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Post by gentlemanjoe on Nov 2, 2017 21:35:55 GMT
If Rossi had the moral and the guts to announce that "Status Quo is over for ever, however I like touring / the money so bad that I have decided to start a new band called Francis Rossi's Quo"and do my own versions of the old classics" I would even concider go see them/him if they would play at some club nearby. But as long he is pretending that his current band actually is Status Quo I wouldn't get near them; even if I got paid to do it! Sums up my thoughts exactly. I should try putting this on the 'other' caberet Quo site..😁😁, they'd have kittens..
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Post by curiousgirl on Nov 2, 2017 21:43:52 GMT
I think the FRQuo or FRSQ is a great idea. My first thought was that they wouldn't go for it due to marketing. But on reflection if FR is still the big draw then why not?
But... if they are looking to maintain a 'SQ brand' after FR retires... they won't do it.
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Post by gentlemanjoe on Nov 2, 2017 22:18:26 GMT
Even Jeff Lynne has been forced to change ELO name.
Its been a joke for over last 20 years.
Look at Lynyrd Skynyrd/Jethro Tull/10cc/Sweet etc. And Queen were never Queen after Mercury died
1 original member left and they get ro tour as the original band.
What a joke, it's 'Franchise rock' and all about ££££££. And should be stopped.
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Post by vivfromcov on Nov 2, 2017 22:59:19 GMT
Had Rick parfitt not died last year? Would the bad feeling toward Rossi exist. Hypothetical question I know. But in my eyes it's getting way over the top. Yes.... because the bad feeling was there anyway because Rick was unable to carry on touring and CQ carried on without him (even though he'd apparently given his blessing). It's debatable whether it was fair enough to finish the LNOTE tour and honour comittments etc. but it's highly likely that the decision to extend it into 2017 would still have been made, due to the realisation that they could carry on with Richie for longer. So in the welcome scenario of Rick still being with us, I'm sure there would have still been ill feeling towards Francis because of his U turn on the electric touring. Although Francis has been saying for years he wants to retire, I think he will carry on for as long as he can. He obviously is the boss and will do it for as long as there is a demand.... I do think that the fanbase for the past few years has been mixed between old diehard fans, more recent die hard fans, lapsed and returned fans, casual greatest hits fans and Mr and Mrs Smith (once every couple of years fans). At the time of the reunions, I disagreed with the view that the audiences were made up largely of fans returning for the first time in 30 years (maybe a significant amount were, but the majority I believe were fans that had seen the current band live). However, the support for CQ has definitely lessened since and some of the comments made by Francis has not helped to keep fans onside.
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Post by Victor on Nov 2, 2017 23:06:34 GMT
I have loved the different lineups up until 2012... Then the reunion came, and boy did I fall in love again...... Then Loafer man spoketh... and the farce became painful. So... My opinion is that Loafer Man and management has brought the animosity upon themselves, via the countless times that the words has fallen out of the insecure's little bread fork.. without any connection between mouth and brain... Geeee... It could have been so different. But this way seems to be OK with a lot of people, so I must be in the wrong, right? If they changed the name now, they would sink into oblivion.... Quo is a name that many recognize, Loafer Man Band? Nope.... Couldn’t agree more. I’ve previously defended CQ and indeed enjoyed a lot of the music. It it was a complete privilege however to go to Hammersmith in both 13 and 14 and witness the magic on stage before me. I still enjoy a lot of CQ stuff and I thought the last real offering “QPQ” was an excellent album. I am now of the opinion that the latest lineup is as far removed from the original as it can be. Thank gawd I went to those Hammy gigs. Special, really special memories.. I only was able to get to one reunion gig, but that was enough to change my mind completely as well
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Post by vivfromcov on Nov 2, 2017 23:23:46 GMT
Even Jeff Lynne has been forced to change ELO name. Its been a joke for over last 20 years. Look at Lynyrd Skynyrd/Jethro Tull/10cc/Sweet etc. And Queen were never Queen after Mercury died 1 original member left and they get ro tour as the original band. What a joke, it's 'Franchise rock' and all about ££££££. And should be stopped. The trouble is, it's down to supply and demand. If there is an audience willing to pay, then they will do it. And who are we to say they shouldn't? If it brings happiness to people why not? (Just playing devil's advocate! ) It's the same with AC/DC... Maybe Angus should go out under his own name from now on, but if he doesn't, I would still go and see him in whatever current accadacca line up because I love his playing so much. I wish I still had the same feeling about Francis.
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Post by azza200 on Nov 2, 2017 23:41:32 GMT
Take last year at Coachella Desert Trip that was Francise Rock all the major classic rock artists/bands were there The Rolling Stones, Paul McCartney, Roger Waters, Bob Dylan, Neil Young and The Who all who have been playing non stop for over 50 years etc Francise Rock is big money especially for classic rock in general. Take the reunion shows they could of been onto something with the original line up yet cause of Rossi's hate for nostalgia how how Panto Quo is better then the classic line hence why SQ are a joke band in the music industry. www.billboard.com/articles/news/7364705/desert-trip-concert-mccartney-rolling-stones-sold-out
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Post by unspokenwords on Nov 3, 2017 10:13:26 GMT
Take last year at Coachella Desert Trip that was Francise Rock all the major classic rock artists/bands were there The Rolling Stones, Paul McCartney, Roger Waters, Bob Dylan, Neil Young and The Who all who have been playing non stop for over 50 years etc Francise Rock is big money especially for classic rock in general. Take the reunion shows they could of been onto something with the original line up yet cause of Rossi's hate for nostalgia how how Panto Quo is better then the classic line hence why SQ are a joke band in the music industry. www.billboard.com/articles/news/7364705/desert-trip-concert-mccartney-rolling-stones-sold-outFully agree. These acts retained their credibility, honour their back catalogue and developed as artists (although Dylan can some times be strange standing obscurely on the stage, not interacting on some nights with the audience and playing obscure tracks (which is in my opinion great) and not what everyone necessarily wants). Francis Rossi took the former Status Quo band down a blind alley of mediocrity only surviving by playing the music of the 1970's Quo that he openly hates with a passion, does not rate and thinks only those soft in the head would like, but he continues to sell to a duped public. He didn't realise that his talent only shone when he was supported by Parfitt, Lancaster and Coghlan as a unit and outside of this he was exposed as not really that strong a talent. Status Quo could have been on such a bill board and up with such acts in status (and earning the vast amount of money that such concepts bring) but instead they are relegated to a third division tribute act struggling to play small local theatres, along with other nostalgic acts, back to where they were in the 1960's. It is poetic justice really. All because of the ego of one deluded man. (Note: it is Paul Mc Cartney, not trying to present himself as 'The Beatles' and Roger Waters, not presenting himself as 'Pink Floyd')
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Post by curiousgirl on Nov 3, 2017 10:29:13 GMT
I'd like to agree with you unspokenwords but sadly, your analysis is too simplistic for the bigger picture.
As an early fan during the height of their fame, it always puzzled me that even with those big hits - singles/albums, Quo were a joke, not a cool band to like. I had no friends who were Quo fans. And apart from best friend, I kept my love of Quo to myself.
Would Quo as they were in 76, have survived not only punk - which I agree they had punk like songs - but the whole synth, new romantic sound of the 80s?
They weren't respected enough by the rock scene to continue in that groove, is my impression. They were seen more like Slade. A bit of a laugh even then.
Love him or hate him, the record company believed it was Francis who drew the audiences. And as they're in business to make money, they probably knew what they were talking about, back then.
Where I do agree is that Francis' musical originality isn't that strong. He doesn't have a vision or style beyond Quo which is why he was never able to branch out with a solo career. But then neither did the other 3 or they would have been stars in their own right. It was the chemistry of the 4 of them together, for us lovers of their 70s sound, that was special. Would that have survived to go on the legacy tours listed above? (If they hadn't fallen out?). I don't know.
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Post by Mrs Flittersnoop on Nov 3, 2017 10:41:50 GMT
Had Rick parfitt not died last year? Would the bad feeling toward Rossi exist. Hypothetical question I know. But in my eyes it's getting way over the top. I agree it is harsh. But for me, its the total lack of respect for Rick's memory at gigs and no mention of a memorial beyond these 2 tracks. He also lost my respect for the insults to fans who enjoyed the reunion gigs. I feel very sad rather than angry. Francis had been under attack for years, sometimes for good reason, sometimes for trivial reasons. But now I think he has lost touch. He's been bullied as well as criticised fairly, so he is going to be hardened against criticism, and I don't require him to change the band name. They can play Mariarchi if they like. People need to check these things out before they buy tickets. I have missed things because I got out of touch, but that's nobody's fault but mine. The band is a working unit, not a brand for what it did in 1968 or 1971 or 1976. And I don't think he truly did insult the fans who went to the reunion gigs - I've said so before - but I don't think he respected them either. I think he has lost touch. It wouldn't cost him much to give a nod to the people who loved his older music. I hope he's alright.
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Post by Mrs Flittersnoop on Nov 3, 2017 10:52:32 GMT
Even Jeff Lynne has been forced to change ELO name. Its been a joke for over last 20 years. Look at Lynyrd Skynyrd/Jethro Tull/10cc/Sweet etc. And Queen were never Queen after Mercury died 1 original member left and they get ro tour as the original band. What a joke, it's 'Franchise rock' and all about ££££££. And should be stopped. The trouble is, it's down to supply and demand. If there is an audience willing to pay, then they will do it. And who are we to say they shouldn't? If it brings happiness to people why not? (Just playing devil's advocate! ) It's the same with AC/DC... Maybe Angus should go out under his own name from now on, but if he doesn't, I would still go and see him in whatever current accadacca line up because I love his playing so much. I wish I still had the same feeling about Francis. There is a dart to the heart, Viv. Whatever Francis still does right, he's backed off his best guitar playing and that made a difference.
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Post by Mrs Flittersnoop on Nov 3, 2017 11:08:29 GMT
Take last year at Coachella Desert Trip that was Francise Rock all the major classic rock artists/bands were there The Rolling Stones, Paul McCartney, Roger Waters, Bob Dylan, Neil Young and The Who all who have been playing non stop for over 50 years etc Francise Rock is big money especially for classic rock in general. Take the reunion shows they could of been onto something with the original line up yet cause of Rossi's hate for nostalgia how how Panto Quo is better then the classic line hence why SQ are a joke band in the music industry. www.billboard.com/articles/news/7364705/desert-trip-concert-mccartney-rolling-stones-sold-out There's nothing there about Quo, and though I am not in it, I very much doubt Quo are a "joke band in the music industry". In many ways, "Quo" now are doing everything right, the only thing they are doing wrong is their leader is being too obviously annoyed by some of his former fans. Quo are a joke band to the press and many of the public. They always have been. Oddly, the only time they weren't a joke band was when they were wearing shiny Carnaby Street jackets and singing POMM on TOTP. Then they "went denim" and someone who didn't like pub rock decided they were a joke band with joke fans who wore double denim and patches and headbanged instead of sitting cross legged and nodding. And played songs instead of 10 min guitar solos. That image has never gone away. Though where they get some real respect now, is in some of the more committed music press.
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Post by Whoppa Choppa on Nov 3, 2017 15:19:22 GMT
Francis Rossi didn't realise that his talent only shone when he was supported by Parfitt, Lancaster and Coghlan as a unit and outside of this he was exposed as not really that strong a talent. unspokenwordsThis, very well put! This is the essence of the whole Quo-embroilment, boiled down to the core thing. Might be "post of the year", methinks.
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Post by gentlemanjoe on Nov 3, 2017 16:38:30 GMT
Take last year at Coachella Desert Trip that was Francise Rock all the major classic rock artists/bands were there The Rolling Stones, Paul McCartney, Roger Waters, Bob Dylan, Neil Young and The Who all who have been playing non stop for over 50 years etc Francise Rock is big money especially for classic rock in general. Take the reunion shows they could of been onto something with the original line up yet cause of Rossi's hate for nostalgia how how Panto Quo is better then the classic line hence why SQ are a joke band in the music industry. www.billboard.com/articles/news/7364705/desert-trip-concert-mccartney-rolling-stones-sold-outSeems a bi harsh on Paul McCartney?, he's not going out there calling himself the Beatles, and half his show is McCartney/Wings songs, and its a great show. I would agree about the Who, in my opinion as soon as John Entwhistle died that should have been it.
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Post by clonesydney on Nov 3, 2017 17:35:19 GMT
Take last year at Coachella Desert Trip that was Francise Rock all the major classic rock artists/bands were there The Rolling Stones, Paul McCartney, Roger Waters, Bob Dylan, Neil Young and The Who all who have been playing non stop for over 50 years etc Francise Rock is big money especially for classic rock in general. Take the reunion shows they could of been onto something with the original line up yet cause of Rossi's hate for nostalgia how how Panto Quo is better then the classic line hence why SQ are a joke band in the music industry. www.billboard.com/articles/news/7364705/desert-trip-concert-mccartney-rolling-stones-sold-out There's nothing there about Quo, and though I am not in it, I very much doubt Quo are a "joke band in the music industry". In many ways, "Quo" now are doing everything right, the only thing they are doing wrong is their leader is being too obviously annoyed by some of his former fans. Quo are a joke band to the press and many of the public. They always have been. Oddly, the only time they weren't a joke band was when they were wearing shiny Carnaby Street jackets and singing POMM on TOTP. Then they "went denim" and someone who didn't like pub rock decided they were a joke band with joke fans who wore double denim and patches and headbanged instead of sitting cross legged and nodding. And played songs instead of 10 min guitar solos. That image has never gone away. Though where they get some real respect now, is in some of the more committed music press. They weren't a joke band in the 70's at all, they had at least as many admirers in the the music press as detractors , and their passionate following hardly thought they were a joke. They're definitely a joke now though and a pretty bad one at that...
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