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Post by paradiseflats on Aug 26, 2016 10:52:56 GMT
Francis has controlled the band for a long time. Since at least '84.
But for a long time live many people still thought of them live as Status Quo.
Francis tried to rebrand the band and sound. But this was a comercial failure, even for a while they struggled to tour mainstream venues in some cities in the UK.
Dont Stop saved them as have a number of successful compilations.
But the current live band isn't Status Quo. Well the name is Status Quo but....
Only one member of the greatest lineup.
The set features only one singer. Never mind Ricks leads, what about his harmony vocals in many songs.
For years everyone has said no one sounds like Rick due to a unique style. Has that changed ?
The setlist the worst ever. So few rocking highs, many lows.
The new Aquostic set, will also be a Francis solo set with a watered down version of Status Quo.
Like I said Status Quo in name only.
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Post by curiousgirl on Aug 26, 2016 11:10:52 GMT
Last time I saw Quo live was in 84. Next actual live gig experience was Francis' solo tour which I went to twice.
The first time I was surprised at how similar it was to Quo. Not the mad, wonderful experience of those pre 86 days. But still, very like Quo in sound. And I had gone to find out what he really wanted to play that he couldn't play with Quo. I dunno but I expected something different and much more country. Like Claudie and Fine Fine Fine all the way through the set. And not a Quo track like DWMT in sight.
The 2nd gig at St Lukes I really enjoyed because I knew what to expect. And for what it is, I still think its great. And I'm glad I have the DVD. And if I went to see him play again, I would for that experience.
Does this mean, for me, that Francis has controlled the Quo sound? No but he's obviously integral to it. And when you take away Rick, Alan and John its a version of it but not what turned me on to them.
Unlike many on here, I'm not a fan of John's band either. I've seen them 3 times to make sure. Yes, the set list is great but the supporting artists are no match for the missing three. That magic which we all witnessed at the end of the Hello Quo film is not there. That's what I want from Quo and why I said farewell in 2014. Even shed a tear or two which took me by surprise but makes sense to me.
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Post by paradiseflats on Aug 26, 2016 11:17:52 GMT
I agree what you say about Johns band.
The vocals are not a match for Francis at all. I enjoyed the gig largely due to the set. Playing a Year for example.
Yes for me to. The reunion was the end. I did about ten shows over the two years. Great as it was, it was still a watered down version. Francis just couldn't bring himself to go the whole way. Now I can respect that. He isn't the person he was and musically has moved on. I understand, I just don't prefer it.
Rick admits the current lineup just are a lite version of the classic line up. If people prefer it, fair enough. Without Rick it can't sound like Status Quo should.
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Post by MrWaistcoat on Aug 26, 2016 11:45:49 GMT
I loyally supported Quo upto the FF reunion, and have seen CQ only once since, and won't go again. I never thought I'd say this, but I want them to stop. I totally respect those that thought Quo wasn't Quo without JC (not many of them) and quit following the band. Same again AL (shed loads of them). But for me as a young Quo fan in 86, the "main two" were still at the helm, so it was still Quo. But I can't see how anyone can say Quo is Quo without Rick. I would welcome hearing from any fans that see this differently, and hope our board can discuss it maturely  I could be tempted to see "CQ" - even without Rick - if it was called something else. But I can't watch "Status Quo" without Rick As for the aquostic albums, I could possibly enjoy em for what they are if they were by another name other than SQ - but knowing they are a FR project makes them very difficult to accept as a Quo album. Basically, they are not Quo albums It must be hugely disappointing for the Quo camp for Rick's health issues to have happened this year, but they have. It's time to stop, and if the "farewell" electric tour goes ahead without Rick, I think that would be plain wrong, and really quite sad. |
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Post by curiousgirl on Aug 26, 2016 11:46:16 GMT
re: the reunion gigs. Well my initial expectation was very low. I was fearful they would be dire and make a laughing stock of the old sound. I had seen Pink Floyd play a gig on TV and they obviously still hated one another (or so it seemed to me) and did not seem to be playing as one band. That was my fear about these gigs.
But that wasn't the case. Whatever Francis says publicly, the man I saw put a lot into those 2 tours and either he's a very good actor (totally possible, he's a pro) or he had a good time at the 3 gigs I went to.
And I was pleasantly surprised to enjoy the experience again after so long.
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Post by kiwipom on Aug 26, 2016 11:56:20 GMT
Quo have played to many people and had a longevity that many would envy - most of us are pragmatists and accept that the "band" became the "brand"...
but, for me looking back, the band's evolution appears to be....
1981 - they lost their true soul and identity
1986 - they lost their true sound and spirit
some time later - they lost their true integrity
2016 - sadly they have finally lost their moral conscience
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2016 15:29:42 GMT
re: the reunion gigs. Well my initial expectation was very low. I was fearful they would be dire and make a laughing stock of the old sound. I had seen Pink Floyd play a gig on TV and they obviously still hated one another (or so it seemed to me) and did not seem to be playing as one band. That was my fear about these gigs. But that wasn't the case. Whatever Francis says publicly, the man I saw put a lot into those 2 tours and either he's a very good actor (totally possible, he's a pro) or he had a good time at the 3 gigs I went to. And I was pleasantly surprised to enjoy the experience again after so long. . He did enjoy himself.....not even Robert De Niro can act that well. They should have gone out on a high in Dublin. |
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Post by madtom on Aug 26, 2016 15:34:51 GMT
re: the reunion gigs. Well my initial expectation was very low. I was fearful they would be dire and make a laughing stock of the old sound. I had seen Pink Floyd play a gig on TV and they obviously still hated one another (or so it seemed to me) and did not seem to be playing as one band. That was my fear about these gigs. But that wasn't the case. Whatever Francis says publicly, the man I saw put a lot into those 2 tours and either he's a very good actor (totally possible, he's a pro) or he had a good time at the 3 gigs I went to. And I was pleasantly surprised to enjoy the experience again after so long. . He did enjoy himself.....not even Robert De Niro can act that well. They should have gone out on a high in Dublin. Agreed, he loved it from what I saw. Regarding the question of his acting abilities, I believe the answer lies in Bula Quo. |
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Post by curiousgirl on Aug 26, 2016 15:49:24 GMT
@colin69 madtom Of course he enjoyed himself. We weren't fooled.  And yes, I thought my "acting ability" point might bring up Bula Q to bite me. But its a bit too hot to think straight at the mo. I should have said he is a pro performer. |
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Post by MrWaistcoat on Aug 26, 2016 15:54:46 GMT
Yes he loved it, and I don't think many of us think the 2nd FF tour was money related
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Post by derryquo on Aug 26, 2016 18:08:49 GMT
Waow, a thread were I agree with everything that has been said.
And just to add to it, I am saddened by what has happened to this band that I genuinely loved abs enjoyed, but the reunion gigs were worth it all. One regret with reunion was not getting back to hammy...I was absolutely convinced that they would return to hammy the weekend after dublin. Francis has pissed me off so much now that I don't know if I even want ff again.
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Post by Railroad17 on Aug 26, 2016 18:15:21 GMT
Last time I saw Quo live was in 84. Next actual live gig experience was Francis' solo tour which I went to twice. The first time I was surprised at how similar it was to Quo. Not the mad, wonderful experience of those pre 86 days. But still, very like Quo in sound. And I had gone to find out what he really wanted to play that he couldn't play with Quo. I dunno but I expected something different and much more country. Like Claudie and Fine Fine Fine all the way through the set. And not a Quo track like DWMT in sight. The 2nd gig at St Lukes I really enjoyed because I knew what to expect. And for what it is, I still think its great. And I'm glad I have the DVD. And if I went to see him play again, I would for that experience. Does this mean, for me, that Francis has controlled the Quo sound? No but he's obviously integral to it. And when you take away Rick, Alan and John its a version of it but not what turned me on to them. Unlike many on here, I'm not a fan of John's band either. I've seen them 3 times to make sure. Yes, the set list is great but the supporting artists are no match for the missing three. That magic which we all witnessed at the end of the Hello Quo film is not there. That's what I want from Quo and why I said farewell in 2014. Even shed a tear or two which took me by surprise but makes sense to me. Hammersmith 15th March 2015.....wildest Quo night ever. |
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Post by Railroad17 on Aug 26, 2016 18:17:57 GMT
Waow, a thread were I agree with everything that has been said. And just to add to it, I am saddened by what has happened to this band that I genuinely loved abs enjoyed, but the reunion gigs were worth it all. One regret with reunion was not getting back to hammy...I was absolutely convinced that they would return to hammy the weekend after dublin. Francis has pissed me off so much now that I don't know if I even want ff again. I'll stick a list on one day of all the post 84 'episodes' that made me think "Status Quo?" |
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Post by madtom on Aug 26, 2016 18:40:44 GMT
Last time I saw Quo live was in 84. Next actual live gig experience was Francis' solo tour which I went to twice. The first time I was surprised at how similar it was to Quo. Not the mad, wonderful experience of those pre 86 days. But still, very like Quo in sound. And I had gone to find out what he really wanted to play that he couldn't play with Quo. I dunno but I expected something different and much more country. Like Claudie and Fine Fine Fine all the way through the set. And not a Quo track like DWMT in sight. The 2nd gig at St Lukes I really enjoyed because I knew what to expect. And for what it is, I still think its great. And I'm glad I have the DVD. And if I went to see him play again, I would for that experience. Does this mean, for me, that Francis has controlled the Quo sound? No but he's obviously integral to it. And when you take away Rick, Alan and John its a version of it but not what turned me on to them. Unlike many on here, I'm not a fan of John's band either. I've seen them 3 times to make sure. Yes, the set list is great but the supporting artists are no match for the missing three. That magic which we all witnessed at the end of the Hello Quo film is not there. That's what I want from Quo and why I said farewell in 2014. Even shed a tear or two which took me by surprise but makes sense to me. Hammersmith 15th March 2015.....wildest Quo night ever. 2015? Shit, I missed that one  |
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Post by gav on Aug 26, 2016 18:48:00 GMT
FR rubbished the reunion tours because he's been super-conditioned to the slickness and professionalism of CQ which was built up to mask the deep embarrassment and personal shame he lives with over his wasted, coked-up years pre-86. It's a shame it's SO ingrained that he can't help but mock both his audience ('masturbating') and the players (AL + JC) over it. I don't think it's intentionally malicious, just misplaced honesty from someone who's used to being a cocky git in front of a large, captive audience. Insecure for sure! We can't possibly walk in his shoes though, ever!
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