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Post by Detroit on Nov 8, 2016 19:24:36 GMT
What many of us have been saying for the past 30-odd years. The new advert: "Status Quo! Now 38% lighter and poppier than before!" Just go ahead and change the name to The 1910 Fruitgum Company and be done with it... Hey, I liked that band!
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Post by Victor on Nov 8, 2016 19:36:45 GMT
All I can say is thank FOOOOK for the reunions . ps big respect for Rick saying how it really is, the others are purely in it for the money . Listening to Dog Of Two Head atm , pure magic them 4 back then ! Yep. Thank goodness my last concert was one of the reunion gigs , hammy 2014. Absolutely fantastic !!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2016 19:53:15 GMT
I've just posted this on Facebook, in a discussion about Aquostic II dropping down from 23 to 43 in this week's midweek chart: "I don't think it can help them when all the interviews focus on Rick leaving the band. When they've relied for 30 years on being this cheeky double act in interviews, and now it's 'oh the blonde one isn't there anymore, and Francis loves Marguerita Time and wants to do country music...' - it's like it's all over - and how can that be a good way to promote another album of covers. Even I, as a buy-everything-they-release fan, am fed up with it, then I'm sure it's a big ask to persuade a casual fan to buy it. "I think the first one worked because And It's Better Now was played loads on Radio 2, and everyone genuinely liked it because it was "oh, this is Status Quo? This is really cool." Everyone likes Pictures of Matchstickmen too - so when that's played with strings etc - another reason to buy the album. Coupled with a great piece of marketing with the Roundhouse gig - and it was all set to run and run. "Compare that to this project: This is what the marketing is like: We're playing our last electric shows, but Rick has left the band, and he doesn't like our acoustic direction. That's it - I'm not sure if they're supposed to be promoting the album or the tour. "They've got an acoustic album out which they are promoting by playing their last electric shows, with a man down. Francis is saying he doesn't want to play electric shows anymore: that's not a good advert for selling tickets to the shows. Where's the incentive to go? Apart from nostalgia? Francis doesn't understand fans being nostalgic. It's all mixed messages and very messy." You're right. Aquostic II has failed on so many levels. I didn't and still don't think That's A Fact was the right choice for lead single. The lyrics are largely inaudible due to a half-jaked Rossi mumbling his way through them. Compared to AIBN it lacks melody and there's no distinguishable chorus. HYB is another disaster waiting to happen because although it contains both of these elements, it's not the type of song people want nowadays. The Winner flopped for that very reason. The artwork is also crap. Since QPQ, it has been drawn by two-year-olds. Has Porter not heard of a photographer? Not sure why he thinks arty-farty scribbles are the way to go. The promotion for the tour is abysmal. The ad I seen was bland and little made of the fact that it was the last tour. Probably trying to play down that fact so they can sell more tickets for the upcoming acoustic tour, but they've already ballsed up on the promotion for that. The last tour was a financial failure, so not sure how they can turn a profit now. After FF in 2014, Quo should have stopped touring the electrics. Clearly make the distinction that they were going acoustic full-time instead of the blatant facade that they switch back and forth anytime depending on where the money is. The amount of product fans have been prompted to buy in the last few years is disgusting. Another reason why Aquostic II has failed.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2016 20:27:58 GMT
I'm very sad about the lack of creativity in recent years coming out of the Quo camp. Seems like Francis and Rick have fallen out over the reunions. It's just taken a couple of years to manifest itself - after all these tours are booked years in advance. Poor old Francis - wanting to do his own thing since 1984 - and then spending the next 30 odd years just playing the same old Status Quo songs to a dwindling audience. Hi All LPB, Creativity has been lacking for a long time the evidence has been in the recorded albums with only the odd splash of good rockers coming from the band. While I can accept that the band had changed the pop/rock orientation was not the way to go as it stayed all through their output I would say up till PPQ which was their heaviest in years mile a mile IMO.
All bands go through evolution with their core sound staying the same, unfortunately for Quo after Alan had gone Francis then forced his way through the band and it has backfired for the most as is evident by most of the posts on this forum. I would have been fine with Francis doing his own solo music then coming back to Quo and rocking out more great music, but to carry on his own solo stuff through to the band was just suicidal to the band which has resulted in the situation we have today.
Here is a theory of what I think has happened:- Francis like you say has done his own thing since '84' only keeping Quo going as a pay cheque to provide money for his solo stuff ? This in turn has influenced his writing and the poprock sound that has poured out of Quo ever since Alan left. The record company had waved the contract in front of his face and instead of just pulling the plug on Quo-paying off whatever penalties he carried the band on.
What he should have done if he really wanted to do this was just talk with Alan and Rick about either buying them out of the band. He could even have a complete termination of the band name to reform if that his project failed just to get it out of his system. Plenty of other bands I should imagine have had band members do solo projects and carry on when back together.
Geoff.
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Post by MrWaistcoat on Nov 8, 2016 21:16:46 GMT
What if Rick hadn't had his health issues this year?
I think we'd likely be in the same (boat?) situation now....with everything feeling anti-climatic and pointless after the FF gigs - both for Rick, and for large sections of the fanbase.
I still think that (eventually) there will be some sort of official end of sorts.....a sad fizzling out to diminishing returns would be very sad, irrespective of what the line up is
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Post by curiousgirl on Nov 8, 2016 22:59:50 GMT
1batfastard Hi Geoff, as Francis is so fond of sayinf, he's got 8 children to support and he's not capable of doing anything else. He put no effort into a solo career beyond his first attempt until 2010. So I think that must be right, going by his actions.
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Post by freewilly on Nov 8, 2016 23:14:48 GMT
Porter once said of the FF that it's a shame to go out on diminishing returns.....
So, what's his reasoning for CQ going out on diminishing returns?
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Post by Beano on Nov 8, 2016 23:15:02 GMT
Re the current setup: While I can understand Mr and Mrs casual gig goer thinking that they have seen Status Quo, what I can't get my head round is long term Quo fans wanting autographs etc from blokes who until recently were Quo fans themselves! Totally bizarre.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2016 1:21:27 GMT
Rick stated that it was HIS idea about the whole Aquostic stuff- he seems to have his head up his own arse a bit too much for his own good.
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Post by Railroad17 on Nov 9, 2016 3:27:40 GMT
All I can say is thank FOOOOK for the reunions . ps big respect for Rick saying how it really is, the others are purely in it for the money . Listening to Dog Of Two Head atm , pure magic them 4 back then ! Yep. Thank goodness my last concert was one of the reunion gigs , hammy 2014. Absolutely fantastic !! hammy is a fucking hamster.'Ammersmith is a borough in London(the shit part).
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Post by tqontq on Nov 9, 2016 3:50:30 GMT
Quo ended a loooooong time ago in my book. Only relived for 2013 and 2014 in what brought everything (us and them) back to life again. That was it. Final closure. Thank you.
Nowt much more to it. Francis can dream all he wants about continuing Status Quo as an acoustic country band. Once the dust has settled on Rick's departure the casual public will fade away also as there is nowhere for Francis to go with this project. Its already lost impact.
Quo are dead as a serious live act if its only going to be acoustic. Have been a shadow of their former selves for decades. Now they (it?) are dead. Only slight hope for Francis is that he goes back to regular rock shows and drops the acoustic thing but then its still not Status Quo is it.
When all is said and done, it doesn't matter. Its all over. Can't keep holding on to one fragment of the name.
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Post by freewilly on Nov 9, 2016 4:38:20 GMT
Rick stated that it was HIS idea about the whole Aquostic stuff- he seems to have his head up his own arse a bit too much for his own good. That was long before Francis took control of the whole project and made a complete bollocks of it
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Post by Victor on Nov 9, 2016 6:39:47 GMT
Yep. Thank goodness my last concert was one of the reunion gigs , hammy 2014. Absolutely fantastic !! hammy is a fucking hamster.'Ammersmith is a borough in London(the shit part). Right... Look mate, I get your point and I did not realize that it would be a problem for you to use the term hammy and if i insulted you in some way I apologize, was certainly never intended that way......but please do not just address me on it then cos the term hammy has been used by quite a lot of others. There's no need to become rude about it.
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Post by Railroad17 on Nov 9, 2016 7:07:40 GMT
hammy is a fucking hamster.'Ammersmith is a borough in London(the shit part). Right... Look mate, I get your point and I did not realize that it would be a problem for you to use the term hammy and if i insulted you in some way I apologize, was certainly never intended that way......but please do not just address me on it then cos the term hammy has been used by quite a lot of others. There's no need to become rude about it. Only messing about Vic,it's not a problem by any means.
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Post by Victor on Nov 9, 2016 7:13:45 GMT
Right... Look mate, I get your point and I did not realize that it would be a problem for you to use the term hammy and if i insulted you in some way I apologize, was certainly never intended that way......but please do not just address me on it then cos the term hammy has been used by quite a lot of others. There's no need to become rude about it. Only messing about Vic,it's not a problem by any means. Ok, in that case, I apologise for thinking it was a problem
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