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Post by cactuspete on May 4, 2017 16:30:43 GMT
I neither like nor dislike him.
But to so many fans the Ff reunion gigs were many many miles from appalling.
A stupid embittered view to my mind.
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Post by clonesydney on May 4, 2017 16:34:10 GMT
Interesting that back in 2013 Rhino said the reunion show he went to was "very very very good".
Now he says the band were "appalling".
He seems to forget that he also went to a show in 2014 which he said at the time was musically "much tighter and crisper".
The overriding impression I get is that he has become bitter, and can't resist lashing out indirectly against those he considers to be his detractors by dismissing those wonderful frantic four shows.
He should be above that.
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Post by QuocaQuola1 on May 4, 2017 16:45:42 GMT
The nickname Rhino says it all.
Big, goofy, no one's favourite.
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Post by Whoppa Choppa on May 4, 2017 18:14:18 GMT
Question for musicians - was it musically appalling? Sounded awesome to me! 2014 really quite slick, 2013 rough but ready....to my ears. I know a few chords... And as an article said about Rick: He struck the right 3 chords... Musically, at Hammersmith on friday the 15 of march 2013 : They were Status Quo. Listen to the +L+I+V+E+ album. Of course there were mistakes, speed changes, bum notes etc. BUT: cook it all down in the hypnotical melting pot that was the FF, and they delivered the most exciting thing Quo-wise for years. The CQ doesn't have the "it". It doesn't matter that the current bass player is technically better, or that they are sooo sleek and well-rehearsed. It ain't swaggin'... It ain't swingin', It ain't Status Quo. The soul is not there. IMO.
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2017 18:18:13 GMT
Hi All, It's a shame that a current CQ band member cannot do the decent thing and just accept FF fans for who they are, also that for the vast majority of those fans the FF are Quo simple! It saddens me that he gets a right verbal walloping from time to time but with this interview and others in a similar outpouring of insecurity.
By constantly inferring that CQ are the better band both in recorded material and Live it is bound to infuriate the hard core fan base, so the outcome of a backlash against him and anything he utters would be the predictable result. To me you can only compare both bands as Quo and Not Quo music wise as many have said CQ are basically alive because of the back catalogue of work by the FF.
I listen to all Quo without any prejudice taking what I want out of the music in all Quo incarnations, but if I was honest the only track that would jump out at me from CQ is 'ITAN' and possibly 'Red Sky'. Sadly they are not even in the same ball park as the tracks released by FF that's just being honest. As far as I am concerned there were a couple of comments that surprised me whether they are true or not is a matter of conjecture and only he and others involved know.
These are:- "Francis didn't want to work with Alan Lancaster" + "I wasn't going to let any shit go out" and as already mentioned "I was pleased they didn't ask FF for those gig's" .
The first quote is between Francis and Alan and should not be made public unless Francis and Alan had agreed, which to my knowledge has never been made public ? (Please correct if wrong). The second:- Well if that was the case how come the bands popularity nose dived big time nothing was ever as meorable to me like the output of FF. The third:- Was this simply because he knew the FF would blow CQ off the stage ? Also have a much greater audience appreciation of the FF material they produced and in turn this would mean that CQ would have to play their own poprock that CQ have produced over the years ? Also he knew the audience reaction would be totally different to both Quo's ?
While I don't have any grudges against 'Rhino' and like some of his own output I can't help feel he has come across as being a bit arrogant yet again, along with being a touch insecure about CQ's own output instead of letting it stand on it's own merit. Also in not accepting that output was nowhere in the same category as FF, I mean how can it possibly the two bands are completely different entity's just one playing a back catalogue that mad the band so famous...
Geoff.
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Post by freewilly on May 4, 2017 18:32:16 GMT
Rhino is imo a good guy and I like him. But he would need to be a very big man indeed to rave over the reunions. He left before the end, and I'm sure it must have hurt that the old line up can whip up such excitement, but his Quo never could or will. Question for musicians - was it musically appalling? Sounded awesome to me! 2014 really quite slick, 2013 rough but ready....to my ears. As for HT, a drink in the desert it was. I thought it was probably better than IYCSTH and RAOTW. I don't think that now, and RAOTW has improved due to the new release Musically, in 2013, Spud came in on Backwater a beat too early when I saw them, he missed the rolls on the toms during Oh Baby and he struggled with his in ear pieces. Alan hit a bum note during Railroad Francis messed up once or twice Rick made no mistakes It happens. I've seen Matt Letley, Rhino and Rick make an absolute bollocks of ROLD twice, when it came in from the quiet part However, saying all that, there was a magic in the air when they all played together, the FF. It had a sound and a vibe and a chemistry. It was Status Quo
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Post by Victor on May 4, 2017 18:54:09 GMT
Hi All, It's a shame that a current CQ band member cannot do the decent thing and just accept FF fans for who they are, also that for the vast majority of those fans the FF are Quo simple! It saddens me that he gets a right verbal walloping from time to time but with this interview and others in a similar outpouring of insecurity.
By constantly inferring that CQ are the better band both in recorded material and Live it is bound to infuriate the hard core fan base, so the outcome of a backlash against him and anything he utters would be the predictable result. To me you can only compare both bands as Quo and Not Quo music wise as many have said CQ are basically alive because of the back catalogue of work by the FF.
I listen to all Quo without any prejudice taking what I want out of the music in all Quo incarnations, but if I was honest the only track that would jump out at me from CQ is 'ITAN' and possibly 'Red Sky'. Sadly they are not even in the same ball park as the tracks released by FF that's just being honest. As far as I am concerned there were a couple of comments that surprised me whether they are true or not is a matter of conjecture and only he and others involved know.
These are:- "Francis didn't want to work with Alan Lancaster" + "I wasn't going to let any shit go out" and as already mentioned "I was pleased they didn't ask FF for those gig's" .
The first quote is between Francis and Alan and should not be made public unless Francis and Alan had agreed, which to my knowledge has never been made public ? (Please correct if wrong). The second:- Well if that was the case how come the bands popularity nose dived big time nothing was ever as meorable to me like the output of FF. The third:- Was this simply because he knew the FF would blow CQ off the stage ? Also have a much greater audience appreciation of the FF material they produced and in turn this would mean that CQ would have to play their own poprock that CQ have produced over the years ? Also he knew the audience reaction would be totally different to both Quo's ?
While I don't have any grudges against 'Rhino' and like some of his own output I can't help feel he has come across as being a bit arrogant yet again, along with being a touch insecure about CQ's own output instead of letting it stand on it's own merit. Also in not accepting that output was nowhere in the same category as FF, I mean how can it possibly the two bands are completely different entity's just one playing a back catalogue that mad the band so famous...
Geoff. Maybe it's cos I grew up with the FF...but I can't help feeling that saying something like CQ's input is better then the FF isn't just a bit arrogant. It is plain arrogant. Sorry. It shows a total disrespect for the band they happen to live off largely up to today. Shame...I thought he was better then that...
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Post by azza200 on May 4, 2017 18:56:27 GMT
Rhino if he had not been asked to join SQ post 85 he would of dis spared into obscurity a long time ago. He got a big break by joining Quo the same way as previously mentioned by someone earlier regarding Guy Pratt of Post Roger Waters Floyd. He does his bits on the records and solo stuff for David when he does tour doesnt speak down of the floyd fans as he himself is a floyd fan. He knows the score unlike Whino who is well a complete berk
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Post by accidentprone on May 4, 2017 18:59:52 GMT
I find his comments on the FF reunion tour insulting and offensive. It's one thing to say they were under rehearsed or a bit rough but to use words like "crap" and "appalling" is just ridiculous.
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Post by freewilly on May 4, 2017 19:16:04 GMT
I find his comments on the FF reunion tour insulting and offensive. It's one thing to say they were under rehearsed or a bit rough but to use words like "crap" and "appalling" is just ridiculous. Clown. To quote Rhino, when he was asked about a certain ex bass players.... I think he thinks he's much more important than he actually is
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2017 19:16:07 GMT
Hi All, Victor I was trying to be diplomatic matey...
Geoff.
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2017 19:25:31 GMT
Question for musicians - was it musically appalling? Sounded awesome to me! 2014 really quite slick, 2013 rough but ready....to my ears. I know a few chords... And as an article said about Rick: He struck the right 3 chords... Musically, at Hammersmith on friday the 15 of march 2013 : They were Status Quo. Listen to the +L+I+V+E+ album. Of course there were mistakes, speed changes, bum notes etc. BUT: cook it all down in the hypnotical melting pot that was the FF, and they delivered the most exciting thing Quo-wise for years. The CQ doesn't have the "it". It doesn't matter that the current bass player is technically better, or that they are sooo sleek and well-rehearsed. It ain't swaggin'... It ain't swingin', It ain't Status Quo. The soul is not there. IMO. Speaking as someone who has been gigging since the early 70s and who was at numerous gigs on both reunion tours all I can say is that they were under rehearsed for guys who hadn't played together in decades and that was down to Francis, nobody else. Yes there were a few bum notes, yes John was not as sharp as he was back in the day but he hasn't been touring constantly since he was ejected from the band but what he did have was that QUO SOUND, I didn't think it would be possible to be transported back so completely but from the first few seconds it was obvious the thing that had been missing from the sound was that drumming and that bassline. Admittedly the bassline didn't have the same pounding power but the sound was there and all credit to Alan for putting himself through the wringer night after night during those tours, knowing just what it meant to the audience. For those of us who saw Quo live pre RAOTW it reminded us that Quo weren't slick, they weren't polished but f**K me could they rock and on those reunion tours they still could. You could feel the tsunami wave of love sweeping up through the audience and onto the stage for those guys, the feeling was extraordinary and I can only imagine for Rhino galling to the ultimate degree that he never caused such affection. So to sum up - rough and ready? Yes. Rocking the roof off? Yes. If you want smooth and slick listen to the Rich/Edwards era output.
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2017 19:36:46 GMT
All I will say is if the FF reunion gigs were crap then what the hell do you call the current farce?
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Post by kursaal75 on May 4, 2017 19:52:47 GMT
All I will say is if the FF reunion gigs were crap then what the hell do you call the current farce? .....a well rehearsed piece of crap.
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Post by gav on May 4, 2017 19:59:21 GMT
I find his comments on the FF reunion tour insulting and offensive. It's one thing to say they were under rehearsed or a bit rough but to use words like "crap" and "appalling" is just ridiculous. Clown. To quote Rhino, when he was asked about a certain ex bass players.... I think he thinks he's much more important than he actually is Yep, the irony.
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