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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2019 21:11:42 GMT
Roger and Brian are just two musicians who still love going out and doing their stuff live. Just as Francis, JC or any other aging musician is. Keep an eye on the new release lists for a new Queen album next year Pretty much my take on this whole Quo/tribute act debate. If i was a musician with a pedigree like Messrs. Rossi, May and Taylor and the years of relentless touring/way of life they have behind them, i'd love to be still able to do it at 60 or 70 years old.
People's view of Francis has possibly been contaminated by Francis banging on about his love of money at every opportunity. This brings his integrity into massive doubt. He claims to be not as rich as we'd think. He also claims to be a workaholic. So is he addicted to working, money, or is there some creative joy in what he does when he performs? Or is it all about w@nking for him? Showing off. I suspect he takes immense joy in being one of the few professional entertainers who will admit to a love of money, and goes out his way to give himself that joy.
Point being, if his integrity is at stake, does he lower the band's status to closer to that of a tribute act? Can we take Quo seriously anymore? I guess that's maybe what is behind this debate.
Then he says he's not selling nostalgia. It's infuriating! I think he did an interview with Richie in Germany recently where he said there would be 5 songs from Backbone in the set next year, as opposed to the two now. So maybe they are genuinely proud of this new album, and they are a creative force to be reckoned with, and they will promote the thing by playing half of it on stage. Or will they just take the easy option and revert to the tried and tested set after night one.
Maybe we're just too old, jaded and cynical.
He and Richie did a couple of interviews recently and yes he said there will be a European winter tour next year and there will be five songs from the new album and a few current numbers of the setlist will be chopped. Francis has always been the same annoying, contradictory person, he was just the same in the 70s , just there was no instant social media to broadcast it to all and sundry instantly. Fans were pretty much reliant on print media back then.
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Post by curiousgirl on Aug 31, 2019 21:27:51 GMT
My 2 penneth in all this debate. It was Azza's Roger Waters post which made this clear to me. How can any well known musician, who made a name playing their own style be a tribute act? I can't see that at all. So for me, neither JC Quo nor current Quo are tribute acts. They are bands with different line-ups to the original SQ.
Surely the definition of a tribute act is that unknown musicians form a band to play in the well known style of an original act. They are playing in tribute to their idols. John Coghlan isn't playing in tribute to himself. He's playing the music he helped create. So is Francis.
Re: Francis and money/workaholic. I discovered on the speaking tour just how hard his parents worked to survive. They sold ice-cream in the afternoons, and fish and chips in the evening while Italian girls looked after the children. I think its what he was brought up to do, work hard. And the money comes in handy too.
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Post by gav on Aug 31, 2019 21:59:44 GMT
Assuming John Coghlan isn't paying tribute to himself, what is the other 3's status?
I agree btw, just curious!
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Post by curiousgirl on Aug 31, 2019 23:34:50 GMT
Assuming John Coghlan isn't paying tribute to himself, what is the other 3's status? I agree btw, just curious! Do you mean the other three members of his band? They're musicians playing the repertoire of John's band. Line-ups change. I suppose confusion or doubt occurs if any of those members used to play in a Quo tribute band but to me that is irrelevant. For knowledge and understanding of the Quo sound the best pool of musicians will be from the good tribute bands and there are lot of them. I had no idea of that until I joined the Quo army online. However, as individuals of those tribute bands, they are primarily musicians who have learned and honed their craft that way. It doesn't mean they are lesser musicians, unless their group wasn't that good. Then neither Francis nor John would hire them. But there are some great Quo trib bands out there. Hence Richie getting into Francis' band and John hiring members from other trib bands. They're simply good musicians. Who also love Quo.
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Post by markquo on Aug 31, 2019 23:41:28 GMT
I suppose the discussion about whether the current Status Quo is a tribute band or not will go on forever...for me it's Francis Rossi's Status Quo, just as it would have been Rick's Status Quo if Francis wasn't there and Rick was still there. Yes definitely Francis Rossi’s Quo Cheers
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Post by markquo on Aug 31, 2019 23:45:45 GMT
Nobody's mentioned Queen yet... What are they now? 50% of the original band who still call themselves Queen, plus session musicians who have no public face, plus Adam Lambert. They seem to be very much paying tribute to Freddie. But are they a tribute act or are they too big to be called that? Is Lambert paying tribute to Freddie, and May and Taylor are actually Queen or what's left of them, or what? Are May and Taylor paying tribute to Queen the band, or Freddie? Are they sort of a hybrid tribute? Or are they just a covers band... Pretty boring questions! I don't think they're releasing new material, unlike Quo. Definitely not Queen,if Paul and Ringo played together again would it be the Beatles?Even if they called it that it wouldn’t be. Cheers
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2019 0:12:18 GMT
Nobody's mentioned Queen yet... What are they now? 50% of the original band who still call themselves Queen, plus session musicians who have no public face, plus Adam Lambert. They seem to be very much paying tribute to Freddie. But are they a tribute act or are they too big to be called that? Is Lambert paying tribute to Freddie, and May and Taylor are actually Queen or what's left of them, or what? Are May and Taylor paying tribute to Queen the band, or Freddie? Are they sort of a hybrid tribute? Or are they just a covers band... Pretty boring questions! I don't think they're releasing new material, unlike Quo. Definitely not Queen,if Paul and Ringo played together again would it be the Beatles?Even if they called it that it wouldn’t be. Cheers I just wondered which heritage rock bands you still consider have the right to call themselves by their original name as you say Quo and Queen don't?
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Post by charles on Sept 1, 2019 5:34:26 GMT
Don't worry, Tony, you can still play Tarot Woman, without paying tribute to Ritchie B.
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Post by paradiseflats on Sept 1, 2019 6:05:18 GMT
Pretty much my take on this whole Quo/tribute act debate. If i was a musician with a pedigree like Messrs. Rossi, May and Taylor and the years of relentless touring/way of life they have behind them, i'd love to be still able to do it at 60 or 70 years old.
People's view of Francis has possibly been contaminated by Francis banging on about his love of money at every opportunity. This brings his integrity into massive doubt. He claims to be not as rich as we'd think. He also claims to be a workaholic. So is he addicted to working, money, or is there some creative joy in what he does when he performs? Or is it all about w@nking for him? Showing off. I suspect he takes immense joy in being one of the few professional entertainers who will admit to a love of money, and goes out his way to give himself that joy.
Point being, if his integrity is at stake, does he lower the band's status to closer to that of a tribute act? Can we take Quo seriously anymore? I guess that's maybe what is behind this debate.
Then he says he's not selling nostalgia. It's infuriating! I think he did an interview with Richie in Germany recently where he said there would be 5 songs from Backbone in the set next year, as opposed to the two now. So maybe they are genuinely proud of this new album, and they are a creative force to be reckoned with, and they will promote the thing by playing half of it on stage. Or will they just take the easy option and revert to the tried and tested set after night one.
Maybe we're just too old, jaded and cynical.
He and Richie did a couple of interviews recently and yes he said there will be a European winter tour next year and there will be five songs from the new album and a few current numbers of the setlist will be chopped. Francis has always been the same annoying, contradictory person, he was just the same in the 70s , just there was no instant social media to broadcast it to all and sundry instantly. Fans were pretty much reliant on print media back then. Let me say, do I trust anything he says, well no. However I think it’s good if they tour playing a sizeable number of new songs. Will I go, well not for the first time, I have said no. Must admit the Rick sings put me off. Guess it will depend on day of the week and cost. Wouldn’t travel. Maybe they can play Whitley Bay Playhouse.
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Post by blagult on Sept 1, 2019 6:13:01 GMT
I suppose the discussion about whether the current Status Quo is a tribute band or not will go on forever...for me it's Francis Rossi's Status Quo, just as it would have been Rick's Status Quo if Francis wasn't there and Rick was still there. Yes definitely Francis Rossi’s Quo Cheers Maybe to you Mark but not what it will say on the Tiin come next week ! First time I’ve heard a track by accident last week when LL came over the car radio. As soon as I heard Francis voice on a new song I felt that feeling. The world may be in turmoil but here is Francis sounding just like he always has for 50 odd years. So for 3 minutes all was right in the world. Amazing achievement in my opinion to still get someone to still feel like that. National Treasure Status isn’t achieved without hard work and talent ! And the man has it and has done it in abundance !!
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Post by Victor on Sept 1, 2019 6:28:38 GMT
Yes definitely Francis Rossi’s Quo Cheers Maybe to you Mark but not what it will say on the Tiin come next week ! First time I’ve heard a track by accident last week when LL came over the car radio. As soon as I heard Francis voice on a new song I felt that feeling. The world may be in turmoil but here is Francis sounding just like he always has for 50 odd years. So for 3 minutes all was right in the world. Amazing achievement in my opinion to still get someone to still feel like that. National Treasure Status isn’t achieved without hard work and talent ! And the man has it and has done it in abundance !! I personally don't care what it says on the Tiin, for me it is Francis Rossi's Quo which is no reflection on the album by the way cos I am actually looking forward to it. It's a never ending debate as far as the name goes and I will not try to explain any further why I call it FRQ ços in the end it doesn't matter at all. The main thing for me is that I enjoy the music on the album. But the debate about it is getting tiresome and actually a bit ridiculous as far as I am concerned and no one will be able to change my opinion about it anyway. Just will enjoy the music.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2019 8:04:38 GMT
Don't worry, Tony, you can still play Tarot Woman, without paying tribute to Ritchie B. Considering the writing credits on that song aren't what you'd call accurate I'd hope so. Mind you I only play that stuff live every couple of years, I prefer to live in the now setlist wise.
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Post by markquo on Sept 1, 2019 9:26:42 GMT
Yes definitely Francis Rossi’s Quo Cheers Maybe to you Mark but not what it will say on the Tiin come next week ! First time I’ve heard a track by accident last week when LL came over the car radio. As soon as I heard Francis voice on a new song I felt that feeling. The world may be in turmoil but here is Francis sounding just like he always has for 50 odd years. So for 3 minutes all was right in the world. Amazing achievement in my opinion to still get someone to still feel like that. National Treasure Status isn’t achieved without hard work and talent ! And the man has it and has done it in abundance !! That’s great you still get that feeling about the band,that’s what music is all about. I had that feeling in 91 when RTYD came out,felt like for a brief moment the Quo I love was back in terms of what they were releasing. Obviously we will all see this differently and yes it says Quo on the tin you’re right there. Just find it hard to get excited anymore about any new Quo release. Cheers
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Post by paradiseflats on Sept 1, 2019 9:59:59 GMT
Maybe to you Mark but not what it will say on the Tiin come next week ! First time I’ve heard a track by accident last week when LL came over the car radio. As soon as I heard Francis voice on a new song I felt that feeling. The world may be in turmoil but here is Francis sounding just like he always has for 50 odd years. So for 3 minutes all was right in the world. Amazing achievement in my opinion to still get someone to still feel like that. National Treasure Status isn’t achieved without hard work and talent ! And the man has it and has done it in abundance !! That’s great you still get that feeling about the band,that’s what music is all about. I had that feeling in 91 when RTYD came out,felt like for a brief moment the Quo I love was back in terms of what they were releasing. Obviously we will all see this differently and yes it says Quo on the tin you’re right there. Just find it hard to get excited anymore about any new Quo release. Cheers At no point has my Status Quo returned with an album since Alan was forced out. Also if I’m honest I am unlikely to get ‘excited’ about a release by any band. For those who like it great, I can’t help think they have little taste in music. As it’s not very good.
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Post by Victor on Sept 1, 2019 10:07:48 GMT
That’s great you still get that feeling about the band,that’s what music is all about. I had that feeling in 91 when RTYD came out,felt like for a brief moment the Quo I love was back in terms of what they were releasing. Obviously we will all see this differently and yes it says Quo on the tin you’re right there. Just find it hard to get excited anymore about any new Quo release. Cheers At no point has my Status Quo returned with an album since Alan was forced out. Also if I’m honest I am unlikely to get ‘excited’ about a release by any band. For those who like it great, I can’t help think they have little taste in music. As it’s not very good. Taste is a very subjective thing
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