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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2016 20:00:04 GMT
Rick's health problems have unsurprisingly brought about heated discussions about whether it's right or not that Quo are playing without him, should people be entitled to refunds, etc, but behind all of this is the continually ignored fact that some fans (whom I would regard as making up a very significant percentage of Quo fans) are unhealthily obsessed with the band.
E.g. this quote;
It's all very well Quo being approachable to their fanbase, but this has led to people who already have trouble controlling their emotions and deciphering reality into thinking they are somehow best pals with band members, or more worryingly, romantic interests.
The openness and puerile promotion has unquestionably attracted fans of an underdeveloped mental state, which is not to say that those people can't enjoy music, but when it results in said fans' own health being put at risk then it's time something is done about it before it gets any worse.
I don't want to name names or go into specifics, but you can all remember years ago the bloke who killed himself because of Quo's open-door policy.
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Post by freewilly on Jun 19, 2016 20:04:39 GMT
Rick's health problems have unsurprisingly brought about heated discussions about whether it's right or not that Quo are playing without him, should people be entitled to refunds, etc, but behind all of this is the continually ignored fact that some fans (whom I would regard as making up a very significant percentage of Quo fans) are unhealthily obsessed with the band. E.g. this quote; It's all very well Quo being approachable to their fanbase, but this has led to people who already have trouble controlling their emotions and deciphering reality into thinking they are somehow best pals with band members, or more worryingly, romantic interests. The openness and puerile promotion has unquestionably attracted fans of an underdeveloped mental state, which is not to say that those people can't enjoy music, but when it results in said fans' own health being put at risk then it's time something is done about it before it gets any worse. I don't want to name names or go into specifics, but you can all remember years ago the bloke who killed himself because of Quo's open-door policy. Tbf, he killed himself because of his own open door policy
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Post by The Lord Flasheart on Jun 19, 2016 21:48:09 GMT
Rick's health problems have unsurprisingly brought about heated discussions about whether it's right or not that Quo are playing without him, should people be entitled to refunds, etc, but behind all of this is the continually ignored fact that some fans (whom I would regard as making up a very significant percentage of Quo fans) are unhealthily obsessed with the band. E.g. this quote; It's all very well Quo being approachable to their fanbase, but this has led to people who already have trouble controlling their emotions and deciphering reality into thinking they are somehow best pals with band members, or more worryingly, romantic interests. The openness and puerile promotion has unquestionably attracted fans of an underdeveloped mental state, which is not to say that those people can't enjoy music, but when it results in said fans' own health being put at risk then it's time something is done about it before it gets any worse. I don't want to name names or go into specifics, but you can all remember years ago the bloke who killed himself because of Quo's open-door policy. Tbf, he killed himself because of his own open door policy He lived locally to me, his family never blamed Rick for what happened. You know these obssesives are just as bad as the teenage girls who needed helplines when Take That and later One Direction split up. At least they had an excuse of being young. Ill be sad when the band call it a day or god forbid something worse happens but it won't destroy me. I was really sad and got a bit emotional when Rik Mayall died 2 years ago but never let it make me ill. Ill also admit to crying when I saw the These Are The Days Of Our Lives vid back in 1991 after Freddie Mercury died but I can now watch it and enjoy the vid as I know Freddie was saying goodbye to us in his own way.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2016 22:13:51 GMT
I've been one of the first to question any 'Quo can do no wrong stance' in the light of the handling of CQ and the choices and decisions made in connection with promotion and gigs, but when it comes to health issues then perspective adjusts to different priorities to address. Health first - and music and more especially criticism of that, put on the back burner.
There is plenty of time to return to criticism issues at an another time when hopefully there is less uncertainty about the way ahead. That sort of approach seems balanced, sensible and not especially OTT and neurotic (at least to me)
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2016 22:39:09 GMT
I've been one of the first to question any 'Quo can do no wrong stance' in the light of the handling of CQ and the choices and decisions made in connection with promotion and gigs, but when it comes to health issues then perspective adjusts to different priorities to address. Health first - and music and more especially criticism of that, put on the back burner. There is plenty of time to return to criticism issues at an another time when hopefully there is less uncertainty about the way ahead. That sort of approach seems balanced, sensible and not especially OTT and neurotic (at least to me) I have made the point about obsessive fans many times, which has fallen on deaf ears. The situation at present demonstrates more than ever the fact that the band/management encourage and exploit fans who don't know any better. If this is going to get swept under the carpet once more, there really is no hope. Not that there is a way Quo can get out of this easily. They're going to end at some point, which will send some mentally and emotionally invested fans over the edge.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2016 22:58:52 GMT
The obsessive fans returned in 2013 , a dream was made real .
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Post by madtom on Jun 19, 2016 23:05:21 GMT
The obsessive fans returned in 2013 , a dream was made real . And they (Rossi & Porter) didn't have much respect for them either.
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Post by freewilly on Jun 20, 2016 3:17:55 GMT
Tbf, he killed himself because of his own open door policy He lived locally to me, his family never blamed Rick for what happened. You know these obssesives are just as bad as the teenage girls who needed helplines when Take That and later One Direction split up. At least they had an excuse of being young. Ill be sad when the band call it a day or god forbid something worse happens but it won't destroy me. I was really sad and got a bit emotional when Rik Mayall died 2 years ago but never let it make me ill. Ill also admit to crying when I saw the These Are The Days Of Our Lives vid back in 1991 after Freddie Mercury died but I can now watch it and enjoy the vid as I know Freddie was saying goodbye to us in his own way. Rick and the dude in question were in the wrong. You don't invite some stranger to come ride your missus and expect everything to be all good...Nothing is gonna be the same after that..Especially considering he was hardcore fan, who knew what way Rick was....It's a taboo subject but.... I agree with you 100%....If and when Rossi, Parfitt, JC or AL go, it'll be emotional because we've been attached to them and they gave us amazing music that plays a part in our lives, everyday. But, I can't understand why it would break anyone tbf. Btw, on the subject of Freddie and that video, is there a video of Don't Try So Hard? The rumours don't go away
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Post by curiousgirl on Jun 20, 2016 7:47:47 GMT
I suspect every famous band/person has their section of obsessive fans. I don't think its anything to do with how friendly/approachable Quo are. Its more because they are famous.
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Post by Victor on Jun 20, 2016 7:58:13 GMT
I suspect every famous band/person has their section of obsessive fans. I don't think its anything to do with how friendly/approachable Quo are. Its more because they are famous. And because some fans just take things far too serious and become unreal in their following of famous persons. If one becomes that obsessive then something is not completely right with their mind in the first place
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Post by curiousgirl on Jun 20, 2016 8:01:47 GMT
I suspect every famous band/person has their section of obsessive fans. I don't think its anything to do with how friendly/approachable Quo are. Its more because they are famous. And because some fans just take things far too serious and become unreal in their following of famous persons. If one becomes that obsessive then something is not completely right with their mind in the first place Nicely put. And of course, the clue is in the word 'obsessive.' I'm guessing than the term fans comes from fanatics. I wonder when that got dropped.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2016 8:08:38 GMT
I've been one of the first to question any 'Quo can do no wrong stance' in the light of the handling of CQ and the choices and decisions made in connection with promotion and gigs, but when it comes to health issues then perspective adjusts to different priorities to address. Health first - and music and more especially criticism of that, put on the back burner. There is plenty of time to return to criticism issues at an another time when hopefully there is less uncertainty about the way ahead. That sort of approach seems balanced, sensible and not especially OTT and neurotic (at least to me) I have made the point about obsessive fans many times, which has fallen on deaf ears. The situation at present demonstrates more than ever the fact that the band/management encourage and exploit fans who don't know any better. If this is going to get swept under the carpet once more, there really is no hope. Not that there is a way Quo can get out of this easily. They're going to end at some point, which will send some mentally and emotionally invested fans over the edge. The reunions provided a powerful reminder of the razor edge effects the original band had on fans back in the peak period. This reaction was a spontaneous, healthy one of un-abounded joy. There was nothing irrational or inappropriately over emotional about it.
The gigs were poignant 'Life On Mars' moments - and starkly showed up the contrasts of the fan>band relationship of the original era against that of the current era.
The management is a completely different animal to that of the Piledriver era. Its much less about the music these days and much more about show business and celebrity status. Phoney gushy OTT over emotionalism comes hand in hand with this. It sits very, very awkwardly with the original ethos of back to basics straightforward rock boogie band - and hence you have the conundrum under discussion.
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Post by charles on Jun 20, 2016 9:50:26 GMT
There is absolutely no link between fans getting overexcited and the new management's policies. On the contrary as the boys are getting on, their fanbase dwindles, but the diehard fans will remain exactly that until the end. I recently read the gig report by a female Rossi fan, and her love for him was oozing from the gig review. It startled me as I thought it a bit odd and puerile, but at the same time endearing: there's still people about that absolutely idolise some ageing popstars. They might even go so far as to make tea for them.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2016 9:57:49 GMT
. They might even go so far as to make tea for them. Predictable...*Yawns*
Big difference between an obvious self deprecating tongue in cheek comment and real teen-esque simpering...
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Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2016 10:20:42 GMT
There is absolutely no link between fans getting overexcited and the new management's policies. Nope. Rather a matter of opinion isn't it. Decisions that the management make, and style of management itself, determine the promotion and music end product of the band which in turn is reflected/registered in either fan approval or disapproval.
To what extent such approval or disapproval should be expressed is a mute point, but it clearly happens in disproportionate measures, one way or the other, in some sections of people whether it is appropriate or not.
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