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Post by gav on Nov 2, 2019 18:47:32 GMT
You need to open the BFY thread btw! Yea will do right now mate, sorry. I have been having a pretty busy day. But next time I will open it first thing in my morning Sorry, was just being a bit cheeky! Your busy day comes first.
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Post by gav on Nov 1, 2019 18:45:31 GMT
I think there is a misconception, often stated by Rossi, that Frantic Four fans are some sort of death metal, hard rock fans only, holding up their hands in a sign of horns etc., This fails to recognise that people like myself came to Quo because they had melody, light and shade, rock and country all cooked within a 12 bar blues based music that does have a special heaviness, but not metal rock by any stretch of the imagination. Whilst I certainly place myself on the pre 1977 side of Quo this is because of what i perceived to be a drop in quality/change of what happened in 1977 and thereafter, and also with the post Quo band that continues today. In the past 30+ years there have only a few songs that I thought were ok. Not so with the Frantic Four. In the Frantic Four period I also really, really liked the softer side such as Fine Fine Fine, And Its Better Now, Lonely Man, Unspoken Words, A Year, All The Reasons (all those 3 of one 'heavy period album!!!) Where I am, Claudie, Blue For You, etc., Personally if you viewed my record collection, and look at what I listen to, there is a broad, eclectic taste that would defy the view of all the old Quo heads having their heads stuck in the sand. This includes for myself interest in all sorts of folk music, some country, punk, classic and opera! Of course classic period Quo is still a big part. If the band reformed after the split had have a different quality I may have followed it but for myself it didn't, it became bland and mediocre relying almost totally on playing the Frantic Four music to survive. This is not to say that those that like it are wrong or have a poor taste. It is just different tastes. It was however a new and different band. I don't nearly always agree with your views on things and I don't mean that in a wrong way. It's just different opinions and I prefer to debate at times about differing opinions in a reasonable and respectful way. In this message from you I actually do read quite a lot that I do agree with. That whole point about misconceptions about Quofans I totally agree with. I have met Quofans with both very smaal and very broad tastes in music. Mine has always been very broad and only has become more broad through the years. it ranges from classical to Melodic Death metal to punkrock to progressive to synthesizer music and most things in between. But Quo was and is still a big part of it all as well for me. I can also agree that the earlier abums from them were the best of all, difference is that for me the best period goes from 1970 to 1982 and that there are a few later albums I do enjoy (QPQ, UTI, TPAOY and most of all Backbone. The rest is pretty much forgettable for me. I can also agree that the softer side of them was best represented by songs like the obnes you mentioned like A year, Claudie, etc... they sound different from the easier songs nowadays. Something like MT hasn't got a patch on Claudie or such. However, as said I do enjoy some of the later work in it's own way. And Backbone may not be another NTL or earlier of course, but for me it stands miles above junk like AC, PR and such ! As you said, just different taste. Or maybe a matter of being more open to it or not ? I don;t really know. You need to open the BFY thread btw!
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Post by gav on Nov 1, 2019 18:42:26 GMT
I think the likes of Mountain Lady, whilst a decent song, kind of flies in the face of what Alan keeps saying what Status Quo is about for him, if that makes sense. Not that I speak for Alan but, I often got the impression he knew what the fans wanted. Songs like A Year, Lonely Man, Unspoken Words, And It's Better Now, Living On An Island, Who Am I...Whilst they're more pop, slow and emotive, they're not twee! They're meaningful and have an emotion and feeling. Where as Win Or Lose, MT, Tommy, Address Book, 1000 Years, Speechless are genuinely appalling and unless you are in that market, you don't go down that road. You can even hear that Francis was forcefully trying to write those certain songs, instead of letting the songs write themselves* *Alan is just as guilty of that...Big Man ffs. Actrocious stuff! When you suddenly stop developing ideas as a group, you lose the feel literally overnight i guess. They lost the 4-way chemistry. Alan began writing on his own a lot more in Australia, Francis went off with Bernie, and Rick started doing more with Bob as a result. Rick was the one who hung on to the magic ingredient....Bob! For a while, at least. Francis certainly lost the feeling. He literally numbed himself, with drugs, and it shows in the music i think. He never really got it back i don't think. He altered himself. Went beyond the point of no return. From what i read in his book, he is essentially very, very insecure. The band's enormous success almost destroyed him to the point of when he worked the self destruction out of his system, he was a changed guy. For many years i think he hid behind the persona of a nice-melody-factory, less feeling, more pop. Which is why when he produces a passionate or ferocious solo these days, it really makes you stand up and be attentive. He hides behind a lot of stuff. Anyway, totally digressed there. Sorry Francis!
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Post by gav on Oct 23, 2019 23:18:41 GMT
Sounds like the Brits Medley that was used as a B-side to one of the RTYD singles stuck on the end, or the second half of it at least.
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Post by gav on Oct 19, 2019 19:28:19 GMT
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Post by gav on Oct 19, 2019 18:13:52 GMT
[br Quite simply a brilliant picture. I have not seen it before! When they were moving on stage like this, that was the REAL Quo.. The hokey quokey.
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Post by gav on Oct 18, 2019 11:46:15 GMT
Do you know what other tracks were recorded in that session, and if Keep Me Guessing was completely re-recorded by the new line up, or just Rhino and Jeff (and Andy?) replacing parts/overdubbing?
Trying to think of other tracks around the time that also had saxophone...
Don't Give It Up is the only one that comes to mind, but as that's said to be a track from an old band of Rhino's, guessing it wouldn't have been known to Quo at the time of these sessions, unless he and Rick had already met by this time and Rick introduced the Live Aid line up to the song.
All conjecture.
No too sure what other tracks were recorded... I'm sure I've mentioned another track in a separate thread. Don't Give It Up originates from Rick solo album and Rossi never played on it, however I'm sure he get's credited on the single and every other release of it Of course, yeah, had momentarily forgotten Don't Give It Up was one from Rick's solo sessions. That narrows it down a bit then.
Lonely?
Often wonder what the deal is with Rossi getting credit on tracks that were recorded for Rick's solo project that he never played on. He gets credit on Heartburn, Late Last Night, and Don't Give It Up, but not on Long Legged Girls. He also gets a credit on Keep Me Guessing which is an old song of Rick and Bob's from the 70's. If there's some sort of gentleman's agreement between him and Parfitt, then it's not extended beyond the ITAN album when his song That's Alright is resurrected from his own solo sessions and Rick doesn't get a credit on that.
Was it simply a case of the two of them being out of it, Rossi offering Parfitt a compromise to the effect of...we don't have enough material so you get the most exposure with your solo stuff put out as Quo on the condition that i get a credit here and there cos i'm skint like you and have even less material to put on the album......? And Rick could sympathise.
Or was Rossi being a bit more stubborn to the effect of....i don't even really want to do Quo anymore so give me more credit than i actually deserve?
Who knows.
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Post by gav on Oct 18, 2019 11:28:34 GMT
Judging songs on their own merit vs Judging songs with an agenda.
Interesting topic if anyone wants to take it that way. Sort of objective versus subjective.
Who can really claim to be wholly one or t'other?
Bit of a minefield as a Quo fan. A lot of emotions in there!
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Post by gav on Oct 17, 2019 16:22:33 GMT
At the time they only released the Wanderer from that session with Cadillac Ranch appearing years down the line on the 4 disc set from Universal. As far as I know they recorded a few other tracks, one of which being Keep Me Guessing. I'll have to find the clip from the convention in early 85 where they mention the new album being in the works. Cheers
Do you know what other tracks were recorded in that session, and if Keep Me Guessing was completely re-recorded by the new line up, or just Rhino and Jeff (and Andy?) replacing parts/overdubbing?
Trying to think of other tracks around the time that also had saxophone...
Don't Give It Up is the only one that comes to mind, but as that's said to be a track from an old band of Rhino's, guessing it wouldn't have been known to Quo at the time of these sessions, unless he and Rick had already met by this time and Rick introduced the Live Aid line up to the song.
All conjecture.
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Post by gav on Oct 17, 2019 9:13:52 GMT
I'm suprised Alan has never brought up the fact that he wasn't on the final recording. Surely he would have said something like "this isn't a Status Quo recording" or "this was the beginning of them trying to oust me from the band".
It makes me a little sceptical about whether it was Roger Glover on there at all as it sounds like Alan's playing to me and he mimes it well on the video.
Maybe he laid down a guide bass and Glover copied it, and then Alan maybe didn't notice that Glover had done so?
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Post by gav on Oct 16, 2019 21:59:11 GMT
The melody is just a bit airy-fairy and hasn't much clout to my ears. A very stoned idea i reckon! Then came Paper Plane!
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Post by gav on Oct 15, 2019 16:46:52 GMT
It must have been a choice between which Richie song fitted in with the main album running order. Maybe FTM didn't sit either side of......anything, for whatever reason.
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Post by gav on Oct 11, 2019 21:27:24 GMT
I really love the cover of 'When My Mind is Not Live' and also love this. Great sound and feel. They've really paid attention to the detail and little nuances. Proper 60's boffins! I might even prefer her version of WMMINL.
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Post by gav on Oct 11, 2019 21:25:55 GMT
I think when you hear these old 60s Quo tracks sung by someone else you realise how good they were even then as songsmiths. I like those covers. Is she English? French? She is French, living in London.
You're right. I think this song was written by Alan and Bob.
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Post by gav on Oct 11, 2019 14:08:31 GMT
Released today on her new album "Four":
She's previously done an early Quo cover on another album:
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