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Post by freewilly on Jul 31, 2017 10:30:05 GMT
Btw, he also told a lie about Rick. He said that All The Reasons is a great song and Rick's singing on it is amazing. He said he wanted to put it into the setlist for the Aquostic gigs but, Rick refused and wouldn't play it or sing it........... All The Reasons was performed and sung by Rick at the acoustic gigs..... Can't remember if it is or not, but, isn't that the track Rick was having a rough time singing but still fucking did it anyway while the rest sat there strumming away and not bothering to help him out? Best thing about the reunion tours was having Alan back... Whenever Rick was having a hard time, Alan would help him out Yep.
Watch the Dublin DVD. During the outro to BFM, Alan helped Rick out on the "say you need me parts"
Sounded great too
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Post by freewilly on Jul 31, 2017 10:36:14 GMT
Quite shocked tbh. Just seen this thread and can't quite believe it. I shouldn't be shocked, but I am. I never thought Francis stupid. And I don't think he has been - until recent years. He's become blind to the obvious. I can only assume that he has 100% yes-men around him so that his blindness unchallenged. And wtf is Porter thinking of? What good can come of slagging off rock and the bands rock past to a rock magazine? Does he think all exposure is good exposure? It certainly ain't. God, what other artist pisses off his loyal fans like this? Is he hurt that we don't see him as Quo by himself, so he's hurting us back? Wtf?? God, those reunion gigs piss over everything Quo have done since live aid. Somewhere deep within he knows that, I sincerely believe he must do. He's being a fool. If and when the time comes he realises it, there wont be enough goodwill left for the hardcore fans to take an interest. He's blown it. He's now resigned to a sad end to his career of diminishing returns, worsening atmospheres and next to no hardcore fans. He'll make good money over the next few years but it clearly won't bring him happiness, even though it appears to be the only thing that interests him. I have no right to expect better - but it's not a great feeling when you are forced to accept that your childhood hero is a miserable sod that's only interested in money. I don't blame Rhino for feeling negativity towards the reunion. He'd not be human otherwise. And god, Francis could not have dreamed of having a more loyal and reliable bass player all these years. Francis has really let him down by saying what he said. What a band member says privately should stay private. Rhino could really slag Francis off if he wanted to, but he never will as long as he's in the band. What was that about, did Francis want some of the fanbases anger directed at someone else?? It should be water off a ducks back by now. But it isn't. It's quite clear that his comments continue to hurt and upset many of the very people that put him where he is. Sadly I think we can only expect him to get worse, as his embittered but ultra determined quest to remain a pop star continues... It will not have gone down well at all.
There is a line you just don't cross. And I'm not even talking about the fans
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Post by Quoincidence on Jul 31, 2017 10:38:35 GMT
Anyone have a copy of this? would love to shove it in the faces of every Rossi lover, as a nice bit of evidence
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Post by Victor on Jul 31, 2017 10:45:23 GMT
Quite shocked tbh. Just seen this thread and can't quite believe it. I shouldn't be shocked, but I am. I never thought Francis stupid. And I don't think he has been - until recent years. He's become blind to the obvious. I can only assume that he has 100% yes-men around him so that his blindness unchallenged. And wtf is Porter thinking of? What good can come of slagging off rock and the bands rock past to a rock magazine? Does he think all exposure is good exposure? It certainly ain't. God, what other artist pisses off his loyal fans like this? Is he hurt that we don't see him as Quo by himself, so he's hurting us back? Wtf?? God, those reunion gigs piss over everything Quo have done since live aid. Somewhere deep within he knows that, I sincerely believe he must do. He's being a fool. If and when the time comes he realises it, there wont be enough goodwill left for the hardcore fans to take an interest. He's blown it. He's now resigned to a sad end to his career of diminishing returns, worsening atmospheres and next to no hardcore fans. He'll make good money over the next few years but it clearly won't bring him happiness, even though it appears to be the only thing that interests him. I have no right to expect better - but it's not a great feeling when you are forced to accept that your childhood hero is a miserable sod that's only interested in money.
I don't blame Rhino for feeling negativity towards the reunion. He'd not be human otherwise. And god, Francis could not have dreamed of having a more loyal and reliable bass player all these years. Francis has really let him down by saying what he said. What a band member says privately should stay private. Rhino could really slag Francis off if he wanted to, but he never will as long as he's in the band. What was that about, did Francis want some of the fanbases anger directed at someone else?? It should be water off a ducks back by now. But it isn't. It's quite clear that his comments continue to hurt and upset many of the very people that put him where he is. Sadly I think we can only expect him to get worse, as his embittered but ultra determined quest to remain a pop star continues... You have no idea how much I recognize that feeling !
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Post by Mrs Flittersnoop on Jul 31, 2017 11:43:12 GMT
Anyone have a copy of this? would love to shove it in the faces of every Rossi lover, as a nice bit of evidence I think I qualify, as least for hardcore rant purposes, as a Rossi lover. See my version of the rant in Francis and Rick thread, 15 July 12.45. " hashtag Francis is being stupid." (If you think about it, all "Rossi lovers" will have seen it, so you can rest easy.) On reflection, he is behaving a bit oddly, even by the standard of recent years.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2017 14:24:16 GMT
I don't get this bizarre idea banded around on some circuits and 'biased presses' that Francis has somehow got a very difficult job of articulating the Porter marketing and product babble wish-list in terms of band actions and decisions. And that the 'poor guy' is in some kind of no-win situation because of it.
Its not a difficult or no-win task at all because he clearly endorses SP emphatically. Its not that he has been brainwashed by SP into product and customer babble - he completely buys into the showbiz marketing bullshit. Neither couldn't care less that it is toxic antithesis to the simple word of mouth philosophy to turn up and plug in rock boogie and if it makes some money its a bonus to the whole buzz of it all ethos. The whole point of that being, that they ended up making a lot anyway. The music was the buzz and the money so happened to be the reward.
The 'USP' now is as far from that now as it ever could be...
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Post by gav on Jul 31, 2017 17:22:04 GMT
Could it all just be a simple case of Francis being pissed off with HIMSELF for all the £££'s he put up his nose, and now he's bitter about it and others must suffer too?
I mean, the more money i have, the more i want. Or to put it another way, even if i'm quite flush but i lose a bit on a parking ticket or whatever, i immediately think how i can make that money back even though i'm financially fine.
Guess that makes me a bit of a miser too.
Is he just a bit bitter and uptight about all that, hence all the distancing himself from the FF etc..?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2017 17:28:21 GMT
Could it all just be a simple case of Francis being pissed off with HIMSELF for all the £££'s he put up his nose, and now he's bitter about it and others must suffer too? I mean, the more money i have, the more i want. Or to put it another way, even if i'm quite flush but i lose a bit on a parking ticket or whatever, i immediately think how i can make that money back even though i'm financially fine. Guess that makes me a bit of a miser too. Is he just a bit bitter and uptight about all that, hence all the distancing himself from the FF etc..? There is a case for this I agree and I did think of writing something like that in the post above to provide a bit of balance. But I wasn't in the mood for being generous so I didn't
More seriously, there is no doubt he regrets the excesses. He has proved that tenfold by cleaning up his act and living a healthy life. But it still doesn't square with the things he says and his general attitude to long standing loyal fans which are well beyond the boundaries of his usual contrariness.
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Post by freewilly on Jul 31, 2017 17:33:13 GMT
Could it all just be a simple case of Francis being pissed off with HIMSELF for all the £££'s he put up his nose, and now he's bitter about it and others must suffer too? I mean, the more money i have, the more i want. Or to put it another way, even if i'm quite flush but i lose a bit on a parking ticket or whatever, i immediately think how i can make that money back even though i'm financially fine. Guess that makes me a bit of a miser too. Is he just a bit bitter and uptight about all that, hence all the distancing himself from the FF etc..? Yes and no... I've read recent interviews with him where he says he loves Oh Baby, Unspoken Words, loves playing rock music loud through a Vox AC30 etc etc And then, you read something like this, where he says he hates rock, blues never influenced him, throws Alan, John and Rick under the bus and labels, what is his legacy, as shite. Personally, I have no time for people like that.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2017 18:58:02 GMT
I think that Simon and Francis, from the get-go, want to reach out to us with a holistic cradle-to-grave approach as product evangelists
There will be a press release soon asking for us to loop back, touch bases and react to their idea showers
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Post by rock on Aug 3, 2017 13:14:30 GMT
Is there any possibility that someone could kindly scan or upload the full article... I can't find the a copy anywhere near me (I live in rural Ireland... basically, medieval times lol)... I would be VERY grateful! :-)
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Post by freewilly on Aug 3, 2017 13:17:02 GMT
Is there any possibility that someone could kindly scan or upload the full article... I can't find the a copy anywhere near me (I live in rural Ireland... basically, medieval times lol)... I would be VERY grateful! :-) Get to an Easons ya lazy shite
I would but, I didn't buy it. I just stood in the shop and read it ha
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Post by rock on Aug 3, 2017 23:46:24 GMT
Is there any possibility that someone could kindly scan or upload the full article... I can't find the a copy anywhere near me (I live in rural Ireland... basically, medieval times lol)... I would be VERY grateful! :-) Get to an Easons ya lazy shite
I would but, I didn't buy it. I just stood in the shop and read it ha
HA! Nothing lazy about not wanting to drive for 3 1/2 hours! My local shop (40 mins drive) is a pub/newsagents/post office/undertaker all rolled up into one... and it's run by a women in her 80s LOL The only mags she has are out of date RTE guilds and a load of Irelands Own... you getting the picture of just how rural I mean!
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Post by gentlemanjoe on Aug 4, 2017 15:19:48 GMT
I don't take the man seriously, his and John Edwards prat tle is just white noise now.
He's constantly contradicting himself, was it not him that said he was well into Chicken Shack, and now he says he wasn't into the blues.
Lets be real, nobody cares what he says anyhow, the atmosphere and sales prove beyond any argument what a roaring success the FF tours were.
The man should think on before he opens his clack.
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Post by gav on Aug 7, 2017 20:06:42 GMT
Lets be real, nobody cares what he says anyhow People can pretend not to care, but how come he stirs up so much passionate debate if nobody cares? I suspect it might be deliberate. Or is he playing the "i'm just some unimportant guy in a band, but LOVE MEEEEEEE" card? As someone said on another thread, there are quite a few Francis Rossi's. But there's two of em right there, i'm sure. He maybe regrets not honing his craft in a more serious environment in the early days and being a studious blues muso. Instead he was touring the Mecca ballrooms on the back of a silly little song he claims to have written on the toilet. Maybe the whole Quo thing has shot him in the foot, all that self-depricating humour they took part in in order to survive. Fuck nose.
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