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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2017 11:18:11 GMT
That's a highly accurate post. Its sad and a great disappointment in respect of the last mentioned member, but there is too much evidence to support it to ignore I wonder, catlady, how your 'cup of tea' dream would play out now.... Another outlet required for it
The tea had been made for the figure pictured just above ^^
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Post by freewilly on Jul 11, 2017 11:19:33 GMT
He says Rick played up to rock star image and tried to be "macho" which Francis hates and said that at one point he thought Rick was after his position as number 1 in the band. Thinking about it, after ROLD and up until WYP, none of the singles had Francis' name on them. Most of them sung by Rick. In which case, Rick had every right to see himself as the main man. There must have been some sort of argument....What was said was that after RAOTW, Rick said to Francis he was sick of being number 2 in the band and Rossi said he thought Rick was after his spot as number 1 in the band
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Post by freewilly on Jul 11, 2017 12:24:21 GMT
He also said that even though Alan came up with "some unique lines" Rhino is a far better bass player and John is always speeding up and slowing down.
That line about Alan is extremely disrespectful and wrong
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Post by Railroad17 on Jul 11, 2017 14:16:19 GMT
Here's a sneak preview of his interview.
"The jingle on my Dad's ice cream van was rubbish and his choc ices were just nostalgic shit" "I only took drugs because Alan,John and,what's his fucking name again?Forced me to" "On the 'live' album they changed my "Hello wankers" to "How are you then alright" "I tried to get the guard to shoot the others in Vienna but fcuking Lancaster clocked him first" "Alan said "Hello" at Christmas and I thought "Don't mention that nasty old 70's shit to me you bastard". "I killed my nice twin Mike in 1969" "I hated the attention that Alan and John got in 2013/14 so made sure they looked as silly as the audience with the "Hello Nuff and Hello Spud" routine.
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Post by Railroad17 on Jul 11, 2017 14:22:54 GMT
Wasn't a bloke called Bob Young involved somewhere?On another level the fans have done nothing to deserve this nonsense.
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Post by Railroad17 on Jul 11, 2017 14:26:41 GMT
Went into the shop and read it. It's in Planet Rock magazine. Will summarise... He's never been influenced by the blues. He's the boss of the band and always has been. He makes every decision. Him and Alan haven't spoken since Christmas because apparently Alan was insulting him. He said the FF shows were piss poor and the atmosphere was all for John and Alan nowt else. He says none of Alan, Rick or John ever wanted piano or keys but Rossi did. He says while there are a "couple of moments of magic" on them, the albums between Ma Kelly's and BFY are filled with mostly shit. He says Rick played up to rock star image and tried to be "macho" which Francis hates and said that at one point he thought Rick was after his position as number 1 in the band. He says the band now are better than ever and better than the FF He says he understands fans wanting the groove the FF made but said it took John 50 takes to get the groove and then he'd walk out. He says the reason for changing the tour to electric was because the fans demanded it and the acoustic thing was to accommodate Rick. He says been in Status Quo has held him back as musician and songwriter. "but said it took John 50 takes to get the groove and then he'd walk out." And it's been ssssssssssssssssooooooooooo fcuking great since he left...hasn't it? And this coming from the bloke who's had 2000 gigs to get the solo on ROLD right..and still can't manage it when loads of lads on line breeze through it.
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Post by vivfromcov on Jul 11, 2017 19:46:33 GMT
I think I'll just remember this version of Frame. Pretend the other version never happened. Yes, that's what I'll do. Only 1 part of the magic... Memories eh!?
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Post by Detroit on Jul 11, 2017 19:50:30 GMT
All of Quo ( the real band, not the continuation ) had their faults We had the supposedly grumpy unsmiling one – who was essential to the vibe but evidently never got his just rewards – and who we probably never quite worked out. We had the vocal one – who was labeled as a complainer and vilified as the “opposing force”, but who was a key ingredient - and actually might have had the most honest view of the band and the highest integrity of all of them. We had the likeable rogue – the engine who epitomised the rock star - but who privately seemed lost - and seemingly acted like an irresponsible spoiled child in a toy shop who squandered virtually everything that he had. And then we had Francis - who has ( had ) talent, but his self-promoting ego, need for absolute control, apparently cold and ruthless pursuit of money and his often treacherous lack of real teamwork/empathy tends to suggest that as a person he has become a hollow shell. Many of us held him in very high esteem in Quo’s earlier years. Many around him probably did the same ( some for their own benefit? ) but it seemed to go to his head. Sadly most of us have probably come to the conclusion that he’s just an egotistical, mean, self-serving, pompous arse and a poor example of the human spirit.Agree with all that, but glad he quit the ice cream business.
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Post by vivfromcov on Jul 11, 2017 20:37:26 GMT
Are these quotes correct? If so then the one about FF gigs being piss poor and the atmosphere at those gigs were for John and Alan. That statement alone just shows you just how out of touch he must be from what made him famous in the first place. From what I watched, on the DVDs , the fans were overjoyed with the fact that FF Quo were as one again and the music, the unmistakable chemistry, those 4 make is simply pure Quo. THAT chemistry is the essential part that the Quo Army grabbed hold of, back in the 70s, and took them all the way to UKs best rock band plus gave them number 1 albums. That chemistry gave them that very rare thing that all musos must strive for... 'your own sound'.... Quo had their own sound recognised mostly anywhere on the planet... oh that's Quo! No Francis the fans were there to watch the 4 of you guys together again to create that unmissable Quo noise ... and like it or lump it, it worked and you did a brilliant job of appearing not to revel in it. You definitely lifted to a far greater height than what you produce with the current version of Quo.....imo :-) Yes we were ecstatic to see and hear the four of them (and Bob) together again. But poor Francis just didn't get it. Even all that adulation wasn't good enough for him. He is so desperate for recognition of his current product but if he thinks rubbishing his past might work, he is deluded.
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Post by markquo on Jul 11, 2017 20:43:12 GMT
Are these quotes correct? If so then the one about FF gigs being piss poor and the atmosphere at those gigs were for John and Alan. That statement alone just shows you just how out of touch he must be from what made him famous in the first place. From what I watched, on the DVDs , the fans were overjoyed with the fact that FF Quo were as one again and the music, the unmistakable chemistry, those 4 make is simply pure Quo. THAT chemistry is the essential part that the Quo Army grabbed hold of, back in the 70s, and took them all the way to UKs best rock band plus gave them number 1 albums. That chemistry gave them that very rare thing that all musos must strive for... 'your own sound'.... Quo had their own sound recognised mostly anywhere on the planet... oh that's Quo! No Francis the fans were there to watch the 4 of you guys together again to create that unmissable Quo noise ... and like it or lump it, it worked and you did a brilliant job of appearing not to revel in it. You definitely lifted to a far greater height than what you produce with the current version of Quo.....imo :-) Yes we were ecstatic to see and hear the four of them (and Bob) together again. But poor Francis just didn't get it. Even all that adulation wasn't good enough for him. He is so desperate for recognition of his current product but if he thinks rubbishing his past might work, he is deluded. The trouble is his current product is a live album of old songs and before that a glorified greatest hits album in the form of Aquostic.So I'm unsure why he won't release new material and stop relying on the nostalgia that he so wants to distance himself from Cheers
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Post by powerage on Jul 11, 2017 22:53:32 GMT
I want to ask why Davy, but I also feel like I don't want to know! Maybe I'll take a leaf out of 4th chord's book and just pretend he was a top bloke up until I 1981 when John got the boot.
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Post by Quoincidence on Jul 31, 2017 2:14:49 GMT
"There's only one Francis Rossi"
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Post by Tʰᵉ Wᵃˡˡ Oᶠ Dᵉᵃᵗʰ on Jul 31, 2017 9:07:10 GMT
... Hey, i wish we all knew this about this him 30 odd years ago. Some of us did my friend.
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Post by Quoincidence on Jul 31, 2017 10:12:26 GMT
Btw, he also told a lie about Rick. He said that All The Reasons is a great song and Rick's singing on it is amazing. He said he wanted to put it into the setlist for the Aquostic gigs but, Rick refused and wouldn't play it or sing it........... All The Reasons was performed and sung by Rick at the acoustic gigs..... Can't remember if it is or not, but, isn't that the track Rick was having a rough time singing but still fucking did it anyway while the rest sat there strumming away and not bothering to help him out? Best thing about the reunion tours was having Alan back... Whenever Rick was having a hard time, Alan would help him out
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Post by MrWaistcoat on Jul 31, 2017 10:28:49 GMT
Quite shocked tbh. Just seen this thread and can't quite believe it. I shouldn't be shocked, but I am.
I never thought Francis stupid. And I don't think he has been - until recent years. He's become blind to the obvious. I can only assume that he has 100% yes-men around him so that his blindness unchallenged.
And wtf is Porter thinking of? What good can come of slagging off rock and the bands rock past to a rock magazine? Does he think all exposure is good exposure? It certainly ain't. God, what other artist pisses off his loyal fans like this? Is he hurt that we don't see him as Quo by himself, so he's hurting us back? Wtf?? God, those reunion gigs piss over everything Quo have done since live aid. Somewhere deep within he knows that, I sincerely believe he must do. He's being a fool. If and when the time comes he realises it, there wont be enough goodwill left for the hardcore fans to take an interest. He's blown it.
He's now resigned to a sad end to his career of diminishing returns, worsening atmospheres and next to no hardcore fans. He'll make good money over the next few years but it clearly won't bring him happiness, even though it appears to be the only thing that interests him. I have no right to expect better - but it's not a great feeling when you are forced to accept that your childhood hero is a miserable sod that's only interested in money.
I don't blame Rhino for feeling negativity towards the reunion. He'd not be human otherwise. And god, Francis could not have dreamed of having a more loyal and reliable bass player all these years. Francis has really let him down by saying what he said. What a band member says privately should stay private. Rhino could really slag Francis off if he wanted to, but he never will as long as he's in the band. What was that about, did Francis want some of the fanbases anger directed at someone else??
It should be water off a ducks back by now. But it isn't. It's quite clear that his comments continue to hurt and upset many of the very people that put him where he is. Sadly I think we can only expect him to get worse, as his embittered but ultra determined quest to remain a pop star continues...
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