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Post by frozenhero on Apr 12, 2017 11:43:49 GMT
I must have cloth ears 'cos I can't hear slide guitar on that track but I can hear Francis. According to the Quo official site they produced this album. Pip is credited as producer on RAOTW, IYCSTH and WYW. Pip was gone until the Army album from my understanding. Almost... he produced The Wanderer, but other than that you're right.
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Post by frozenhero on Apr 12, 2017 11:42:05 GMT
I don't believe it was him playing on ARFL. See, I don't know. You can tell the difference between him and when Pip played the solos but, I think that was him on ARFL. It's something like the way he'd play. Plus, who else would have done it at the time do ya reckon? It was before Williams came along It sounds like him, so I guess it's him...
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Post by frozenhero on Apr 12, 2017 11:37:34 GMT
Just watching my e book DVD 2013 Reunion again. Haven't watched it for a while and appreciating Rossi's brilliance. Yes he wants to prove he's top dog but yeah wow ...he's very good when he wants to be. I've said it before but I think his playing on the 2013 DVD is feckin awful. All the feckin way through. Pains me to say this but it pained me even more watching this and shaking my head. Finally in BBJ he finds some inspiration and starts to play some nice blues licks. Too late Frame. In Dublin 2014 he was much better, not 100% his old self but the solos mostly sounded the way they should. Wembley 2013 is an abomination from the lead guitar standpoint.
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Post by frozenhero on Apr 11, 2017 20:40:20 GMT
I knew that Though obviously Falco co-wrote "Amadeus" and like everything else, he was mainly singing about himself
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Post by frozenhero on Apr 11, 2017 20:39:39 GMT
Wonder why only Selected Tracks from Le Mans and not Full Show like St.Austell...? There was no tour for Just Supposin' so they had to put something on there, and decided to focus on the JS tracks, which sorta makes sense. This was always going to be tough filling up deluxe editions from that period. I'm mainly looking forward to hearing the last three FF remasters by Andy Pearce, hopefully he's eased back on the compression front.
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Post by frozenhero on Apr 11, 2017 20:37:42 GMT
The bonus track with Bula Quo was a live collection....It was touched up massively to sound like it was a real, professional recording, instead of those "official bootleg" things... What exactly are you trying to say? The live tracks on Bula came from Montreux (but sounded far worse than my Montreux CD/DVD thanks to Mike Paxman's cloth ears) and the QPQ bonus CD, which was professionally recorded and remixed.
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Post by frozenhero on Apr 11, 2017 20:34:19 GMT
Cheers, no probs! Back on topic, reluctantly went for DTIM (despite having an excellent Quo swagger and containing arguably Rossi's best solo), and Backwater/JTM (yeah, i know) simply cos the versions on the Live album are superior and more gutsy. Not much of a reason, but had to choose. Still, for the sake of argument, i've never got the attitude against Drifting Away either! It's hell of a raw, brash, balls out rock n roller, tempered by some great melodic, semi-country jangly Rossi soloing. Top 10 Quo track for me....funny how we differ so much. And Accident Prone i've always loathed for it's pretty dull melody, nothing to do with the disco. Curious how it seems to have so much love on here, i'd have thought people would have it down as a fairly weak track, but i guess it's variation on a theme is it's charm for some? Cheers. Yea, it's all personal preference...what sounds a certain way to one will sound totally different to another. With Drifting away my problem has just been that , for me, Alan's voice just didn't sound good to me on that track, too constrained in places... also the song itself had a different structure for me then what I liked, as you mention, Don't think it matters has the typical quo swagger which is probably the reason I liked that song a whole lot more compared to Drifting away. And yes, that solo from Francis in DTIM is fantastic ! I've realized that if there is any basis to the whole "all Quo songs sound the same" bullshit that there are some similarities between Hello! and Quo despite being almost polar opposites in their overall impression. Backwater/Just Take Me both have parts similar to parts of 4500x (the calm part in Backwater, the breakdown in JTM) and Don't Think It Matters could segue seamlessly into Roll Over Lay Down at one point...
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Post by frozenhero on Apr 11, 2017 20:27:41 GMT
Now I love the Quo album - (I don't know what they meant by "unbalanced" - always felt it flows well and so much so it was their nearest thing to a concept album until WYW came along, IMO.) - but I wonder if this one will be easier for you all than Hello! as it has a wide variety of styles on it. Anyway - we gotta vote... I think it's unbalanced because it's a bit dry... maybe takes itself a bit too seriously except FFF. It just doesn't quite make the same connection with me as Piledriver, Hello or BFY (!). Too much Alan vocals as well for me, I like him providing variety but this is a bit much, particularly considering the tone he often takes on here (as opposed to something like Ease Your Mind or Too Far Gone, not personal favourites but examples of a style he doesn't employ here). My choices - Drifiting Away (which just doesn't appeal to me except for the twin guitar bit), Fine Fine Fine (too Schlager-y for me) and Lonely Man. Yeah, I know. Sacrilege. Maybe it's just down to the production but the song starts to get on my nerves despite some interesting psychedelic elements in the mix. Never understood why Break the Rules seems to be rather unpopular on here - I've always loved it and can't not love it!
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Post by frozenhero on Apr 11, 2017 20:19:35 GMT
It was from the 'Just For The Record' book. It states it to be the first Rossi and Young song... And the first track written by both Rossi and Young didn't appear until IYCSTH? So it must have been early 70's for Naughty Girl, but it could've changed drastically in those 10+ years... who knows Hi. Not sure if anyone answered this as I'm only on page 5 of 8!! But you mean the first Rossi and Frost song obviously?
I thought that Naughty Girl was from 1978. I can't remember where I got that from, but it's stuck in my head. If that's when Francis and Bernie first wrote together then that could make sense. Also I agree that it sounds quite like it would fit in with IYCSTH with the synths / horns. Would have probably sounded slightly less poppy in 1978 though than 1986! It obviously didn't make the cut in 1978 (if it was put forward for the album), but in 1986 I think they just took anything they could get their hands on to get an album out there to satisfy the record company. Not sure how much quality assurance there was over the choice of the songs!
I noticed it but decided not to open my virtual mouth
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Post by frozenhero on Apr 11, 2017 20:18:42 GMT
One of the most characterizing things of the Frossi-Rost collaborations was that they sounded like nursery rhymes.... must have been the Lauda.... Yea certain songs did...Others didn't though (Come Rock with me/Rockin on, Runaway, Another game in Town, Never too Late, Long Ago, Riverside, Doesn't matter, I should have known, Twenty Wild Horses, Under the Influence)...yes, they wrote some crap for sure, but they also wrote some very good songs imo. Though according to the new deluxe that one's a Rossi/Young collab. It does sound more like Rossi/Frost to me, particularly the part that predates "Lies".
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Post by frozenhero on Apr 11, 2017 20:17:04 GMT
If we are still talking about that atrocious Dreamin' song, there isn't a single redeeming feature about it, synths or no synths.
IYCSTH gets a lot of stick with Quo fans for its experiments with production, backing vocals etc, but I've always enjoyed the album. I can remember John Peel (RIP) bless him, playing quite a few songs from the album prior to release on his late evening show. My Dad, who unlike my Mum thought Quo were a joke band, even liked the album Compared to the likes of Going Down Town Tonight? Yes, it's got a catchy melody. As a composition, it's not all that different from something like, say, "Runaway". And when you listen to the 78/79 FF outtakes of "Keep Me Guessing", "Late Last Night" or "Invitation" and compare them to the finished mid-80s versions you'll see how much difference arrangements can make. The ITAN version of "Invitation" sounds so polished, so empty to me - I was genuinely surprised how much I liked the "demo" on the IYCSTH deluxe.
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Post by frozenhero on Apr 5, 2017 13:29:04 GMT
can't beat a bit of mid-song cosmicity.... That Beatle-y middle section has always been the only interesting part of the song in my ears, and quite obviously a nod back to the beginning. A shame it ended up in such an altogether boring song...
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Post by frozenhero on Apr 5, 2017 13:25:17 GMT
Ok then, lets take Softer Ride (which is still a good song) but simply because it has been over used by CQ as part of their own set when they should have been taking songs from their own back catalogue. Yes, by those means I should have chosen Caroline and ROLD and maybe 4500X as well in part, but these are Live epics from the hey-day and exempt from choice. Claudie is also kept because its a country song given great treatment by the four and featured albeit briefly in the set in the mid 70's
I've kept AIBN because it represents one of very few songs in the AQ repertoire that had an imaginative arrangement applied to it. I find the arrangement of Claudie too dense for the song it is... it's a light country song, doesn't need heavy guitars.
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Post by frozenhero on Apr 5, 2017 13:22:19 GMT
Claudie + And It's Better Now are good as songs but seem weighed down by the arrangements - I prefer the acoustic versions of both songs.
And Blue-Eyed Lady has never excited me much, so that's my 3rd vote.
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Post by frozenhero on Apr 5, 2017 9:48:22 GMT
I also like Dreamin', but it's a very taboo song to like... Strange it was written in the early 70's as Naughty Girl and shoved to the side until Army, and then renamed Dreamin' because of the whole thing with Alan I find it pretty difficult to believe that it was written in the early 70's. Not because i'm post-85-phobic or even dislike their 80's stuff, but it's songwriting style is nothing like anything from the 70's. I don't mean the style of the music obviously, just the melody and lyrics. Maybe the person who said this (from an interview?) or typed it, meant to say/write 80's.....early 80's i could certainly believe. Having said that, i don't like it anyway. No, from what I heard it was the very first song Francis and Bernie wrote together. Given that they knew each other before IYCSTH and Bernie already wrote "A Year" with Alan, I don't think the information is incorrect. It does, in fact, confirm two things: 1) Francis always had that ultra-poppy element in him, it just didn't show up so much on the 70s albums 2) Bernie's co-writes are usually a lot poppier than Bob's
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