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Post by taximan2002 on Feb 13, 2017 14:23:27 GMT
Just heard Down Down on the radio and just wondered who gets paid most for that being on air. Is it Rossi/Young, the music publishers and also, would Nuff, Spud and Rick ( his estate ) also get a payment for playing on the track..?
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Post by freewilly on Feb 13, 2017 14:47:23 GMT
Just heard Down Down on the radio and just wondered who gets paid most for that being on air. Is it Rossi/Young, the music publishers and also, would Nuff, Spud and Rick ( his estate ) also get a payment for playing on the track..? They all get "mechanical" royalties for playing on it.
Rossi/Young get writing royalties too.
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Post by taximan2002 on Feb 13, 2017 15:58:36 GMT
Just heard Down Down on the radio and just wondered who gets paid most for that being on air. Is it Rossi/Young, the music publishers and also, would Nuff, Spud and Rick ( his estate ) also get a payment for playing on the track..? They all get "mechanical" royalties for playing on it.
Rossi/Young get writing royalties too.
Any idea of amounts...?
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Post by freewilly on Feb 13, 2017 16:16:56 GMT
They all get "mechanical" royalties for playing on it.
Rossi/Young get writing royalties too.
Any idea of amounts...? Mechanical royalties would be in around anything between 8p-10p, everytime a song is downloaded or bought physically (Those were the days)
So say WYP, sold 500,000 copies in a week (Which it did), that would give them all £50,000 each. Just for playing on it.
Then you add the royalties for each time a song is played on the radio or a shop/supermarket/hairdressers/bar/club etc (All those places have to be registered to play music so royalties are calculated) Then, you add the songwriters royalties Then, you add the merchandise money Then, you add the tour money Then, you add record company advances
It's a lot of money....Obviously records don't sell these days so I'm going on what it was back in the golden age
Quo would have been stinking rich...However, as we know, someone else got rich off the back of them
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Post by taximan2002 on Feb 13, 2017 16:35:17 GMT
Mechanical royalties would be in around anything between 8p-10p, everytime a song is downloaded or bought physically (Those were the days)
So say WYP, sold 500,000 copies in a week (Which it did), that would give them all £50,000 each. Just for playing on it.
Then you add the royalties for each time a song is played on the radio or a shop/supermarket/hairdressers/bar/club etc (All those places have to be registered to play music so royalties are calculated) Then, you add the songwriters royalties Then, you add the merchandise money Then, you add the tour money Then, you add record company advances
It's a lot of money....Obviously records don't sell these days so I'm going on what it was back in the golden age
Quo would have been stinking rich...However, as we know, someone else got rich off the back of them
I think we know who got stinking rich from then, name dropped from a song is the biggest hint.. Here's my copy, bought on the day it came out..:-)
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Post by freewilly on Feb 13, 2017 16:43:23 GMT
Mechanical royalties would be in around anything between 8p-10p, everytime a song is downloaded or bought physically (Those were the days)
So say WYP, sold 500,000 copies in a week (Which it did), that would give them all £50,000 each. Just for playing on it.
Then you add the royalties for each time a song is played on the radio or a shop/supermarket/hairdressers/bar/club etc (All those places have to be registered to play music so royalties are calculated) Then, you add the songwriters royalties Then, you add the merchandise money Then, you add the tour money Then, you add record company advances
It's a lot of money....Obviously records don't sell these days so I'm going on what it was back in the golden age
Quo would have been stinking rich...However, as we know, someone else got rich off the back of them
I think we know who got stinking rich from then, name dropped from a song is the biggest hint.. Here's my copy, bought on the day it came out..:-) Niceeeee
People saying "Oh Rick wasted all that money" etc etc....It was peanuts to him back then! Can't believe they were that stupid to get ripped off. Well, everyone except Alan it appears, who started asking the difficult questions....Who would have thought the person, who was sober and wasn't doing cocaine, would notice it first?
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Post by taximan2002 on Feb 13, 2017 17:17:28 GMT
I think we know who got stinking rich from then, name dropped from a song is the biggest hint.. Here's my copy, bought on the day it came out..:-) Niceeeee
People saying "Oh Rick wasted all that money" etc etc....It was peanuts to him back then! Can't believe they were that stupid to get ripped off. Well, everyone except Alan it appears, who started asking the difficult questions....Who would have thought the person, who was sober and wasn't doing cocaine, would notice it first?
It went back even further than the cocaine days, just look at the Levi's deal. Adverts all over the world and they got a roll of denim each...
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Post by freewilly on Feb 13, 2017 19:10:41 GMT
Niceeeee
People saying "Oh Rick wasted all that money" etc etc....It was peanuts to him back then! Can't believe they were that stupid to get ripped off. Well, everyone except Alan it appears, who started asking the difficult questions....Who would have thought the person, who was sober and wasn't doing cocaine, would notice it first?
It went back even further than the cocaine days, just look at the Levi's deal. Adverts all over the world and they got a roll of denim each... True but, they were all high as kites back when that happened. Except John obviously. Although, he probably took speed the way he played on BFY
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Post by quomaster on Feb 13, 2017 20:17:25 GMT
The songwriters get the big bucks. Noddy Holder and Jim Lea never have to work again solely on the royalties of "Merry Christmas Everybody". As they didn't write songs Dave and Don still have to gig.
Curiously Coles run ads now with extras playing little red hand guitars singing "It's a Down Down" to the tune of "It's Amore" - I have no doubt that the Quo machine get some money just from that phrase being used.
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Post by powerage on Feb 14, 2017 22:17:09 GMT
When Alan and John settled out of court, would they have forfeited their rights to future royalties?
It's been years since I studied music business.
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Post by madtom on Feb 14, 2017 22:23:11 GMT
When Alan and John settled out of court, would they have forfeited their rights to future royalties? It's been years since I studied music business. Maybe I dreamt it, but I thought I'd heard that somewhere. Anyway, I don't think it's beyond the realms of possibility.
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Post by powerage on Feb 14, 2017 22:29:32 GMT
When Alan and John settled out of court, would they have forfeited their rights to future royalties? It's been years since I studied music business. Maybe I dreamt it, but I thought I'd heard that somewhere. Anyway, I don't think it's beyond the realms of possibility. I would assume that it's a one off payment up front for future earnings but maybe someone else knows more about it! When Alan got the boot and had financial issues with his investments, I figured it was part of it.
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Post by Mrs Flittersnoop on Feb 14, 2017 23:00:47 GMT
I guess also that Alan (not the first rock entrepreneur to do so) was at least partly relying on his music earnings for capitalisation of his projects. When that dried up, it could have landed him in a serious mess, even if he was well organised and careful. It was not something he could plan for.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2017 17:38:30 GMT
I remember reading an interview with Francis in Record Collector in the early 90s (in response to an interviewer statement that Alan Lancaster had been slagging off recent Quo content) that Alan was biting the hand that fed and he'd have done well out of the successful 'Rockin' All Over the Years' album. I always thought, though don't know for sure, Alan would have given up his rights to how the music was used and released.
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Post by Detroit on Feb 15, 2017 19:38:32 GMT
Apparently, that utter fanny Sting gets almost £400,000 a year from "Every Breath You Take" alone! Nice work if you can get it. I wouldn't hold my breath.
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