gerh
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Favourite Quo Album: 'Hello' [and 'Quo Live']
Favourite other bands.: Zappa, Kansas, Rush, Deep Purple, Yes, Richard Thompson, Horslips, Rory Gallagher, Thin Lizzy, Judas Priest etc etc. [ANYONE but Kiss!]
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Post by gerh on Aug 20, 2019 12:24:01 GMT
This, unfortunately, I agree with. His songs on 1982 and B2B were a proof of his waning songwriting powers [I'm being kind with 'waning'!] Always quite liked I want the World to Know and Ol Rag Blues is decent enough, the best track on B2B in my opinion (admittedly not a high bar!) The one who had totally run out of ideas was Rick and that was borne out over the coming years. Rossi still had musical ideas, although none of them suitable for a supposed rock band! Once again... 'to each his/her own' - I just can't rate any of his songs on 1982 at all I'm afraid, to the extent that I skip past them. Whereas I find the rest of it is ok and well 'listenable to' [?]. 'ORB' is a great tune alright, no argument from me there
I'm possibly in a minority here but I think TCTTG on B2B is an absolute gem and I always felt that it sounded like a 'heads-up' from Rick to us FF-era fans that Quo as we knew it was now over, and wasn't coming back.
I agree about FR - I feel it was always likely to happen that that was the Quo we'd be hearing from B2B onwards, and he sure hasn't let us down on that score! [Although I did hear 'Liberty Lane' on radio here yesterday and I thought it was f***in' great!!]
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Post by Quoincidence on Aug 20, 2019 12:27:22 GMT
Always quite liked I want the World to Know and Ol Rag Blues is decent enough, the best track on B2B in my opinion (admittedly not a high bar!) The one who had totally run out of ideas was Rick and that was borne out over the coming years. Rossi still had musical ideas, although none of them suitable for a supposed rock band! Once again... 'to each his/her own' - I just can't rate any of his songs on 1982 at all I'm afraid, to the extent that I skip past them. Whereas I find the rest of it is ok and well 'listenable to' [?]. 'ORB' is a great tune alright, no argument from me there
I'm possibly in a minority here but I think TCTTG on B2B is an absolute gem and I always felt that it sounded like a 'heads-up' from Rick to us FF-era fans that Quo as we knew it was now over, and wasn't coming back.
I agree about FR - I feel it was always likely to happen that that was the Quo we'd be hearing from B2B onwards, and he sure hasn't let us down on that score! [Although I did hear 'Liberty Lane' on radio here yesterday and I thought it was f***in' great!!] All I want to hear is Rick singing TCTTG, as it exists from the B2B sessions. His voice would suite it more than Rossi's
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gerh
Grizzled Rocker Rollin'
Posts: 2,953
Favourite Quo Album: 'Hello' [and 'Quo Live']
Favourite other bands.: Zappa, Kansas, Rush, Deep Purple, Yes, Richard Thompson, Horslips, Rory Gallagher, Thin Lizzy, Judas Priest etc etc. [ANYONE but Kiss!]
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Post by gerh on Aug 20, 2019 12:28:15 GMT
Yep - I'd settle for that too, although I don't mind FR's attempt at all, tbh.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2019 12:37:50 GMT
So it isn't gonna be PLC material, sadly. Hopefully this will get released though.
Just release it without Francis. I can see why John and Alan want him involved but Francis killed the FF stone dead.
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Post by Isaac Ryan on Aug 20, 2019 14:12:24 GMT
So it isn't gonna be PLC material, sadly. Hopefully this will get released though. Just release it without Francis. I can see why John and Alan want him involved but Francis killed the FF stone dead. Are you talking 1982 here or 2013/14? Obviously in 1982 JC left but FR,RP and AL all had a part to play in that. In 2013/14 Rossi just went back to his day job. We got two tours when back before 2012 we probably thought we would never see any.
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Post by markquo on Aug 20, 2019 14:23:46 GMT
So it isn't gonna be PLC material, sadly. Hopefully this will get released though. Just release it without Francis. I can see why John and Alan want him involved but Francis killed the FF stone dead. Completely agree. And it’s funny how he stated in interviews at the time that he didn’t do nostalgia yet relies so much on his past to keep him relevant.If the material from 86 onwards was that good they’d play more of it in the set. Cheers
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Post by jcb on Aug 20, 2019 14:37:47 GMT
Is there any PLC material? I’d love to hear it but I don’t think it exists. There was some vague mention of some songs being nearly ready to record, but nothing else. And..if it’s PLC....what’s Francis Rossi got to do with it? It’s a myth.
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Post by Quoincidence on Aug 20, 2019 15:04:02 GMT
Is there any PLC material? I’d love to hear it but I don’t think it exists. There was some vague mention of some songs being nearly ready to record, but nothing else. And..if it’s PLC....what’s Francis Rossi got to do with it? It’s a myth. Yes it does exist. and It's PLC currently simply because it was going to be a side project that Rick was going to do whilst he was still alive, that probably would have evolved into his main thing once he left Quo after his heart attack in Turkey. I'm fairly certain that Rick was planning to attend the convention the other year when both Alan and John attended, but sadly he passed before any of that could happen. Alan and John want Francis involved so it can be the last Frantic Four release and the doors can finally be shut on that era of the band... in terms of them doing anything new that is.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2019 15:29:16 GMT
Are you talking 1982 here or 2013/14? Obviously in 1982 JC left but FR,RP and AL all had a part to play in that. In 2013/14 Rossi just went back to his day job. We got two tours when back before 2012 we probably thought we would never see any. 2014. The situations regarding both splits are very different since in 1982 drugs were involved, people weren't thinking straight and the band were under intense pressure to record an album. Francis didn't "just" go back to his day job. He made it clear in a very unsavoury and insensitive manner that he was killing off the FF, continually slavering at the mouth in interviews and some of the things he said about Alan, John and then Rick after he died were disgusting and can no way be compared to the actions of his drug-addled self of '82.
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gav
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Post by gav on Aug 20, 2019 15:33:49 GMT
Once again... 'to each his/her own' - I just can't rate any of his songs on 1982 at all I'm afraid, to the extent that I skip past them. Whereas I find the rest of it is ok and well 'listenable to' [?]. 'ORB' is a great tune alright, no argument from me there
I'm possibly in a minority here but I think TCTTG on B2B is an absolute gem and I always felt that it sounded like a 'heads-up' from Rick to us FF-era fans that Quo as we knew it was now over, and wasn't coming back.
I agree about FR - I feel it was always likely to happen that that was the Quo we'd be hearing from B2B onwards, and he sure hasn't let us down on that score! [Although I did hear 'Liberty Lane' on radio here yesterday and I thought it was f***in' great!!] All I want to hear is Rick singing TCTTG, as it exists from the B2B sessions. His voice would suite it more than Rossi's I can hear it in my head - something like Bring It On Home from RTYD - and it sounds pretty good!
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Post by jcb on Aug 20, 2019 15:38:25 GMT
I’ve read loads of interviews with Rossi, post FF tours and can’t remember him being rude about the others at all. He just didn’t want to do it. Fair enough, he wasn’t going to stop the others. Wasn’t PLC his idea? Still don’t think any PLC recordings actually happened. They would have leaked out by now.
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Post by Quoincidence on Aug 20, 2019 15:47:24 GMT
I’ve read loads of interviews with Rossi, post FF tours and can’t remember him being rude about the others at all. He just didn’t want to do it. Fair enough, he wasn’t going to stop the others. Wasn’t PLC his idea? Still don’t think any PLC recordings actually happened. They would have leaked out by now. Why would they have leaked out by now? there's a ton of Quo stuff that has NEVER been released, or leaked... does that mean it doesn't exist? Rick and Alan both recorded their parts and John has done his since.
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Post by Quoincidence on Aug 20, 2019 15:51:56 GMT
All I want to hear is Rick singing TCTTG, as it exists from the B2B sessions. His voice would suite it more than Rossi's I can hear it in my head - something like Bring It On Home from RTYD - and it sounds pretty good! Definitely! and I can guarantee Ricks vocal will have more emotion in it due to what he was going through at the time. I don't get why Rossi ended up recording his vocals on the track, but I've heard tales of Rick being pretty pee'd off about it.
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Post by Isaac Ryan on Aug 20, 2019 16:08:30 GMT
Are you talking 1982 here or 2013/14? Obviously in 1982 JC left but FR,RP and AL all had a part to play in that. In 2013/14 Rossi just went back to his day job. We got two tours when back before 2012 we probably thought we would never see any. 2014. The situations regarding both splits are very different since in 1982 drugs were involved, people weren't thinking straight and the band were under intense pressure to record an album. Francis didn't "just" go back to his day job. He made it clear in a very unsavoury and insensitive manner that he was killing off the FF, continually slavering at the mouth in interviews and some of the things he said about Alan, John and then Rick after he died were disgusting and can no way be compared to the actions of his drug-addled self of '82. Francis was the key to the 2013/14 gigs ever happening imo. There was only ever suppose to be one tour and us fans ended up with two. There certainly wasn't a promise of a third. I am certainly very thankful that I got to see the FF live again and so what he didn't want to it again. I am not sure what he said about AL and JC as JCB has said in his post he didn't think there was anything bad. Also what was said about Parfitt?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2019 16:42:16 GMT
I’ve read loads of interviews with Rossi, post FF tours and can’t remember him being rude about the others at all. He just didn’t want to do it. Fair enough, he wasn’t going to stop the others. Wasn’t PLC his idea? Still don’t think any PLC recordings actually happened. They would have leaked out by now. If Francis thought Alan and John were miles off the pace then fair enough, but he should have kept his mouth shut. The fact that he repeated this quote in numerous interviews and for him to have commented on Alan's supposed condition before the man himself had an opportunity to comment was extremely reckless. Even more sickening was him bragging about Rick lying naked on a sofa and the band laughing after hearing he was making a solo album. Rick was dead at this point and couldn't defend himself. Not even his family had the benefit of the publicity that is afforded to Francis to counteract his statement. We know that the information was passed onto Francis by Rhino LINK . And people wonder why there is so much hatred directed towards members of the current lineup when they act like that ?? Yes Francis saw Rick in hospital and knew that something wasn't right but it is shameful that he goes on about it even THREE YEARS on when he knows how much it hurts Rick's kids to hear it. LINK (21:30 mins in) . "I was there" is a gloat.
The sad, overwhelming fact of the matter is that all these interviews are set up primarily to coincide and promote the release of product.
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