s joiners dishing the stick. Funny old world isn’t it 😂 There's some truth in that, of course, but not too difficult to see why the loyal defenders from those times may now feel more marginalised. They were the ones who supported Quo from the early years by attending the multiple night gigs, every few months. The defenders actually put pen to paper and none of this easy-peasy clicky computer mouse stuff. Fans had to put their views down in writing then go to the post office to buy stamps, then post their letters off to the music papers in the hope that their views may get heard/seen by being published (rare). Completely different times from today but absolutely vital in terms of showing that Quo had that level of support from the start. I'm not sure the band truly understood or appreciated just how really lucky they were to have that committed support for a long time. They were often too much in their own zone, for various reasons, to grasp just how significant those loyal Quo fans were to their continued success in the 70s/80s. For whatever reasons, in the 70s especially, Quo attracted fans who were dedicated followers. Great post. Yeah that’s true. Although we all defended them the Music press never printed any fans response to articles/ reviews. I think a lot of it was jealousy that Quo had this Fan Base. Even had to defend them amongst our music pals as well. I know i did. To be fair though most successful Rock bands had massive fan bases and sold out just as much. It’s just that Quo could cross the boundaries between the albums and singles chart similar to the likes of Lizzy. But as I said the music press has moved on respectfully. There has been a lot of Quo history added post 84 !
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Post by fretbuzzzzz on Aug 17, 2019 10:14:29 GMT
There's some truth in that, of course, but not too difficult to see why the loyal defenders from those times may now feel more marginalised. They were the ones who supported Quo from the early years by attending the multiple night gigs, every few months. The defenders actually put pen to paper and none of this easy-peasy clicky computer mouse stuff. Fans had to put their views down in writing then go to the post office to buy stamps, then post their letters off to the music papers in the hope that their views may get heard/seen by being published (rare). Completely different times from today but absolutely vital in terms of showing that Quo had that level of support from the start. I'm not sure the band truly understood or appreciated just how really lucky they were to have that committed support for a long time. They were often too much in their own zone, for various reasons, to grasp just how significant those loyal Quo fans were to their continued success in the 70s/80s. For whatever reasons, in the 70s especially, Quo attracted fans who were dedicated followers. Great post. Yeah that’s true. Although we all defended them the Music press never printed any fans response to articles/ reviews. I think a lot of it was jealousy that Quo had this Fan Base. Even had to defend them amongst our music pals as well. I know i did. To be fair though most successful Rock bands had massive fan bases and sold out just as much. It’s just that Quo could cross the boundaries between the albums and singles chart similar to the likes of Lizzy. But as I said the music press has moved on respectfully. There has been a lot of Quo history added post 84 ! That's an interesting point about jealousy. Certainly seemed like the music press in the 70s/80s knew they had plenty of clout and power and prepared to use it. I think it was Danny Baker who said that when he was working in the music press it became a game for him and other Journos to come up with the funniest but damning reviews of albums and bands which had little to do with the actual album etc ultimately, but the critics were out to make a name for themselves. Quo were not completely void of support in the press back then though it seemed thin on the ground. Journalist John Shearlaw springs to mind. He was on the books with the Record Mirror a long time ago. Which has reminded me that a relative of mine wrote a couple of pages to the Record Mirror, in response to a very negative review by Mike Nicholls of 'Never Too Late'. Just one of those reviews where you sensed the critic didn't want to like it or Quo for that matter. My relative, being 16 at that time and she had that mix of put-down humour and plenty of teenage attitude to bite back with! Anyway, on that occasion, the Record Mirror were impressed enough to print it and even commissioned a hand drawn cartoon to go with it. From memory it was 3 lads, in denim n' leather jackets etc, getting ready to go off to see a Quo gig, with one of them practicing some air guitar. One of them is talking to the other and the caption read something like ".. Dave's doing bass tonight.." ! My relative also mentioned her admiration of John Shearlaw in the same letter, to which the Record Mirror added something along the lines that John Shearlaw's ego was now getting even larger but Mike Nicholls remains bloodied but unbowed with the continuing saga about his review. I'm assuming they had more responses in their mail bag from Quo fans.
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Post by fretbuzzzzz on Aug 17, 2019 10:34:49 GMT
There's some truth in that, of course, but not too difficult to see why the loyal defenders from those times may now feel more marginalised. They were the ones who supported Quo from the early years by attending the multiple night gigs, every few months. The defenders actually put pen to paper and none of this easy-peasy clicky computer mouse stuff. Fans had to put their views down in writing then go to the post office to buy stamps, then post their letters off to the music papers in the hope that their views may get heard/seen by being published (rare). Completely different times from today but absolutely vital in terms of showing that Quo had that level of support from the start. I'm not sure the band truly understood or appreciated just how really lucky they were to have that committed support for a long time. They were often too much in their own zone, for various reasons, to grasp just how significant those loyal Quo fans were to their continued success in the 70s/80s. For whatever reasons, in the 70s especially, Quo attracted fans who were dedicated followers. But for some now it's still all about the line up and their loyalty towards the FF. Sh1t happened, members left. Rhino has been there 33+ years and fans won't like him simply because he replaced AL. Nobody will ever be a better fit than JC, but we have had some great drummers and have one now. People have heard the new single on radio 2 and have said to me, no change there then the music has evolved over the years it probably had to in order to survive, but as a Quo fan I enjoy most of what they release. There are exceptions but for me that is either side of 1986. That's an interesting point about the comments of "no change there then". For many of us, Quo's music has changed significantly through the years and you mention their music evolving, though to the more casual listener, Quo are still doing the same old thing. Back in the mid-late 90s and visiting my relatives and my niece and nephew were playing an Oasis CD. My sister-in-law said it sounded like Status Quo and couldn't tell the difference!
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Post by freewilly on Aug 17, 2019 11:22:55 GMT
It's not Quo to me. That will always be Rick,Francis, Alan and John.
However, good to see people enthusiastic about making music and will make sure to check it out
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Post by musiktruhe on Aug 17, 2019 12:16:33 GMT
That is also my view after I have seen the reunion tours in 2013/4.
Rhino could be the next 200 years a member of these Band for me he will be a hired hand who do what the boss say.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2019 15:54:44 GMT
That is also my view after I have seen the reunion tours in 2013/4. Rhino could be the next 200 years a member of these Band for me he will be a hired hand who do what the boss say. Which bands for you don't have hired hands just original or full members? It would be interesting to know which bands you approve of and are positive about.
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Post by wishing4oldquo on Aug 17, 2019 17:09:59 GMT
Back on topic, (ok, I am late getting here but I have had difficulty logging into my account for some reason)....I can't recall Quo ever putting out a promo that is as slick as this. It's very well produced and played out in my opinion - excellent editing, which gives it a punch and a positivity that really works as a piece of marketing - I have read reactions above and yeah, so Rossi is wearing a suit, for a 'rock' album: for me that's him being him and there is a parallel with his past (scruffy jeans and rebellious look in the 70s = not conforming, and now, not putting on 'Quo work clothes' for the promo)....so I am fine with the whole thing, no, more than fine, I am impressed.
Sadly though, I don't think the actual album will impress me as much. I have said a few times, my expectation of a latter day Quo album, from HT onwards, it will give me 2 or sometimes even 3 songs which I really like (or even love, such as Dust to Gold); the bulk of the album will be meh/ok/bland (e.g Liberty Lane and Backbone) then a couple will be truly dreadful to my taste e.g The Winner (if ever there was a misnomer...as its a "loser" of a track for me!).
But from the clips, I don't get a sense of the heavier feel of my favourites from HT and QPQ (e.g TWT), the CMSS clip has a Solid Gold feel to it, but somehow lighter in production. The clip which is head and shoulders above everything else is what I assume to be Richie's song (it starts as the little dog is on screen), not 'heavy', but something about it gives it a 'yeah, can't wait to hear the rest of that'....putting a lot of hope on that one. Overall I think that it will be very 'slick' and quite possibly a better 'Quo Lite' album than we have had before, so I might get some "On The Level" moments, but I really don't expect any "Quo" hard rock. Bl00dy excited about finding out tho :-)
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Post by Mrs Flittersnoop on Aug 17, 2019 23:49:48 GMT
The really funny thing about all this old v New is that Quo probably got their worst press actually in the 70’s. “The Joke band who sounded the same on every song” Only defended by their loyal fans. Now they get much better press “ Rock Royalty” etc..but it’s now a small section of those old defenders and 80’s joiners dishing the stick. Funny old world isn’t it 😂
Yes yes and yes!
I'm at a sci fi con this weekend. There was a discussion group, "How come SF particularly attracts fans who feel they need to pick their admired authors to pieces!" I am keeping my trap shut ...
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Post by paradiseflats on Aug 18, 2019 10:26:49 GMT
That is also my view after I have seen the reunion tours in 2013/4. Rhino could be the next 200 years a member of these Band for me he will be a hired hand who do what the boss say. Which bands for you don't have hired hands just original or full members? It would be interesting to know which bands you approve of and are positive about. Never understood the whole lineup purity. Although in most lineups are better than others. Some I have accepted and stayed for the ride. Others the change has been terminal for me. I suppose it depends on the band to. Whitesnake has always been a revolving door. For many bands I haven’t a clue about the lineup. Even in the 80s I referred to band members as Ken and Ken. It’s about the music and contribution. John Edwards has been a band member a long time. In that time for me he has contributed a handful of decent songs and a couple of very good ones. Alan for me wrote all time classic rock songs at his best. Largely I think due to the band taking a song and making it a classic. Backwater is elevated by Rivks playing and Francis’s great solo. Take Rhinos best song and for me there is no great elevation. Rhinos vocals are pub level. But others may like them.
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Post by MrWaistcoat on Aug 18, 2019 10:32:30 GMT
I am looking forward to the album, sounds like it will be very enjoyable. The real test for it will be whether it becomes one I go back to in time. Since John left, it's only HT and ISOTFC I listen to sometimes, with all the others having a song or three I like. Hope it can be our album of the month in a years time!
What does sadden me is that the bands visual identity is no longer recognisable to me as SQ. The sound is there. Onstage they pass for the same band that's been there since 1986, offstage I simply don't see SQ at all. Visual impact was a big part of classic Quo. And it's not just an age thing. The Stones still very much look like the Stones, on and off stage.
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