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Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2016 12:35:48 GMT
I suspect every famous band/person has their section of obsessive fans. I don't think its anything to do with how friendly/approachable Quo are. Its more because they are famous. I doubt that any of Quo's contemporaries (i.e. Stones, AC/DC) would have hastily released another statement because fans were so impatient. Undoubtedly, the way Quo promote themselves attracts a certain type of fan, one of which I do not see anywhere else amongst rock bands/artists. As Victor alludes to, you are more likely to find them with Take That or One Direction. The band's openness has resulted in fans becoming very attached to band members, and given the mental state of some of these fans, it is a disaster waiting to happen. When Rick not wearing his wedding ring causes a fan to genuinely think that they have a chance with him it is frightening. By allowing that fan such access to the band, it is only increasing the likelihood of something terrible happening. |
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Post by curiousgirl on Jun 20, 2016 12:50:20 GMT
I suspect every famous band/person has their section of obsessive fans. I don't think its anything to do with how friendly/approachable Quo are. Its more because they are famous. I doubt that any of Quo's contemporaries (i.e. Stones, AC/DC) would have hastily released another statement because fans were so impatient. Undoubtedly, the way Quo promote themselves attracts a certain type of fan, one of which I do not see anywhere else amongst rock bands/artists. As Victor alludes to, you are more likely to find them with Take That or One Direction. The band's openness has resulted in fans becoming very attached to band members, and given the mental state of some of these fans, it is a disaster waiting to happen. When Rick not wearing his wedding ring causes a fan to genuinely think that they have a chance with him it is frightening. By allowing that fan such access to the band, it is only increasing the likelihood of something terrible happening. I appreciate your concern for the Quo fans but I say again, fans is actually short for fanatics. And there will be obsessives amongst all groups of fans. If you look hard enough, they will be there. We know all about Quo because we follow them. I understand you have a different opinion but so far you haven't convinced me of it. Thanks for trying though. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2016 13:06:15 GMT
Maybe he was simply responding with what he thought in response to some things written and not trying to convince anyone at all? Just a thought. Speaking for myself at least, I wouldn't ever expect anyone to have to 'convince' me of anything. How arrogant would that be? Its possible to disagree with someone and leave it there, without having to sit an exam to satisfy the requirements of another poster Deepthroat certainly makes a valid point in his final sentence. The type of thing he mentions is just a few steps away from Glen Close type Fatal Attraction  That is obsessive and a long way from harmless banter about early day crushes on band members. |
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Post by Victor on Jun 20, 2016 13:13:45 GMT
I think obsessive fans are found within fans of most bands and artists, some will have more then others, but it happens among most artist's fan bases.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2016 13:36:29 GMT
I doubt that any of Quo's contemporaries (i.e. Stones, AC/DC) would have hastily released another statement because fans were so impatient. Undoubtedly, the way Quo promote themselves attracts a certain type of fan, one of which I do not see anywhere else amongst rock bands/artists. As Victor alludes to, you are more likely to find them with Take That or One Direction. The band's openness has resulted in fans becoming very attached to band members, and given the mental state of some of these fans, it is a disaster waiting to happen. When Rick not wearing his wedding ring causes a fan to genuinely think that they have a chance with him it is frightening. By allowing that fan such access to the band, it is only increasing the likelihood of something terrible happening. I appreciate your concern for the Quo fans but I say again, fans is actually short for fanatics. And there will be obsessives amongst all groups of fans. If you look hard enough, they will be there. We know all about Quo because we follow them. I understand you have a different opinion but so far you haven't convinced me of it. Thanks for trying though. I don't know the answer myself, but fan = fanatic could be a common misassumption as pop = popular is, where pop is the genre of music, categorized by how it sounds, regardless of whether it's popular or not. There's fans and then there's fans. Not all of us are fanatical about Quo as some fans are. I'm not denying that there aren't obsessive Stones and AC/DC fans out there, but the difference is that they wouldn't be pestering their respective band's management for information and going into hysterics because they feel they are entitled to be told every single detail about a person they somehow regard as more/just as important as any family or friends they may (unlikely) have. That Quo have went out their way to please fans in the past is another reason why some fans have persisted in getting info out of the management, because they know there's a good chance they'll get what they want. I go on other bands/artists sites and forums and I don't see anywhere near the level of obsessiveness as there is with Quo fans. The way the band promote (lowest common denominator, childish humour) attracts a certain type of fan, so it's no surprise that some fans are so naive, highly emotional, and as petulant as a 2-year-old trying to open a bag of crisps. |
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Post by curiousgirl on Jun 20, 2016 13:43:23 GMT
Maybe he was simply responding with what he thought in response to some things written and not trying to convince anyone at all? Just a thought. Speaking for myself at least, I wouldn't ever expect anyone to have to 'convince' me of anything. How arrogant would that be? Its possible to disagree with someone and leave it there, without having to sit an exam to satisfy the requirements of another poster Deepthroat certainly makes a valid point in his final sentence. The type of thing he mentions is just a few steps away from Glen Close type Fatal Attraction That is obsessive and a long way from harmless banter about early day crushes on band members. Well, we all read and understand things differently. When I read deepthroat's response to what I had written, and in my understanding what of debating means, I took it to mean that he was hoping I would see his point of view. I was a bit tongue in cheek about in my response because he was persistent with making a point he has already made. Otherwise, why did he quote my comment, if not to respond directly to it. And does he really make a valid point in his last sentence? " When Rick not wearing his wedding ring causes a fan to genuinely think that they have a chance with him it is frightening." I don't understand why this is frightening because all this implies is the fan's thought. It shows no intention or action taken. The most basic interpretation is exactly what a teenage girl with a crush on a band member would think. Even older people can have harmless crushses or fantasises without being dangerous or frightening. Deepthroat used emotional language in that sentence though and then you made the mental leap to Glenn Close in Fatal Attraction. I don't read that in his post. His comment only tells me what he thinks about fans who think like that. |
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Post by curiousgirl on Jun 20, 2016 13:52:39 GMT
Hey @deepthroat - to save digital space, I agree with much of your response to my post.
Fair play to you, I don't go on other fans sites, so I'm sure you're right about those groups. I was talking more widely and beyond the boyband groups. I only tried the Mark Knopfler board which was so quiet I didn't stick around.
And I'm no fan of the Quo management or promotion of this band which I have loved since the 70s. And I mostly share your disillusionment with them.
btw - not trying to score points. Did a quick look up on origin of word fan in response to you.
"Merriam-Webster, the Oxford dictionary and other sources define "fan" as a shortened version of the word fanatic. The word first become popular in reference to baseball enthusiasts."
And yep, agree that most fans are not fanatics.
My only differing view is that weirdoes are everywhere, whether or not the stars encourage their fans or not.
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Post by Victor on Jun 20, 2016 13:54:43 GMT
Hey @deepthroat - to save digital space, I agree with much of your response to my post. Fair play to you, I don't go on other fans sites, so I'm sure you're right about those groups. I was talking more widely and beyond the boyband groups. I only tried the Mark Knopfler board which was so quiet I didn't stick around. And I'm no fan of the Quo management or promotion of this band which I have loved since the 70s. And I mostly share your disillusionment with them. btw - not trying to score points. Did a quick look up on origin of word fan in response to you. "Merriam-Webster, the Oxford dictionary and other sources define "fan" as a shortened version of the word fanatic. The word first become popular in reference to baseball enthusiasts." And yep, agree that most fans are not fanatics. My only differing view is that weirdoes are everywhere, whether or not the stars encourage their fans or not. Yep, seen them among fans of quite some other artists |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2016 13:59:26 GMT
Sheep number 1,2,18,71,72,73.....143,144....500...  |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2016 14:00:40 GMT
Maybe he was simply responding with what he thought in response to some things written and not trying to convince anyone at all? Just a thought. Speaking for myself at least, I wouldn't ever expect anyone to have to 'convince' me of anything. How arrogant would that be? Its possible to disagree with someone and leave it there, without having to sit an exam to satisfy the requirements of another poster Deepthroat certainly makes a valid point in his final sentence. The type of thing he mentions is just a few steps away from Glen Close type Fatal Attraction That is obsessive and a long way from harmless banter about early day crushes on band members. Well, we all read and understand things differently. When I read deepthroat's response to what I had written, and in my understanding what of debating means, I took it to mean that he was hoping I would see his point of view. I was a bit tongue in cheek about in my response because he was persistent with making a point he has already made. Otherwise, why did he quote my comment, if not to respond directly to it. And does he really make a valid point in his last sentence? " When Rick not wearing his wedding ring causes a fan to genuinely think that they have a chance with him it is frightening." I don't understand why this is frightening because all this implies is the fan's thought. It shows no intention or action taken. The most basic interpretation is exactly what a teenage girl with a crush on a band member would think. Even older people can have harmless crushses or fantasises without being dangerous or frightening. Deepthroat used emotional language in that sentence though and then you made the mental leap to Glenn Close in Fatal Attraction. I don't read that in his post. His comment only tells me what he thinks about fans who think like that. Taking into context the mental state of said fan, how they act towards Rick, and the fact they are allowed easy access to him it IS frightening. Though, only my opinion of course. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2016 14:10:05 GMT
Tbh, its not really worth all the on screen discussion and over analysis. Quite obviously its nothing like Fatal Attraction, but then that comment was simply a lighter hearted element to a more serious post made and not meant to be taken literally and picked apart.
*Note to herself* Stick to making tea - only in dreams, though mind... 
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Post by curiousgirl on Jun 20, 2016 15:20:25 GMT
Well, we all read and understand things differently. When I read deepthroat's response to what I had written, and in my understanding what of debating means, I took it to mean that he was hoping I would see his point of view. I was a bit tongue in cheek about in my response because he was persistent with making a point he has already made. Otherwise, why did he quote my comment, if not to respond directly to it. And does he really make a valid point in his last sentence? " When Rick not wearing his wedding ring causes a fan to genuinely think that they have a chance with him it is frightening." I don't understand why this is frightening because all this implies is the fan's thought. It shows no intention or action taken. The most basic interpretation is exactly what a teenage girl with a crush on a band member would think. Even older people can have harmless crushses or fantasises without being dangerous or frightening. Deepthroat used emotional language in that sentence though and then you made the mental leap to Glenn Close in Fatal Attraction. I don't read that in his post. His comment only tells me what he thinks about fans who think like that. Taking into context the mental state of said fan, how they act towards Rick, and the fact they are allowed easy access to him it IS frightening. Though, only my opinion of course. So now we're back to that specific instance you alluded to earlier in the thread. I only picked up on that when freewilly made that clear. Okay now I understand. But the line I copied and pasted directly from your post, to which Catlady referred to as a good point, does not make that clear. It is a general point which could apply to any female fan who had a massive crush on Rick. Yes, that was sad and tragic but Rick was not in personal danger that I know of. But I accept that you find it frightening. |
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Post by curiousgirl on Jun 20, 2016 15:23:07 GMT
Tbh, its not really worth all the on screen discussion and over analysis. Quite obviously its nothing like Fatal Attraction, but then that comment was simply a lighter hearted element to a more serious post made and not meant to be taken literally and picked apart.
*Note to herself* Stick to making tea - only in dreams, though mind...
Now, now, I'm not having that. Sulk if you like. But your post which followed mine makes it very clear you wanted to make your point. Which is great. But posters will then respond.  |
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Post by Railroad17 on Jun 20, 2016 15:29:55 GMT
It seems to me that personalities who make themselves unapproachable have a bigger problem than those who realise who put them where they are.
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Post by Victor on Jun 20, 2016 15:32:49 GMT
hmmm... sheep ....
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That is obsessive and a long way from harmless banter about early day crushes on band members. 
