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Post by MrWaistcoat on Nov 8, 2016 14:11:43 GMT
....so what do you make of it?
After 49 years...and knowing what we know about Rick's health...it is extraordinary that he has given "because I'm a rocker" as his reason (not health) for quitting the band. He says he wants no bad feeling with Francis....but the feeling certainly doesn't appear great. Francis has shot back about the rocker comment with something like "he was cabaret when I met him"
Francis seems to be enjoying the shows more without Rick (or is he?) and appears determined to continue SQ without Rick. He also seems to have done a brilliant job of turning many of his most ardent fans against him.
What I find interesting is that Francis now admits to being "confused" about musical direction etc.
On the face of it, the band is over, albeit that "SQ" without Rick look set to continue in a lighter, poppier form.
All in all...extraordinary times
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Post by markquo on Nov 8, 2016 14:38:58 GMT
It's time for them to go Cheers
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Post by curiousgirl on Nov 8, 2016 15:02:45 GMT
There has indeed. I'm not surprised by Rick's official reason. He has his pride, and as he blames himself for his dicky heart, it must give him more comfort to say, "I'm a rocker" and leaving rather than "whoops, I'm leaving and its all me own fault." I think we're all confused by life. Well I am. And people's tastes change as they age. When I was a young teenager and Desert Island Discs came on the radio, I thought I was being a rebel by saying I'd take 8 Quo tracks. "That would shake them all up", I thought. Now I my choice would be wider. Might even thrown in a classical track for good measure but I'd stop short at the accordion. My personal shockwaves came after the reunion gigs. When Francis was so disparaging about the original fanbase and dissed the gigs, I hurt. But I'm over it now. So the recent developments have affected me far less as I never followed the post 86 band. From clips, I know I'd have enjoyed the earlier days 86 - mid 90s before the rot set in as they seemed still a rocking band. But now I'm glad I quit when I did. Yes, I'm sad that this wonderful band has dwindled away to this new sound. But when I look at those Apollo photos I'm fine again. Not quite there at those gigs but I did discover the sound for myself and had some mighty fine times seeing them. One of the greatest recent highs for me was seeing the film Hello Quo. Not because it was such a great film but because I experienced again that early teenage passion. And its how I've ended up here, via the original Quo mb (as a reader in those days)
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Post by childof60s on Nov 8, 2016 15:12:57 GMT
but I'd stop short at the accordion. Davys toons auld industry!
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Post by lazypokerblues on Nov 8, 2016 15:14:22 GMT
I've just posted this on Facebook, in a discussion about Aquostic II dropping down from 23 to 43 in this week's midweek chart:
"I don't think it can help them when all the interviews focus on Rick leaving the band. When they've relied for 30 years on being this cheeky double act in interviews, and now it's 'oh the blonde one isn't there anymore, and Francis loves Marguerita Time and wants to do country music...' - it's like it's all over - and how can that be a good way to promote another album of covers. Even I, as a buy-everything-they-release fan, am fed up with it, then I'm sure it's a big ask to persuade a casual fan to buy it.
"I think the first one worked because And It's Better Now was played loads on Radio 2, and everyone genuinely liked it because it was "oh, this is Status Quo? This is really cool." Everyone likes Pictures of Matchstickmen too - so when that's played with strings etc - another reason to buy the album. Coupled with a great piece of marketing with the Roundhouse gig - and it was all set to run and run.
"Compare that to this project: This is what the marketing is like: We're playing our last electric shows, but Rick has left the band, and he doesn't like our acoustic direction. That's it - I'm not sure if they're supposed to be promoting the album or the tour.
"They've got an acoustic album out which they are promoting by playing their last electric shows, with a man down. Francis is saying he doesn't want to play electric shows anymore: that's not a good advert for selling tickets to the shows. Where's the incentive to go? Apart from nostalgia? Francis doesn't understand fans being nostalgic. It's all mixed messages and very messy."
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2016 16:28:25 GMT
Using the "N" word with Rossi is akin to using the "C" word with most of polite society - utterly unacceptable. I remember watching the documentary that went with the first FF tour and Rick and Spud saying how touched and blown away they were by the nostalgia and sheer wave of love for the band that swept on stage from the audience when that curtain dropped, of course Rossi just didn't get it. I wonder if there was a turning point for him when he became so dismissive of the fans and what they liked or whether it was just a gradual process of no longer giving a toss.
While I too am more than sorry that Rick has had to retire I am still willing to give the band a go just as I did when Spud and then Nuff left and have been more than impressed by Richie's performances at the gigs I've seen, so if Rossi is in the least way serious about maintaining any kind of reputation or building bridges with the fans then Aquostic III should be binned before the first wheeze of accordion is recorded and a proper rock album of new material with Rossi and Richie sharing lead vocals should be recorded. Then we can make an informed decision about quality and how things looks going forwards.
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Post by Tʰᵉ Wᵃˡˡ Oᶠ Dᵉᵃᵗʰ on Nov 8, 2016 17:01:18 GMT
... set to continue in a lighter, poppier form. What many of us have been saying for the past 30-odd years.
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Post by freewilly on Nov 8, 2016 17:02:42 GMT
Fans lovingly chanting and shouting "Richie" was depressing from my point of view.
The only saving grace is that Rick, Alan and John are now finally all on the same page. It's extremely refreshing to hear Rick say he is NOT a fan of the acoustic stuff. Too many lies have come from the Quo camp in recent years.
I still have no answer as to why Alan and John had Bob as their manager on the reunion tours... But, I can guess why
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Post by MrWaistcoat on Nov 8, 2016 17:14:34 GMT
It's all very weird. Rick saying he doesn't like acoustic - just as the album is out. Francis saying he has "re-imaged" SQ as an acoustic band, while selling tickets for an electric tour. Smacks of poor management planning. Agree it's all very confused.
It's not unusual for a band to continue with just one original member. It is unusual when the other three are still alive and very much wanting to be involved.
Looks to me like we are finally witnessing the fallout from the reunion shows.
It looks bad and I'm sure it is - but I'm still not sure it's all over and done. Francis is confused - and has the right to come round / change his mind / run out of other options. We may yet get a FF album. Then again, I'm usually an optimist !
Good luck to fans enjoying the band without Rick. I've been appalled at some of the s**t thrown at fans who are happy to keep going. I'd have no qualms going if they changed the name, but it's "No Rick, No Quo" for me.
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Post by lazypokerblues on Nov 8, 2016 17:33:22 GMT
I'm going to several shows. I still enjoy watching Francis sing and play. I've seen them play with Freddie, and I was entertained. Francis DOES seem rejuvenated. Perhaps having to put extra effort in to make up for Rick's absence? Perhaps having Leon and Richie on stage gives him a zap of energy? Who knows? I enjoy watching Rhino's Revenge gigs - he's a bit more full on rock, and I can see that part coming out of him a bit more now that he's singing on stage.
I'm all for it, to be honest. I'll go and watch tribute bands. I'll go and watch Francis do his solo tour. Hopefully we'll get a chance to go and see Rick do a solo tour. That sounds very exciting.
I am terminally bored with the set list. But I'll still go - just to see how good or bad they are performing. Like supporting a football team.
I'm very sad about the lack of creativity in recent years coming out of the Quo camp. Seems like Francis and Rick have fallen out over the reunions. It's just taken a couple of years to manifest itself - after all these tours are booked years in advance.
Poor old Francis - wanting to do his own thing since 1984 - and then spending the next 30 odd years just playing the same old Status Quo songs to a dwindling audience. It's brought him lots of money and a very nice lifestyle, but I bet he just wanted to be acknowledged as a really good country musician all this time.
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Post by steveh on Nov 8, 2016 18:13:22 GMT
Just feels very much "over" for me. Right now is the least interested i've ever been in the band. Seeing the FF in 2013 (just once), and as it turns out, that was the last Quo gig i'll ever attend, seems like a fitting "closure" for me personally. Yes it could've all ended more tidily, but thats life, fairytale endings rarely happen in the real world.
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Post by Buzz on Nov 8, 2016 18:17:50 GMT
... set to continue in a lighter, poppier form. What many of us have been saying for the past 30-odd years. The new advert: "Status Quo! Now 38% lighter and poppier than before!" Just go ahead and change the name to The 1910 Fruitgum Company and be done with it...
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Post by threechordboogie on Nov 8, 2016 18:43:46 GMT
What I find interesting is that for a full time touring band, all they have officially announced next year is the Australian boat trip.
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Post by Railroad17 on Nov 8, 2016 18:51:23 GMT
Fans lovingly chanting and shouting "Richie" was depressing from my point of view. The only saving grace is that Rick, Alan and John are now finally all on the same page. It's extremely refreshing to hear Rick say he is NOT a fan of the acoustic stuff. Too many lies have come from the Quo camp in recent years. I still have no answer as to why Alan and John had Bob as their manager on the reunion tours... But, I can guess why "Fans lovingly chanting and shouting "Richie" was depressing from my point of view." I can imagine a high pitched girlie type "Richie" chant.The sort of noise heard at Wembley when they give cheap tickets to schools for England friendlies against The Central Congolese Peoples Democratic Republic.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2016 19:02:36 GMT
All I can say is thank FOOOOK for the reunions . ps big respect for Rick saying how it really is, the others are purely in it for the money .
Listening to Dog Of Two Head atm , pure magic them 4 back then !
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