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Post by roadhouse on Jun 3, 2024 19:57:28 GMT
Ok so Lancaster wrote Mountain Lady, but it's no surprise to Quo fans that it's not exactly a rocker!
Don't get me wrong I really like it, a single opportunity perhaps at the time, but it reminds me of Ol Rag Blues where Lancaster wrote it, but Rossi sang it.
I think my point is Mountain Lady was pre Marguerita Time, yet it highlights Alan was perfectly capable of writing softer tunes, and singing softer tunes so why was Marguerita Time such a shock to Alan?
As a Quo fan your always trying to make sense of things, but it suggests Alan was dare I say it a bit of a hypocrite at times, no disrespect, but its how I see it.
Even the song Stones was quite soft from If you cant stand the heat.
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Post by col on Jun 3, 2024 21:14:45 GMT
Ok so Lancaster wrote Mountain Lady, but it's no surprise to Quo fans that it's not exactly a rocker! Don't get me wrong I really like it, a single opportunity perhaps at the time, but it reminds me of Ol Rag Blues where Lancaster wrote it, but Rossi sang it. I think my point is Mountain Lady was pre Marguerita Time, yet it highlights Alan was perfectly capable of writing softer tunes, and singing softer tunes so why was Marguerita Time such a shock to Alan? As a Quo fan your always trying to make sense of things, but it suggests Alan was dare I say it a bit of a hypocrite at times, no disrespect, but its how I see it. Even the song Stones was quite soft from If you cant stand the heat. Half of IYCSTH is a soft as newly laid dog poo, most of the rest was going through the motions (see what I did there?)
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Post by matt on Jun 3, 2024 21:15:31 GMT
I hear nothing in Mountain Ladt that reminds me of Marguerita time. I’ve always thought it was a groovin, driving song
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Post by allyp on Jun 3, 2024 21:36:39 GMT
Never knew why Francis sang Alan’s song here as it was never going to be intended as a single. Maybe the producer thought it suited his voice better or Alan may have thought that himself but doesn’t explain some of the fuss which came after two albums down the line?? Never too late was seen by a few as leftovers and all the superior material had been on Just supposin and Alan maybe had seen Over the edge as his preferred song?
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Post by theprogfather on Jun 4, 2024 13:41:30 GMT
Why do people always refer to Marguerita Time being the straw that broke the camel's back? Alan himself stated it was Going Down Town Tonight that he had a major problem with because no other Quo members played on it except Francis.
Very much like Ol' Rag Blues, Alan's voice doesn't suit Mountain Lady, even though he wrote it, to me it's a great song, but probably would've been only a good song if he'd sang it.
I'd be interested to hear a demo or rehearsal version with Alan singing, if indeed one exists.
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Post by roadhouse on Jun 4, 2024 18:44:10 GMT
I hear nothing in Mountain Ladt that reminds me of Marguerita time. I’ve always thought it was a groovin, driving song No sorry I didnt mean Mountain Lady sounds simular to Marguerita Time. What I meant was Mountain Lady is the more radio friendly type song that Quo knock out, and to think Alan wrote Mountain Lady opens up a can of worms in my opinion.
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Post by roquer on Jun 4, 2024 19:07:23 GMT
Why do people always refer to Marguerita Time being the straw that broke the camel's back? Alan himself stated it was Going Down Town Tonight that he had a major problem with because no other Quo members played on it except Francis. Well, I remember an interview Alan saying he played on Marguerita Time because Rossi lied him saying it was for a solo album. I love the song, really love it, every second of it, and I love the alternative mixes that were stolen from Universal's vault.
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Post by theprogfather on Jun 4, 2024 20:44:19 GMT
Why do people always refer to Marguerita Time being the straw that broke the camel's back? Alan himself stated it was Going Down Town Tonight that he had a major problem with because no other Quo members played on it except Francis. Well, I remember an interview Alan saying he played on Marguerita Time because Rossi lied him saying it was for a solo album. I love the song, really love it, every second of it, and I love the alternative mixes that were stolen from Universal's vault. No I think that's been lost in translation, Alan actually said "why don't we do that one of yours", I think he wasn't sure if it was gonna be on a Quo album but he definitely wasn't told it was for a solo album. Why would the whole band play on the same song if it was for a solo album? Not sure that's ever happened before but I stand to be corrected.
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Post by Victor on Jun 4, 2024 20:55:10 GMT
To me Mountain Lady was perfect for Francis and at the same time highlights that Alan was capable of writing damn good songs.
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Post by markquo on Jun 4, 2024 21:07:09 GMT
One of Alan’s best IMO Cheers
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Post by MrWaistcoat on Jun 5, 2024 8:18:02 GMT
I don't think anything that came before MT was anything like it. Pure country pop, so poppy a world away even from previous country efforts like fine fine fine
A shock to the fanbase that of course caused rows within the band.
Alan of course wrote A Year. I don't think the original fanbase had issues with diversions and lighter songs, whereas outright poppiness was often seen as an embarrassment
Quo picked up a new generation of fans off the back of the "holy trinity" of wyw, js and ntl. These albums had very little variety. These fans were even less likely to want the embarrassing light moments to come
I think the lack of variety on those albums made Francis want to drastically change the bands sound. How and why was the diversity of the classic Quo albums lost? If they'd kept it, would Francis have had the same frustrations?
My best guess is that the band deliberately wrote rockers for three albums because of the backlash against heat and rockin.
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Post by roadhouse on Jun 5, 2024 19:25:10 GMT
Never knew why Francis sang Alan’s song here as it was never going to be intended as a single. Maybe the producer thought it suited his voice better or Alan may have thought that himself but doesn’t explain some of the fuss which came after two albums down the line?? Never too late was seen by a few as leftovers and all the superior material had been on Just supposin and Alan maybe had seen Over the edge as his preferred song? I never felt that the NTL tracks were left overs. I actually prefer NTL to JS, but both great albums non the less.
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Post by roadhouse on Jun 5, 2024 19:27:53 GMT
Well, I remember an interview Alan saying he played on Marguerita Time because Rossi lied him saying it was for a solo album. I love the song, really love it, every second of it, and I love the alternative mixes that were stolen from Universal's vault. No I think that's been lost in translation, Alan actually said "why don't we do that one of yours", I think he wasn't sure if it was gonna be on a Quo album but he definitely wasn't told it was for a solo album. Why would the whole band play on the same song if it was for a solo album? Not sure that's ever happened before but I stand to be corrected. It's happened before when Phil Lynott released his 2 solo albums, pretty much all the band members of Thin Lizzy play on Phil's solo material.
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Post by railroad007 on Jun 5, 2024 19:29:51 GMT
One of Alan’s best IMO Cheers "One of Alan’s best" Best songs about ladies in the Australian mountains?
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Post by theprogfather on Jun 5, 2024 19:38:05 GMT
No I think that's been lost in translation, Alan actually said "why don't we do that one of yours", I think he wasn't sure if it was gonna be on a Quo album but he definitely wasn't told it was for a solo album. Why would the whole band play on the same song if it was for a solo album? Not sure that's ever happened before but I stand to be corrected. It's happened before when Phil Lynott released his 2 solo albums, pretty much all the band members of Thin Lizzy play on Phil's solo material. Yeah but the whole band don't play on one track at the same time, which is my point regarding Marguerita Time.
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