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Post by madtom on Dec 16, 2015 22:51:47 GMT
Yes, he's keeping CQ going but he was only one of the four people that made the reunion possible. Like Powerage says, he is the only one preventing more FF and I haven't heard one reason for his doing this that stands up to scrutiny IMO. He was the driving force behind the reunion and he helped Alan through the first tour. It was Francis who kept an eye on Alan to see how he was coping and it was Francis who adjusted his plectrum when necessary. Yep, although I'd still argue that he was only one of four or five (we shouldn't forget Bob as he had a double role as Alan & John's manager). Why was he more of a driving force than any of the others? Do any of us know what went on behind the scenes? I suspect that Bob had a much bigger role than he's credited for. John couldn't help with Alan's plectrum and Francis was obviously nearer to him than Rick. Rick was the one that virtually carried Alan off the stage one night if memory serves correctly. |
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Post by rockinon on Dec 16, 2015 22:52:50 GMT
Francis gets slated for being frank about money but have you never paused to think who needs money most? Rick is the one who frittered his money away and did the extra Rock meets Classic gigs, who has gone into the estate agency business and does dodgy deals for pans in car parks. I think we could probably do with our money most as opposed to give it to them for the cack the produce nowadays. Note the emphasis on our
Time Francis had a rethink and got the FF back on the road as a means of giving not only us older Quo fans what they want, but from what I can gather what most Quo fans want regardless of age. The classic line up, the No 1 Rock and Roll band in the land, will you welcome, STATUS QUOoooooooooooooooo |
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Post by madtom on Dec 16, 2015 22:54:24 GMT
No you're not dim, he owes nobody anything. But, I'd like to think that if I could bring an immense amount of pleasure to many thousands of people, have a great time doing it, earn myself a six figure sum and enable a couple of (comparatively) hard-up childhood friends to do the same, then I would. Who the feck are you talking to? him or me? I was talking to him  |
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Post by whoami on Dec 16, 2015 22:55:36 GMT
But frame did get red of spud and nuff.....thats the begining of the end?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2015 23:29:04 GMT
Some of the comments on here are just amazing, they really are.
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Post by rockinon on Dec 16, 2015 23:31:58 GMT
Some of the comments on here are just amazing, they really are. More amazing than yours thankfully |
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Post by MrWaistcoat on Dec 16, 2015 23:37:15 GMT
It's a mixed bag.
Some of the nastiness towards him is totally unfair (and at times makes me feel uncomfortable)
Some of it is pure bafflement (not critisism) because some of us find him hard to understand
Some of it is his seeming inability to understand what most of the fans can see. eg he says CQ are better live than FF. (but does he mean it??!)
Mostly the criticism is rooted in disappointment (even anger or bitterness) at where he took the band. Whether or not that is fair depends on your point of view...
He gets no thanks for the reunions happening, but all anger is directed at him for not wanting to do it again. Again, some of that is fair, some unfair, and some of it has been brought on by some of his own comments. Some of his interview comments (for someone so experienced) have become extremely unwise...
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2015 23:38:13 GMT
No, just because all the wee FF diehards get their y-fronts in a twist when they see him dressed smartly they feel the need to hurl slags at him for not wearing jeans in and a t-shirt. Just because he's in a rock band doesn't mean he needs to dress like he lives a rock 'n' roll lifestyle.
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Post by rockinon on Dec 16, 2015 23:43:38 GMT
No, just because all the wee FF diehards get their y-fronts in a twist when they see him dressed smartly they feel the need to hurl slags at him for not wearing jeans in and a t-shirt. Just because he's in a rock band doesn't mean he needs to dress like he lives a rock 'n' roll lifestyle. We have moved on about 30 yrs from the OP FFS |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2015 23:49:11 GMT
Yes. Just as the flak Rick gets is fair. Though there doesn't seem to be a love-in with him on here, so nobody cares when he gets it.
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Post by kachunk on Dec 16, 2015 23:59:53 GMT
Course it's fair. He presents a product, to the public and just like everything else, if people don't like it they will criticise it. Why does he get the brunt of it? Well, he's the boss. He makes the decisions He wanted this position so tough shit. It comes with the territory. U2, The Killers, Led Zeppelin, The Beatles etc are criticised equally (members wise)for their music because they are bands that stick together or were bands who stuck together. I don't see Bono coming out trying to get rid of Larry Mullen or Plant trying to shaft Page Quo went in the direction that he wanted from 1977 onwards and then basically hoodwinked the rest of the band about the reasons for the EOTR tour in 1984.He more or less constructively dismissed Alan from the band,so that if he had to return to Quo after a failed solo career,then there would be no obstacles to what he wanted.As you say,he wanted to be Head Honcho. Quo have produced a lot of poor and average material since 1986 and they have survived,particularly during the appalling 1992-2001 period,because of the goodwill of the general public and an ever dwindling band of loyal fans. It's all very well to say that the FF reunion gigs happened because he gave the OK for it,but in truth,he was the main protagonist for the collapse of the original line up.They all seemed unreasonable and stubborn but Francis has almost a religious zeal for it. |
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Post by muzz on Dec 17, 2015 0:03:40 GMT
No Rossi and there never would have even been a Quo. Our Ricky doesn't even cut it as a front man as much as I admire the bloke, he'd still be singing with two birds at Butlins,
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Post by colmfoley on Dec 17, 2015 1:30:43 GMT
Yes, he's keeping CQ going but he was only one of the four people that made the reunion possible. Like Powerage says, he is the only one preventing more FF and I haven't heard one reason for his doing this that stands up to scrutiny IMO. He was the driving force behind the reunion and he helped Alan through the first tour. It was Francis who kept an eye on Alan to see how he was coping and it was Francis who adjusted his plectrum when necessary. He was the driving force behind cowardly sacking Alan from the band, had he shown a bit more loyalty and respect for Alan in 85/86 there would/should have been no need for a STATUS QUO reunion tour, apart from getting Spud Back... However Rossi was brilliant on stage during the tours, though driving force he was not, he came across like a bear with a sore head in every interview before, during, and after both tours, and begrudgingly kept referring to CQ as if they were better (''it's a dam fine show/act'')-perhaps it is that but it's not the Rock Band that STATUS QUO once were/are with JOHN,RICK, ALAN and Rossi.. 
Critisism>of course it's fair, does he give a fuck, of course he doesn't Merry Christmas.. |
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Post by Whoppa Choppa on Dec 17, 2015 7:41:01 GMT
Francis gets slated for being frank about money but have you never paused to think who needs money most? Rick is the one who frittered his money away and did the extra Rock meets Classic gigs, who has gone into the estate agency business and does dodgy deals for pans in car parks. Rick has never spoken about the fans in a derogatory way... The greed factor is appalling, but not something I slate TAFKAR for. |
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Post by paradiseflats on Dec 17, 2015 7:57:56 GMT
Francis gets slated for being frank about money but have you never paused to think who needs money most? Rick is the one who frittered his money away and did the extra Rock meets Classic gigs, who has gone into the estate agency business and does dodgy deals for pans in car parks. If Rossi hadn't been a drug addict for years he would not have 'frittered' his money away. If you look at the asking price of Ricks gaff, in Spain he obviously didn't fritter it all away. If he chooses to have investments good look to him. Rossi has done more gigs outside the band than Rick. As for the reunion, Rossi saw cash. When his manager to,d him he was making less than with his version of Status Quo. He went back to his cash cow. As he doesn't have to share the pie equally. In all honesty I know Rick and Alan kept in touch after the reunion did Alan and Francis ? |
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