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Post by JB on Feb 5, 2017 19:53:14 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2017 21:04:35 GMT
I hope hearing it from the man himself will stop a lot of the bitching and vile comments that certain people seem to think it is acceptable to spew on this board.
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Post by viking55 on Feb 6, 2017 10:19:51 GMT
Yep, sounds like Rick really rated Ritchie doesn't it !
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Post by 4th Chord on Feb 6, 2017 12:19:55 GMT
I don't think anyone is denying he's a decent guitar player. That's completely missing the point.
Having a last night of the electric tour, and then booking more electric gigs, with one original member as 'Status Quo', is nothing but money grabbing. No passion anymore for the music, no respect for the fans, just 'business'.
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Post by freewilly on Feb 6, 2017 13:23:08 GMT
I don't think anyone is denying he's a decent guitar player. That's completely missing the point. Having a last night of the electric tour, and then booking more electric gigs, with one original member as 'Status Quo', is nothing but money grabbing. No passion anymore for the music, no respect for the fans, just 'business'. Exactly.
Yes, he is decent but, he's not in Rick's league. Very few can play like Rick. As soon as Rick went from the band, the quality in sound dropped quite low. He was just that good at what he done and no one can replace him or get close to him.
Is it disrespectful? No. Is it an insult? No. Is it a fact? Yes.
It's like Rhino...We all know he's a good bass player and musician but, he's nowhere near Alan's standard when it comes to Quo and his understanding of what it should sound like and feel like
As much as I like them, I would hate to see The Edge, Hendrix, Lindsey Buckingham etc play with Quo. Not about technical ability, it's about the feel of what you play and the love of it that makes a band great.
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Post by Mrs Flittersnoop on Feb 6, 2017 13:41:37 GMT
yes that really is quite weird, isn't it. Although that knowledge, on Rick's part, would be a contributor to Richie getting the job later. I don't think he looks the slightest bit like Rick, though he might have done when he was a nipper I'm not hearing a "drop" in Quo's sound (to be fair, I have only done the one gig since Rick left). But it has shifted. WHEN Francis is playing with some welly, it's a really sharp sound. I sat and thought, "Does he realise, that if he played Country like that, he might get somewhere with it ... ?" (But he won't. That was what he was trying to get away from, wasn't it? That energy.)
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Post by freewilly on Feb 6, 2017 13:50:05 GMT
yes that really is quite weird, isn't it. Although that knowledge, on Rick's part, would be a contributor to Richie getting the job later. I don't think he looks the slightest bit like Rick, though he might have done when he was a nipper I'm not hearing a "drop" in Quo's sound (to be fair, I have only done the one gig since Rick left). But it has shifted. WHEN Francis is playing with some welly, it's a really sharp sound. I sat and thought, "Does he realise, that if he played Country like that, he might get somewhere with it ... ?" (But he won't. That was what he was trying to get away from, wasn't it? That energy.) It's little things like the arse drops out of it if Francis isn't playing. I've also noticed that the tempo speeds up, as soon as Leon kicks in at the start of Caroline. Quite like the mid 90s era
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2017 18:22:36 GMT
I don't think anyone is denying he's a decent guitar player. That's completely missing the point. Having a last night of the electric tour, and then booking more electric gigs, with one original member as 'Status Quo', is nothing but money grabbing. No passion anymore for the music, no respect for the fans, just 'business'. The majority of "disrespected" fans are still queueing up to buy gig tickets though and the bottom line is the music industry is and always has been about making money so Quo isn't alone in behaving like this. Bands don't make their money from the real hardcore fans, they make their money from average punters who liked the singles and go to hear them in their droves.
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Post by freewilly on Feb 6, 2017 18:30:23 GMT
I don't think anyone is denying he's a decent guitar player. That's completely missing the point. Having a last night of the electric tour, and then booking more electric gigs, with one original member as 'Status Quo', is nothing but money grabbing. No passion anymore for the music, no respect for the fans, just 'business'. The majority of "disrespected" fans are still queueing up to buy gig tickets though and the bottom line is the music industry is and always has been about making money so Quo isn't alone in behaving like this. Bands don't make their money from the real hardcore fans, they make their money from average punters who liked the singles and go to hear them in their droves. Beg to differ. I personally don't think you can call the fans who went to see them in the 70s and 80s "average punters" In fact, i'd be astounded if one of those kind were one of the one's singing the line "Be My Friend" in 4500 Times at MK or bouncing up and down for the vast majority of album and b side dominated gigs.... Obviously, since 1988 it's been somewhat different though
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Post by 4th Chord on Feb 6, 2017 18:43:49 GMT
I don't think anyone is denying he's a decent guitar player. That's completely missing the point. Having a last night of the electric tour, and then booking more electric gigs, with one original member as 'Status Quo', is nothing but money grabbing. No passion anymore for the music, no respect for the fans, just 'business'. The majority of "disrespected" fans are still queueing up to buy gig tickets though and the bottom line is the music industry is and always has been about making money so Quo isn't alone in behaving like this. Bands don't make their money from the real hardcore fans, they make their money from average punters who liked the singles and go to hear them in their droves. Doesn't mean the creativity and passion has to die as well though. It treats fans as a commodity. Even a respectful break from Status Quo activities is the least the memory of Rick deserves.
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Post by viking55 on Feb 6, 2017 19:16:17 GMT
Creativity and passion dies with age. Kicking on 70 now nd things are not the same. I wouldn't expect them to have the same creativity. Why do some people get stuck in a time warp that is 1976. QUO started doing it by numbers in 1982 And 1984 2 very average albums ... and it was F3 then ! They had lost it then ! Of course the sound will be different with Ritchie but totally disagree that the sound has deteriated badly.. that's just being dellusional because you don't want to or cannot come to terms with anything else !
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Post by 4th Chord on Feb 6, 2017 19:38:19 GMT
Creativity and passion dies with age. Kicking on 70 now nd things are not the same. I wouldn't expect them to have the same creativity. Why do some people get stuck in a time warp that is 1976. QUO started doing it by numbers in 1982 And 1984 2 very average albums ... and it was F3 then ! They had lost it then ! Of course the sound will be different with Ritchie but totally disagree that the sound has deteriated badly.. that's just being dellusional because you don't want to or cannot come to terms with anything else ! Really? Jeff Lynne 69 Springsteen 67 Daryl Hall 70 All have been hugely creative the past few years. Creativity and passion certainly DO NOT die with 'age', it's a conscious choice.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2017 19:39:55 GMT
Creativity and passion dies with age. Kicking on 70 now nd things are not the same. I wouldn't expect them to have the same creativity. Why do some people get stuck in a time warp that is 1976. QUO started doing it by numbers in 1982 And 1984 2 very average albums ... and it was F3 then ! They had lost it then ! Of course the sound will be different with Ritchie but totally disagree that the sound has deteriated badly.. that's just being dellusional because you don't want to or cannot come to terms with anything else ! It wasn't all about the sound though , it was having STATUS QUO in front of you on a stage that alone was a buzz , seeing only Rossi and being surrounded by 'musicians' just doesn't cut it , theres no buzzzzzzzzz ...
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Post by Victor on Feb 6, 2017 19:40:30 GMT
Creativity and passion dies with age. Kicking on 70 now nd things are not the same. I wouldn't expect them to have the same creativity. Why do some people get stuck in a time warp that is 1976. QUO started doing it by numbers in 1982 And 1984 2 very average albums ... and it was F3 then ! They had lost it then ! Of course the sound will be different with Ritchie but totally disagree that the sound has deteriated badly.. that's just being dellusional because you don't want to or cannot come to terms with anything else ! Disagreed. First of all creativity and passion doesn't have to die with age at all. That's completely dependent on every artist. Some artists creativity dies, others doesn't. Also, if someone prefers the sound of the FF and thinks the sound after that deteriated then that is their personal opinion and has nothing to do with being delusional. Yes, I liked certain things from Qup after the FF period... but nothing that came after has been as good as the ff period was. Again, nothing to do with being delusional and everything to do with what I personally think and prefer.
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Post by Quoincidence on Feb 6, 2017 19:42:54 GMT
I don't see why getting stuck in the 70's is such a bad thing? if thats the era that people like best of Quo then so be it... 1+9+8+2 and Back To Back are pretty much Rossi solo albums under the Quo label cause they'd lost the "magic" they had... And saying that I don't mean cause Coghlan had left but because they were just wearing themselves out! As John has said many times, Quo should've took time off in the early 80's instead of forcing themselves to do albums. There are good tracks on both of those albums but certainly not 'Quo' tracks at all. and then In The Army now was just made up of Ricks solo album and old songs from the late 70's. Honestly I never used to get it but over the past couple years I've understood why fans prefer to be "Stuck in the 70's"... There was a massive change in Quo live and it wasn't for the better... They make out every movement they did on stage during the EOTR was fake but when you watch footage from '86, it's just so false and put on...
Back to the point of the topic; Richie may be good but to say he wasn't mimicking Ricks stage presence is beyond me... Not saying to just stand there but Freddie didn't exactly copy Rick move for move? No one could ever replace the presence Rick had on stage. End of.
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