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Post by tqontq on Jul 11, 2017 1:03:22 GMT
Went into the shop and read it. It's in Planet Rock magazine. Will summarise... He's never been influenced by the blues. He's the boss of the band and always has been. He makes every decision. Him and Alan haven't spoken since Christmas because apparently Alan was insulting him. He said the FF shows were piss poor and the atmosphere was all for John and Alan nowt else. He says none of Alan, Rick or John ever wanted piano or keys but Rossi did. He says while there are a "couple of moments of magic" on them, the albums between Ma Kelly's and BFY are filled with mostly shit. He says Rick played up to rock star image and tried to be "macho" which Francis hates and said that at one point he thought Rick was after his position as number 1 in the band. He says the band now are better than ever and better than the FF He says he understands fans wanting the groove the FF made but said it took John 50 takes to get the groove and then he'd walk out. He says the reason for changing the tour to electric was because the fans demanded it and the acoustic thing was to accommodate Rick. He says been in Status Quo has held him back as musician and songwriter. Yowza. Did he say anything good about anything? You couldn't make this stuff up could you? The fans, past and current, would do well to just completely ignore everything he does now. That would be the only way to take him down as he obviously does not deserve any respect or further success. Above all though I snigger at the last comment that Quo has held him back as a musician. Without Quo he would be worthless. His musical songwriting has no appeal outside the Quo realm. None at all. Hey, i wish we all knew this about this him 30 odd years ago. |
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Post by kiwipom on Jul 11, 2017 1:29:32 GMT
All of Quo ( the real band, not the continuation ) had their faults
We had the supposedly grumpy unsmiling one – who was essential to the vibe but evidently never got his just rewards – and who we probably never quite worked out.
We had the vocal one – who was labeled as a complainer and vilified as the “opposing force”, but who was a key ingredient - and actually might have had the most honest view of the band and the highest integrity of all of them.
We had the likeable rogue – the engine who epitomised the rock star - but who privately seemed lost - and seemingly acted like an irresponsible spoiled child in a toy shop who squandered virtually everything that he had.
And then we had Francis - who has ( had ) talent, but his self-promoting ego, need for absolute control, apparently cold and ruthless pursuit of money and his often treacherous lack of real teamwork/empathy tends to suggest that as a person he has become a hollow shell. Many of us held him in very high esteem in Quo’s earlier years. Many around him probably did the same ( some for their own benefit? ) but it seemed to go to his head. Sadly most of us have probably come to the conclusion that he’s just an egotistical, mean, self-serving, pompous arse and a poor example of the human spirit.
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Post by derryquo on Jul 11, 2017 8:00:54 GMT
Went into the shop and read it. It's in Planet Rock magazine. Will summarise... He's never been influenced by the blues. He's the boss of the band and always has been. He makes every decision. Him and Alan haven't spoken since Christmas because apparently Alan was insulting him. He said the FF shows were piss poor and the atmosphere was all for John and Alan nowt else. He says none of Alan, Rick or John ever wanted piano or keys but Rossi did. He says while there are a "couple of moments of magic" on them, the albums between Ma Kelly's and BFY are filled with mostly shit. He says Rick played up to rock star image and tried to be "macho" which Francis hates and said that at one point he thought Rick was after his position as number 1 in the band. He says the band now are better than ever and better than the FF He says he understands fans wanting the groove the FF made but said it took John 50 takes to get the groove and then he'd walk out. He says the reason for changing the tour to electric was because the fans demanded it and the acoustic thing was to accommodate Rick. He says been in Status Quo has held him back as musician and songwriter. Yowza. Did he say anything good about anything? You couldn't make this stuff up could you? The fans, past and current, would do well to just completely ignore everything he does now. That would be the only way to take him down as he obviously does not deserve any respect or further success. Above all though I snigger at the last comment that Quo has held him back as a musician. Without Quo he would be worthless. His musical songwriting has no appeal outside the Quo realm. None at all. Hey, i wish we all knew this about this him 30 odd years ago. I do wish I knew about him 30 years ago. And if quo had have continued without him 30 years ago with Rick, Al and John, he would have had no further career. He is deluded if he thinks he can sing and write songs. 3 failed solo careers prove that. |
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Post by chrischi on Jul 11, 2017 8:02:26 GMT
Rossi rocks  Gotta Love Him!!! the Real Rocker |
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Post by derryquo on Jul 11, 2017 8:02:57 GMT
All of Quo ( the real band, not the continuation ) had their faults We had the supposedly grumpy unsmiling one – who was essential to the vibe but evidently never got his just rewards – and who we probably never quite worked out. We had the vocal one – who was labeled as a complainer and vilified as the “opposing force”, but who was a key ingredient - and actually might have had the most honest view of the band and the highest integrity of all of them. We had the likeable rogue – the engine who epitomised the rock star - but who privately seemed lost - and seemingly acted like an irresponsible spoiled child in a toy shop who squandered virtually everything that he had. And then we had Francis - who has ( had ) talent, but his self-promoting ego, need for absolute control, apparently cold and ruthless pursuit of money and his often treacherous lack of real teamwork/empathy tends to suggest that as a person he has become a hollow shell. Many of us held him in very high esteem in Quo’s earlier years. Many around him probably did the same ( some for their own benefit? ) but it seemed to go to his head. Sadly most of us have probably come to the conclusion that he’s just an egotistical, mean, self-serving, pompous arse and a poor example of the human spirit. Perfect analysis |
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Post by musiktruhe on Jul 11, 2017 8:12:10 GMT
Rossi rocks Gotta Love Him!!! the Real Rocker That´s right, I think King Of The Doghouse is the Back In Black Album of the 90´s. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2017 8:15:59 GMT
Rossi rocks Gotta Love Him!!! the Real Rocker You may think he's a rocker but Francis himself hates everything to do with rock. Says it's all macho posturing. |
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Post by curiousgirl on Jul 11, 2017 9:59:54 GMT
Okay, so I went out and bought a copy of the magazine. Its a rum experience reading the article. Partly because its full of wonderful photos of the 70s era, photos that many fans from those years will be familiar with. And that took me immediately back to my youth. And Francis' persona, is well documented too and that hasn't really changed either. So its very familiar, then baffling but his silliness also made me laugh.
I'd be interested to know if Francis or Quo's management had a say in what is printed because the journo makes mistakes too. He says in a linking paragraph that John and Alan quit which we know isn't true. So either he didn't do his research or Quo edited it. There is no need to do this as the Hello Quo documentary reveals what happened. But who knows.
Overall, it is upsetting on many levels. Such as reading how he rubbishes the classic era we love. I want to ask him, how can he keep playing that 'shit' for the public every year, if one of the only songs he rates is All the Reasons? (Oh, I forgot, for the dosh, silly me. sigh)
And yes, Francis, Rick did play ATR on the Aquostic tour, I witnessed it at the Roundhouse gig, along with 5,000 others.
Has Francis muddled this up with For You? I know Rick talked of doing this acoustically but I don't think it was played live. I looked the song up on youtube and his 2010 live version is okay but his voice is going. Maybe that is the song Rick didn't feel comfortable about singing.
He does say, "Quo did some great things musically in that early period - like those long protracted intros to songs." But alas, he undermines this by saying the audience were stoned. Its like dissing the reunion audience for only being happy to see John/Alan again when we know that isn't the case.
The mysterious point is about Rick and Andy's friendship. We all know they co-wrote WYW. And how upset Andy looked at the funeral. And Francis won't admit that Rick probably was happy for Andy to be in the band. Its the one question he avoids answering. Was he jealous of their friendship?
I concluded years ago, that the huge amount of ego needed to drive a talent to fame also needs a ruthless side where others, rightly or wrongly, are elbowed out of the way. Often driven by insecurity, jealousy, fear rather than necessity.
I'm less heartbroken than I would have been previously, as we've had a enough glimpses behind the scenes to understand more clearly what is going on. But it isn't easy reading and I wonder just how many fans this article is going to alienate? However, their current core fanbase probably don't read Planet Rock.
I'm not going let this spoil my enjoyment of all those shit 70s albums, Francis. Good luck with the rest of your career.
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Post by freewilly on Jul 11, 2017 10:12:03 GMT
Okay, so I went out and bought a copy of the magazine. Its a rum experience reading the article. Partly because its full of wonderful photos of the 70s era, photos that many fans from those years will be familiar with. And that took me immediately back to my youth. And Francis' persona, is well documented too and that hasn't really changed either. So its very familiar, then baffling but his silliness also made me laugh. I'd be interested to know if Francis or Quo's management had say a in what is printed because the journo makes mistakes too. He says in a linking paragraph that John and Alan quit which we know isn't true. So either he didn't do his research or Quo edited it. There is no need to do this as the Hello Quo documentary reveals what happened. But who knows. Overall, it is upsetting on many levels. Such as reading how he rubbishes the classic era we love. I want to ask him, how can he keep playing that 'shit' for the public every year, if one of the only songs he rates is All the Reasons? (Oh, I forgot, for the dosh, silly me. sigh) And yes, Francis, Rick did play ATR on the Aquostic tour, I witnessed it at the Roundhouse gig, along with 5,000 others. Has Francis muddled this up with For You? I know Rick talked of doing this acoustically but I don't think it was played live. I looked the song up on youtube and his 2010 live version is okay but his voice is going. Maybe that is the song Rick didn't feel comfortable about singing. He does say, "Quo did some great things musically in that early period - like those long protracted intros to songs." But alas, he undermines this by saying the audience were stoned. Its like dissing the reunion audience for only being happy to see John/Alan again when we know that isn't the case. The mysterious point is about Rick and Andy's friendship. We all know they co-wrote WYW. And how upset Andy looked at the funeral. And Francis won't admit that Rick probably was happy for Andy to be in the band. Its the one question he avoids answering. Was he jealous of their friendship? I concluded years ago, that the huge amount of ego needed to drive a talent to fame also needs a ruthless side where others, rightly or wrongly, are elbowed out of the way. Often driven by insecurity, jealousy, fear rather than necessity. I'm less heartbroken than I would have been previously, as we've had a enough glimpses behind the scenes to understand more clearly what is going on. But it isn't easy reading and I wonder just how many fans this article is going to alienate? However, their current core fanbase probably don't read Planet Rock. I'm not going let this spoil my enjoyment of all those shit 70s albums, Francis. Good luck with the rest of your career. Why is he giving an interview to Planet Rock if he hates Rock? |
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Post by curiousgirl on Jul 11, 2017 10:20:03 GMT
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Post by Gaz on Jul 11, 2017 10:31:03 GMT
Okay, so I went out and bought a copy of the magazine. Its a rum experience reading the article. Partly because its full of wonderful photos of the 70s era, photos that many fans from those years will be familiar with. And that took me immediately back to my youth. And Francis' persona, is well documented too and that hasn't really changed either. So its very familiar, then baffling but his silliness also made me laugh. I'd be interested to know if Francis or Quo's management had a say in what is printed because the journo makes mistakes too. He says in a linking paragraph that John and Alan quit which we know isn't true. So either he didn't do his research or Quo edited it. There is no need to do this as the Hello Quo documentary reveals what happened. But who knows. Overall, it is upsetting on many levels. Such as reading how he rubbishes the classic era we love. I want to ask him, how can he keep playing that 'shit' for the public every year, if one of the only songs he rates is All the Reasons? (Oh, I forgot, for the dosh, silly me. sigh) And yes, Francis, Rick did play ATR on the Aquostic tour, I witnessed it at the Roundhouse gig, along with 5,000 others. Has Francis muddled this up with For You? I know Rick talked of doing this acoustically but I don't think it was played live. I looked the song up on youtube and his 2010 live version is okay but his voice is going. Maybe that is the song Rick didn't feel comfortable about singing. He does say, "Quo did some great things musically in that early period - like those long protracted intros to songs." But alas, he undermines this by saying the audience were stoned. Its like dissing the reunion audience for only being happy to see John/Alan again when we know that isn't the case. The mysterious point is about Rick and Andy's friendship. We all know they co-wrote WYW. And how upset Andy looked at the funeral. And Francis won't admit that Rick probably was happy for Andy to be in the band. Its the one question he avoids answering. Was he jealous of their friendship? I concluded years ago, that the huge amount of ego needed to drive a talent to fame also needs a ruthless side where others, rightly or wrongly, are elbowed out of the way. Often driven by insecurity, jealousy, fear rather than necessity. I'm less heartbroken than I would have been previously, as we've had a enough glimpses behind the scenes to understand more clearly what is going on. But it isn't easy reading and I wonder just how many fans this article is going to alienate? However, their current core fanbase probably don't read Planet Rock. I'm not going let this spoil my enjoyment of all those shit 70s albums, Francis. Good luck with the rest of your career. A powerful post CG and I totally feel the last paragraph. That Quo magic....hmmmm... |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2017 10:40:58 GMT
All of Quo ( the real band, not the continuation ) had their faults We had the supposedly grumpy unsmiling one – who was essential to the vibe but evidently never got his just rewards – and who we probably never quite worked out. We had the vocal one – who was labeled as a complainer and vilified as the “opposing force”, but who was a key ingredient - and actually might have had the most honest view of the band and the highest integrity of all of them. We had the likeable rogue – the engine who epitomised the rock star - but who privately seemed lost - and seemingly acted like an irresponsible spoiled child in a toy shop who squandered virtually everything that he had. And then we had Francis - who has ( had ) talent, but his self-promoting ego, need for absolute control, apparently cold and ruthless pursuit of money and his often treacherous lack of real teamwork/empathy tends to suggest that as a person he has become a hollow shell. Many of us held him in very high esteem in Quo’s earlier years. Many around him probably did the same ( some for their own benefit? ) but it seemed to go to his head. Sadly most of us have probably come to the conclusion that he’s just an egotistical, mean, self-serving, pompous arse and a poor example of the human spirit. That's a highly accurate post. Its sad and a great disappointment in respect of the last mentioned member, but there is too much evidence to support it to ignore |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2017 10:42:18 GMT
He says Rick played up to rock star image and tried to be "macho" which Francis hates and said that at one point he thought Rick was after his position as number 1 in the band. Thinking about it, after ROLD and up until WYP, none of the singles had Francis' name on them. Most of them sung by Rick. In which case, Rick had every right to see himself as the main man. |
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Post by Gaz on Jul 11, 2017 11:02:44 GMT
All of Quo ( the real band, not the continuation ) had their faults We had the supposedly grumpy unsmiling one – who was essential to the vibe but evidently never got his just rewards – and who we probably never quite worked out. We had the vocal one – who was labeled as a complainer and vilified as the “opposing force”, but who was a key ingredient - and actually might have had the most honest view of the band and the highest integrity of all of them. We had the likeable rogue – the engine who epitomised the rock star - but who privately seemed lost - and seemingly acted like an irresponsible spoiled child in a toy shop who squandered virtually everything that he had. And then we had Francis - who has ( had ) talent, but his self-promoting ego, need for absolute control, apparently cold and ruthless pursuit of money and his often treacherous lack of real teamwork/empathy tends to suggest that as a person he has become a hollow shell. Many of us held him in very high esteem in Quo’s earlier years. Many around him probably did the same ( some for their own benefit? ) but it seemed to go to his head. Sadly most of us have probably come to the conclusion that he’s just an egotistical, mean, self-serving, pompous arse and a poor example of the human spirit. That's a highly accurate post. Its sad and a great disappointment in respect of the last mentioned member, but there is too much evidence to support it to ignore I wonder, catlady, how your 'cup of tea' dream would play out now.... |
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Post by 4th Chord on Jul 11, 2017 11:06:19 GMT
I think I'll just remember this version of Frame. Pretend the other version never happened. Yes, that's what I'll do.  |
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Gotta Love Him!!! the Real Rocker 
