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Post by Gaz on Dec 9, 2015 12:36:20 GMT
On the remix of RAOTW? Imo Quos most disappointing album, so what is the verdict on the new one? Should I buy it?
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Post by curiousgirl on Dec 9, 2015 12:40:21 GMT
Yes is my immediate answer. Will give more details why later when I have more time. But... if you didn't like the songs to begin with (is my only caveat.) More later.
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Post by lazypokerblues on Dec 9, 2015 13:07:44 GMT
Most definitely yes! This is a great collection of songs that was always let down by its production. This feels like a brand new album from the classic 70s Quo because the songs are presented in a different order, some of them have been extended, and it sounds like it's been recorded in a modern studio. Listening to it is like being present in the control booth at the time it was recorded, it's fantastic. Also the fact that it was a labour of love from John Eden, with the involvement from Francis and Bob in the early days, gives it a real feel of authenticity - compared with the soulless crappy packaging for Accept No Substitute.
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Post by Gaz on Dec 9, 2015 18:44:15 GMT
Most definitely yes! This is a great collection of songs that was always let down by its production. This feels like a brand new album from the classic 70s Quo because the songs are presented in a different order, some of them have been extended, and it sounds like it's been recorded in a modern studio. Listening to it is like being present in the control booth at the time it was recorded, it's fantastic. Also the fact that it was a labour of love from John Eden, with the involvement from Francis and Bob in the early days, gives it a real feel of authenticity - compared with the soulless crappy packaging for Accept No Substitute. Ok thanks for that looks like I may have to put it on my Santa wish list.
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Post by curiousgirl on Dec 9, 2015 19:11:45 GMT
I was in the midst of writing a longer reply but my connection dropped out and I lost it. But here's the gist from listening again today.
Yes, sounds like older Quo sound. I love starting with Hold You Back. And the whole re-ordering of the tracks.
My favs are that and Can't Give You More and Lets Ride. Really heavy Quo boogie. And the instrumentals of Rocker Rollin too. Verses re a bit meh for me. Also always liked Dirty Water.
Now this is a controversial view, I'm sure. Whilst the lyrics of Baby Boy make me cringe, I prefer the music/instrumental of it to You Don't Own Me and Too Far Gone. Those latter tracks are simply macho rockers to me and lack the finesse of CGYM or LR.
I love ending on Hard Time. The opening bars give me the image of Quo waving good bye as the album comes to an end. And transitioning into the next one.
I say you've nothing to lose and at least a few gems in there. Go for it.
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Post by vivfromcov on Dec 9, 2015 19:12:00 GMT
I've only listened once so far, first the remix and then the original. I loved the remix and even BB didn't sound as bad as I remembered. I hadn't listened to my original vinyl for a few years and when the cd started, it just sounded really 'bright'. I hadn't changed the volume but it just seemed really loud and tinny and hurt my ears! I did enjoy the songs though and sang along both times and was surprised that I remembered most of the words. I think it may have been the last album that I knew really well....!
I will listen again and comment further on the remix individual songs but HYB and Dirty Water stand out for me and also Let's Ride.
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Post by Gaz on Dec 9, 2015 19:52:43 GMT
Well by the sound of your opinions, it appears Quo management and the record label made a 'global sized' blunder releasing the RAOTW album back then. Why couldn't they see/hear it? Why couldn't someone stand up and say..."ffs we can't release this... this album sounds tinny and pissweak. Having 12 songs will make the production thin and the fans will hate it. Quo are a heavy band.Is it really going to matter if we drop a couple of songs to bring the Quo oomph back into this album?". To release that album sounding so thin, after the tremendous momentum of the previous albums was a monumental stuff up imo. Thanks for your reviews....I'll look forward to listening to a beefed up RAOTW on Christmas Day.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2015 21:56:06 GMT
Most definitely yes! This is a great collection of songs that was always let down by its production. This feels like a brand new album from the classic 70s Quo because the songs are presented in a different order, some of them have been extended, and it sounds like it's been recorded in a modern studio. Listening to it is like being present in the control booth at the time it was recorded, it's fantastic. Also the fact that it was a labour of love from John Eden, with the involvement from Francis and Bob in the early days, gives it a real feel of authenticity - compared with the soulless crappy packaging for Accept No Substitute. erm... you obviously got paid more than me
I just think it's better, no doubt.
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Post by Ratly on Dec 10, 2015 6:56:09 GMT
NO
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2015 19:22:54 GMT
Well by the sound of your opinions, it appears Quo management and the record label made a 'global sized' blunder releasing the RAOTW album back then. Why couldn't they see/hear it? Why couldn't someone stand up and say..."ffs we can't release this... this album sounds tinny and pissweak. Having 12 songs will make the production thin and the fans will hate it. Simply facts from the time that explain the albums approval & release:
It was aimed at the American Market and mixed accordingly.
It was mixed to sound good on Auratone studio speakers, unfortunately they don't convey rock n roll as it should sound
The band were pretty much wazzed most of the time and very probably weren't hearing what everyone else heard.
It was the late 70's and lots of new recording kit and electronic instruments were emerging - PW tried to use them all!
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Post by Gaz on Dec 10, 2015 19:32:43 GMT
Well by the sound of your opinions, it appears Quo management and the record label made a 'global sized' blunder releasing the RAOTW album back then. Why couldn't they see/hear it? Why couldn't someone stand up and say..."ffs we can't release this... this album sounds tinny and pissweak. Having 12 songs will make the production thin and the fans will hate it. Simply facts from the time that explain the albums approval & release:
It was aimed at the American Market and mixed accordingly.
It was mixed to sound good on Auratone studio speakers, unfortunately they don't convey rock n roll as it should sound
The band were pretty much wazzed most of the time and very probably weren't hearing what everyone else heard.
It was the late 70's and lots of new recording kit and electronic instruments were emerging - PW tried to use them all!
Thanks, I never heard of those Aurotone studio speakers. Why would they do that? Why turn your back on what got the band to the red hot point they were already at? They sounded perfectly fine, on radio and on my stereo, on all albums up to BFY. As the old saying goes.... If it ain't broke, why fix it?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2015 19:53:00 GMT
Thanks, I never heard of those Aurotone studio speakers. Why would they do that? Why turn your back on what got the band to the red hot point they were already at? They sounded perfectly fine, on radio and on my stereo, on all albums up to BFY. As the old saying goes.... If it ain't broke, why fix it? It was the trend at the time for studios to fit Auratones , they were supposedly the best thing since sliced bread - they weren't! It wasn't too long before they were being replaced as a lot of 'classic' bands struggled with them (Fleetwood Mac & the Eagles being a couple). They are OK for some pop and some electronic music but anything with a bit of wallop to it forget it. We use GENLEC speakers in both control rooms in our studios, expensive but astounding.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2015 19:58:18 GMT
Thanks, I never heard of those Aurotone studio speakers. Why would they do that? Why turn your back on what got the band to the red hot point they were already at? They sounded perfectly fine, on radio and on my stereo, on all albums up to BFY. As the old saying goes.... If it ain't broke, why fix it? It was the trend at the time for studios to fit Auratones , they were supposedly the best thing since sliced bread - they weren't! It wasn't too long before they were being replaced as a lot of 'classic' bands struggled with them (Fleetwood Mac & the Eagles being a couple). They are OK for some pop and some electronic music but anything with a bit of wallop to it forget it. We use GENLEC speakers in both control rooms in our studios, expensive but astounding. Check these out
www.proaudioeurope.com/brands/genelec.html
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2015 19:59:54 GMT
That's an easy yes, even for Hold You Back and Rockers Rollin' alone.
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Post by MrWaistcoat on Dec 10, 2015 20:10:00 GMT
Buy it, yes. It's excellent and IMO a vast improvement on the original. That said, I always liked most of the songs on there anyway - if you didn't like em to begin with then a remix is unlikely to change that. For most Quo fans I'd say this is a definite must
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