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Post by freewilly on Jul 17, 2017 17:13:10 GMT
Is that Richie playing the intro the Beginning of The End? It's fucking weak Yes it is.
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Post by Quoincidence on Jul 17, 2017 18:22:29 GMT
Is that Richie playing the intro the Beginning of The End? It's fucking weak Yes it is. There's no power behind it at all... comparing it with the Montreux version. That guitar tone is dreadful as well! just sounds to compressed
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2017 19:28:41 GMT
You can't replace someone like Freddie Mercury with Adam Lambert just as replacing Rick with whoever is a thankless task, filling the shoes of a legend is impossible but I think the guy deserves credit when he's up against Francis having his guitar reduced to almost nothing in the live mix (seen and heard in person) and up against fans who would complain that he isn't like Rick enough or is trying too hard to look/sound like Rick. The guy is earning a living, he has a partner, young daughters, a mortgage and fate has landed him in the most impossible of situations so maybe some slack cutting would be the gentlemanly thing to do, especially when his dad is a member on here and will read what's said about his son.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2017 19:39:35 GMT
You can't replace someone like Freddie Mercury with Adam Lambert just as replacing Rick with whoever is a thankless task, filling the shoes of a legend is impossible but I think the guy deserves credit when he's up against Francis having his guitar reduced to almost nothing in the live mix (seen and heard in person) and up against fans who would complain that he isn't like Rick enough or is trying too hard to look/sound like Rick. The guy is earning a living, he has a partner, young daughters, a mortgage and fate has landed him in the most impossible of situations so maybe some slack cutting would be the gentlemanly thing to do, especially when his dad is a member on here and will read what's said about his son. Well said. Many of us can dislike the product, but some personal respect as you illustrate so well is important Francis can be criticised (not abused) on the basis of the tailspin of Quo (or whatever they should be called now) but its not a stand-ins fault for the overall slump.
They won't of course, but for the sake of argument the irony is that if Francis/management decided on ripping up the script, abandoning the farce, and instead doing something astonishing like creating a new 'product' quite divorced from 'Status Quo' then the stand-in would be able to actually give his best beyond the restrictions of not only trying to fill the unique role of a sadly deceased predecessor, but also shine beyond the restrictions that the ego and control of Francis Rossi may have (consciously or unconsciously) placed on him.
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Post by slowtrain7 on Jul 18, 2017 15:23:20 GMT
I remember back in the 60's when they changed the actor playing Darren in BEWITCHED from Dick York to Dick Sargeant o vice versa, the 60's were a confusing time for a drug free SLOWTRAIN trying to make sense of a topsy turvy freaky Flower Power Era.
Darren looked similar, but the kids in the street, we knew something was a foot.
He didn't play guitar and sing in the greatest and best Rock band of all time, but it's a very similar comparison.
No, SLOWTRAIN it's nothing at all like the most important issue of modern times, this is far more important than BODY LINE which endangered the safety of batsmen in the 1930's.
Stop your whinging and be thankful that there is a nice young man playing all the right chords in the right order with a smile on his face.
Quite frankly I'm getting very tired of all the QUO BASHING.
In fact, it's not really a genuine QUO article, it's the adorable FRANCIS ROSSI and his band of merry men.
We've actually been living a suppressed lie and delusion since 1984/5 that "yes, this is still STATUS QUO"
No Coghlan or Lancaster then and now no Parfitt.
It's like your pet dog dying and your parents replacing it with a 'lookalke' and every one pretends it's still the same dog, but you know it's not, and nobody talks about it.
One of SLOWTRAIN's fave albums of all time is "Fresh Fruit For Rotting Vegetables" 1980 by DEAD KENNEDYS, so Status Quo aren't my only interest.
There's no comparison between the political comment of "Kill The Poor" and "Holiday In Cambodia" with any QUO song that wouldn't inspire any dinner conversation about anything.
"Give Me Convenience or Give Me Death" - Dead Kennedys more comment on an impatient consumer society.
Oooooh, trouble in Paradise, that 'new' guitarist, he's not as good as the other bloke.
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Post by Railroad17 on Jul 18, 2017 19:14:12 GMT
"It's like your pet dog dying and your parents replacing it with a 'lookalke' and every one pretends it's still the same dog, but you know it's not, and nobody talks about it"
More like Del Boy and Denzils canary.
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Post by Detroit on Jul 18, 2017 19:24:17 GMT
I remember back in the 60's when they changed the actor playing Darren in BEWITCHED from Dick York to Dick Sargeant o vice versa, the 60's were a confusing time for a drug free SLOWTRAIN trying to make sense of a topsy turvy freaky Flower Power Era. Darren looked similar, but the kids in the street, we knew something was a foot. He didn't play guitar and sing in the greatest and best Rock band of all time, but it's a very similar comparison. No, SLOWTRAIN it's nothing at all like the most important issue of modern times, this is far more important than BODY LINE which endangered the safety of batsmen in the 1930's. Stop your whinging and be thankful that there is a nice young man playing all the right chords in the right order with a smile on his face. Quite frankly I'm getting very tired of all the QUO BASHING. In fact, it's not really a genuine QUO article, it's the adorable FRANCIS ROSSI and his band of merry men. We've actually been living a suppressed lie and delusion since 1984/5 that "yes, this is still STATUS QUO" No Coghlan or Lancaster then and now no Parfitt. It's like your pet dog dying and your parents replacing it with a 'lookalke' and every one pretends it's still the same dog, but you know it's not, and nobody talks about it. One of SLOWTRAIN's fave albums of all time is "Fresh Fruit For Rotting Vegetables" 1980 by DEAD KENNEDYS, so Status Quo aren't my only interest. There's no comparison between the political comment of "Kill The Poor" and "Holiday In Cambodia" with any QUO song that wouldn't inspire any dinner conversation about anything. "Give Me Convenience or Give Me Death" - Dead Kennedys more comment on an impatient consumer society. Oooooh, trouble in Paradise, that 'new' guitarist, he's not as good as the other bloke. I recall that all too well. Same as the Gilligan's Island theme song. They took out the line "the Professor and Mary-Ann", but we all knew what they were up to back at the lagoon.
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Post by Railroad17 on Jul 19, 2017 7:19:37 GMT
There was no Bodyline...it was fast leg theory.And what about Trapper John,Major Burns and Henry in M.A.S.H.
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Post by curiousgirl on Jul 19, 2017 8:56:36 GMT
I hear you @catlady about the band trying something different but I don't think their leader is capable of that. I went to the solo tour, twice, with great hope the first time that it would be quite different. But it wasn't. There were of course songs off the solo album plus other Quo tracks. And not all the poppy ones. He added You'll Come Round" which he wrote for Ozzy O. Except that Ozzy didn't want it.
He isn't Freddie Mercury who had ideas of very different musical collaborations, such as his duets with opera singer Montserrat Caballe. I watched a fascinating documentary about their collab and Freddie was even advised against it to begin with. But he was determined to do it and it worked/wowed many fans and new fans.
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Post by Mrs Flittersnoop on Jul 19, 2017 12:03:22 GMT
You can't replace someone like Freddie Mercury with Adam Lambert just as replacing Rick with whoever is a thankless task, filling the shoes of a legend is impossible but I think the guy deserves credit when he's up against Francis having his guitar reduced to almost nothing in the live mix (seen and heard in person) and up against fans who would complain that he isn't like Rick enough or is trying too hard to look/sound like Rick. The guy is earning a living, he has a partner, young daughters, a mortgage and fate has landed him in the most impossible of situations so maybe some slack cutting would be the gentlemanly thing to do, especially when his dad is a member on here and will read what's said about his son. Well said Blue Highway. The show last December "wasn't Rick" but they still put on a good show and I don't recognise what is said about Ritchie, so I think something must be "lost in the mix". I'm not interested in the DVD anyway, it is just the same material, even with Rick it's unlikely i would be buying it. The fact it was meant to be the "last" doesn't change that.
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Post by Mrs Flittersnoop on Jul 19, 2017 12:07:31 GMT
I hear you @catlady about the band trying something different but I don't think their leader is capable of that. I went to the solo tour, twice, with great hope the first time that it would be quite different. But it wasn't. There were of course songs off the solo album plus other Quo tracks. And not all the poppy ones. He added You'll Come Round" which he wrote for Ozzy O. Except that Ozzy didn't want it. He isn't Freddie Mercury who had ideas of very different musical collaborations, such as his duets with opera singer Montserrat Caballe. I watched a fascinating documentary about their collab and Freddie was even advised against it to begin with. But he was determined to do it and it worked/wowed many fans and new fans. I have to agree. Though oddly, latter, wasn't he interested in doing some opera stuff and took part in a recorded musical - of some kind? (Not Caballe level opera.) I didn't know that bit about Ozzy. You see Francis can still do it when he wants to ... but he wants something different, and he just ins't standout enough in that field.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2017 12:52:39 GMT
I hear you @catlady about the band trying something different but I don't think their leader is capable of that. I went to the solo tour, twice, with great hope the first time that it would be quite different. But it wasn't. There were of course songs off the solo album plus other Quo tracks. And not all the poppy ones. He added You'll Come Round" which he wrote for Ozzy O. Except that Ozzy didn't want it. He isn't Freddie Mercury who had ideas of very different musical collaborations, such as his duets with opera singer Montserrat Caballe. I watched a fascinating documentary about their collab and Freddie was even advised against it to begin with. But he was determined to do it and it worked/wowed many fans and new fans. Yes, well as I've said a few times before when I've spoken in this king of hope - ideology is a very different thing to reality
It won't happen of course. He has wanted to change Quo' sound for a very long time and speaks of wanting to duet with females etc, but he cannot separate himself from Quo itself and do something really different.
I admired what FM did, even though I wasn't an actual fan of his music
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Post by curiousgirl on Jul 19, 2017 13:08:48 GMT
I hear you @catlady about the band trying something different but I don't think their leader is capable of that. I went to the solo tour, twice, with great hope the first time that it would be quite different. But it wasn't. There were of course songs off the solo album plus other Quo tracks. And not all the poppy ones. He added You'll Come Round" which he wrote for Ozzy O. Except that Ozzy didn't want it. He isn't Freddie Mercury who had ideas of very different musical collaborations, such as his duets with opera singer Montserrat Caballe. I watched a fascinating documentary about their collab and Freddie was even advised against it to begin with. But he was determined to do it and it worked/wowed many fans and new fans. I have to agree. Though oddly, latter, wasn't he interested in doing some opera stuff and took part in a recorded musical - of some kind? (Not Caballe level opera.) I didn't know that bit about Ozzy. You see Francis can still do it when he wants to ... but he wants something different, and he just ins't standout enough in that field. I didn't know about the opera stuff but it wouldn't surprise me as he admits to loving all kinds of music including opera. Indeed he can. Yep, I think that's his problem too and I suspect he knows it. Maybe that's what's made him appear so hard.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2017 13:14:38 GMT
Has Francis ever made a real effort to persuade someone well respected and known from within the music industry to put together and record an album with him?
I'm of course asking the question rhetorically and thinking the answer is "no".
This would have been the most obvious way to get inspiration into tapping into something innovative and creative...and also doesn't sound like Quo. If he can't be stand-out himself in a different field, then collaborate instead and make something happen.
Its up to him of course how he plays out to his eventual retirement, but if he insists on wanting to continue to play and want something different, then why on earth carry on with half baked karaoke and playing the same set, year on year, tour on tour, re-constituting what is already a corpse of a formula - and which he has admitted himself is beyond a sell by date!
It just makes no sense whatsoever...
As LNOTE shows, he is not even singing and playing properly. It sounds lazy, sloppy, well below what he is capable of, and does nothing for his credibility
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Post by Railroad17 on Jul 20, 2017 14:42:09 GMT
"It sounds lazy, sloppy" In front of people who've paid well over £50 for the pleasure of a nudge and wink Rossi special,50 quids just the admission price,I'll bet many drove,got a train or bused in from all over the place.Taking the fcuking piss now I reckon.I wouldn't cross the road to see this show but many thousands did and they deserve better than a singer who misses verses and words,plays dreadful guitar(what does he actually practice three hours a day)and is travelling on a past reputation slowly going down the drain.
It's a bit like the way the FA treat the supporters.It wasn't all nutters going around the world for a ruck,that's the media part,but as soon as they could smell money the FA ditched the old style fans fast as you like for the famous 'prawn sandwich' brigade.
Status Quo 2017 bit like the country,used to be worth something but greed fucked it up.It's always been about the money after the Quo album.It's only now become very clear what mugs we were to actually think we had anything in common with them.
I'm glad I jacked it in after Perfect Remedy,should have given up after JC was sacked.I'm glad I was an embarassment to Francis Rossi back then with jeans and a T shirt but not half as big as the one he is now....fcuking white socks 'an all!
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