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Post by frozenhero on Apr 5, 2017 9:44:42 GMT
I quite like Dreamin' - for pity's sake - which is totally unacceptable - unlike the songs I like on 1982, which I feel comfortable admitting. I also like Dreamin', but it's a very taboo song to like... Strange it was written in the early 70's as Naughty Girl and shoved to the side until Army, and then renamed Dreamin' because of the whole thing with Alan I think the song isn't half bad, but the arrangement really turns it into something horrible. Wish they had recorded it earlier, before those synths were available...
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Post by frozenhero on Apr 5, 2017 9:43:57 GMT
I wasn't addressing you with that second sentence, even though I quoted you... anyway I'm not really being serious either... but repeatedly correcting other posters over writing the shorter song title isn't really funny, it's just petty IMO. They were joking Good to know
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Post by frozenhero on Apr 5, 2017 9:40:17 GMT
Also, doesn't Oh! What a Night sound like a prequel to WYW, at least the intro? No Good to know
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Post by frozenhero on Apr 5, 2017 9:39:37 GMT
Nah, pretty sure the band themselves have spelled it that way on some releases. Anyway getting bent out of shape over one missing letter, really? I think you are missing the tongue in cheek humour that is prevailing over this in the thread, including my own post. I always use even when I don't meant them I wasn't addressing you with that second sentence, even though I quoted you... anyway I'm not really being serious either... but repeatedly correcting other posters over writing the shorter song title isn't really funny, it's just petty IMO.
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Post by frozenhero on Apr 5, 2017 9:37:17 GMT
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Post by frozenhero on Apr 5, 2017 9:28:05 GMT
Also, doesn't Oh! What a Night sound like a prequel to WYW, at least the intro?
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Post by frozenhero on Apr 5, 2017 9:27:38 GMT
There is an inaccurate anomaly on some sites. The 'A' is missing Nah, pretty sure the band themselves have spelled it that way on some releases. Anyway getting bent out of shape over one missing letter, really?
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Post by frozenhero on Mar 22, 2017 16:54:54 GMT
Spotify is the best way to go about listening to it before you bother buying anything... Hello has to have been one of the worst Deluxe Editions so far... 2nd disc, they had fuck all to put on so they did a stereo and mono edit of Caroline, awful bootleg and Don't Waste My Time from the Reading Festival which really belonged on Piledriver... Why is it they decided to start doing these Deluxe Editions anyway? was it to make up for all the royalties Alan (and John?) had lost out on up until 08/09? when they he had settled an agreement Why does the 1973 Reading Festival recording belong on Piledriver from 1972? Excluding the fact that Piledriver was filled to the brim anyway (79 minutes) and even missed the Peel Session of "Softer Ride" (which admittedly should really have been included on Hello for completeness sake, along with the original demo of "Claudie"). The 2005 remasters weren't all that great sonically and rather poorly designed, I think. Bringing these albums out onto the market again with better remastering, new liner notes and - at least in some cases - substantial bonus material (think RAOTW or the Live! box set) makes sense, it's just that some of the bonus discs are underwhelming. It's still better than some bands who just keep reissuing their material without any add-ons. And of course, royalties are a reason as well. With the exception of "Getting Better" they include everything that's been on the 2005 remasters, so you don't really need those anymore. The idea of a deluxe edition is to highlight albums and give them a special reissue. Of course now we have all the FF albums but some bands only release deluxe editions of a few select titles (Supertramp, Pink Floyd etc.).
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Post by frozenhero on Mar 22, 2017 16:33:26 GMT
interesting for me trying to decipher dadadada and IDWHYA. So dadadada - is the base of ROLD?? To my ears, those later tracks Bad News and Figure of Eight are nothing like those early tracks except for their heaviness. They're skippers for me. And also Two Way Traffic doesn't sound like Quo either. Its a rock sound for sure but not Quo, for me. For me its the dadada plus the Rossi/Parfitt interplay which defines the Quo sound I prefer. I've always felt Bad News mimicks ROLD, perhaps to its detriment but the key parts are all there: Starting on a heavy riff (with the dundudundudun, or dadadada or thumpy thumpy or however we call it), including two verse/chorus parts followed by a calmer part that leads into a buildup before a reprise of the vocal part and finally an outro based on the intro. Plus the chorus adds harmony vocals to the one-voice verses. That's a lot of parallels. The main structural difference is the placement of the guitar solos (between the first two verses and after the buildup in BN, after the second chorus and at the end in ROLD). Figure of Eight has a similar groove to WYW, I think. But I agree that TWT isn't all that Quoish. I very much like it but it has a harsher edge to it than classic Quo. I do see where the comparison to Little Lady comes from though. Ah...
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Post by frozenhero on Mar 22, 2017 16:26:33 GMT
Great post Mrs Flittersnoop Interesting what you say about the heaviness. I tend to think that the heaviness is part of the Quo sound. I think the heaviness lends some oomph to the sound that takes it to another level. Some "recent" (!) examples. The song TOY - kind of Quo by numbers, pointless but OK. But an outside producer remixed it, and a heavier single went out. It's much, much better - really quite enjoyable with that extra oomph. And Francis didn't think so, and was very negative about the remix. Pure and simple, he's wrong. I would say the same about the whole HT album - most of the key ingredients to the Quo sound are there - but it's not heavy enough. Rhino made the same point when it was released - so it's not like there was nobody there that wanted heavier. But yes, songs like a year ain't heavy! But they are raw. And after the classic Quo period, raw was something we got starved of. Probably why I loved "you let me down", even though it's not really a great song. Just was amazing to hear them being raw again. Thing is ISOTFC is heavier than HT but I think HT is a better album as the songs are better. I played HT yesterday for the first time in ages and really got into it. ISOTFC had heaviness no doubt but I think it's a bit too loud and compressed. QPQ probably has the best sound of the later albums. I find the exaggerated compression on ISOTFC (the CD only, apparently the vinyl sounds a lot better) easier to take than the weird EQ on QPQ. Particularly when cymbals are concerned. It's not as bad as earlier Paxman efforts but sounds kinda pale compared to the fullness of ISOTFC.
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Post by frozenhero on Mar 22, 2017 15:58:29 GMT
I will admit the lyrics are stupid but. I love the rhythm to that one and the little riff gets in my head and I can't stop humming the bloody thing. Nothing wrong with that. If you like it, you like it, it's that simple Varies from person to person... I like the song The Winner from QPQ , lots and lots of people who think it's terrible. Would be boring if we'd all like the same things Exactly, we don't control what we like - which is why I always react allergic to people demonizing others for expressing like of this or that song or album. As for The Winner, it's my least favourite from QPQ but I can't say that I think it's "bad", it just doesn't appeal much to me. Probably one of the few recentish Quo songs that could have worked better within a Rossi solo album context.
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Post by frozenhero on Mar 22, 2017 15:55:25 GMT
It's the only Quo or Quo related song I can think of where female backing singers work. Unfortunately Francis does not agree with you (or me)...
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Post by frozenhero on Mar 12, 2017 14:31:41 GMT
There isn't a track on this album I don't like. Is it true that there never was a CD version released on the original album with no stick-ons added? (I'm still on rattly cassettes for most of my Quo albums.) The deluxe edition gives you the album proper on disc 1 and bonus stuff (but unfortunately missing two of the US mixes ) on disc 2. Have to say, the instrumental version of "Living on an Island" is wonderful IMO.
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Post by frozenhero on Mar 12, 2017 12:11:41 GMT
What's the sound like on the mainz gig? Worth getting? Ranging from average to good. The strangest thing is Rick's inaudible vocal in Little Lady...
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Post by frozenhero on Mar 12, 2017 12:09:49 GMT
Spotify is the best way to go about listening to it before you bother buying anything... Hello has to have been one of the worst Deluxe Editions so far... 2nd disc, they had fuck all to put on so they did a stereo and mono edit of Caroline, awful bootleg and Don't Waste My Time from the Reading Festival which really belonged on Piledriver... Why is it they decided to start doing these Deluxe Editions anyway? was it to make up for all the royalties Alan (and John?) had lost out on up until 08/09? when they he had settled an agreement I don't think it's down to Quo, I think it's down to Universal. Since theres no trace of "Fourth Chord Records" on the packaging, my guess is Universal got the rights to the back catalogue when they signed to them back in the Heavy Traffic days. So they'll repackage it all in multiple ways to squeeze as much cash as they can. Actually it has nothing to do with HT. Universal have rights to everything released under Vertigo.
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