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Post by gerh on Jun 5, 2024 19:46:04 GMT
ML is a truly class track from the last proper SQ album; MT is a pure-wrong track from the 1st truly embarrassing SQ album that also had the risible and sh*te (sorry to get all technical there!) GDTT. Like the others, Alan wrote some classics and some crap.
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Post by roadhouse on Jun 5, 2024 20:24:48 GMT
It's happened before when Phil Lynott released his 2 solo albums, pretty much all the band members of Thin Lizzy play on Phil's solo material. Yeah but the whole band don't play on one track at the same time, which is my point regarding Marguerita Time. No very true
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Post by rockonquo on Jun 6, 2024 8:01:16 GMT
I luv Mountain Lady, the only problem i have with it could go for another 3 minutes with those guitars.
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Post by mortified on Jun 6, 2024 8:19:19 GMT
I probably stand alone here I think and dislike Mountain Lady as much as I do Marguerita Time. Neither float my boat in any way shape or form. Comparisons between the two are obviously not based on them sounding similar but more to do with the lightness and radio friendly nature of both compositions. Although I still think that's a bit tenuous. Lyrically, Mountain Lady is total bollox and is up there in the Stevie Nicks school of songwriting. But, not really being a lyric sort of person ![:D](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/grin.png) , that's not all that relevant. It's the faux brass and keyboards that irritate me the most. Marge is just that sugary country style song in the vein of Hank Williams or Slim Whitman that just isn't for me. There's nothing embarrassing about it. It's just a style of music I'm not keen on. The internal politics of the band were all over the place at the time. Or so it seems now. When it comes to songs, Alan never wrote anything better than A Year or Someone's Learning. Mountain Lady did him no justice whatsoever.
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Post by tqontq on Jun 6, 2024 8:58:52 GMT
I adore the Alan songs from that period. Who Asked You, High Flyer, Over the Edge, Wild Ones, Don't Stop Me Now and yes, Mountain Lady.
Sure ML has over the top production and too much synth but as a song with melody and drive, it's a cracker. Rossi's vocal is superb (but then it is on the whole album) and that guitar interplay is divine. There is no solo of course, but like Coming and Going, the song benefits from not having one and just letting the guitars jam together towards the fade out. I would love to hear it remixed with the keyboards out and the piano replacing it and just those driving guitars at the forefront.
For me it was a new kind of Quo at NTL, with one foot into the eighties sound but still a hard rocking band with a mission. Didn't last long did it??
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Post by Victor on Jun 6, 2024 9:06:46 GMT
I adore the Alan songs from that period. Who Asked You, High Flyer, Over the Edge, Wild Ones, Don't Stop Me Now and yes, Mountain Lady. Sure ML has over the top production and too much synth but as a song with melody and drive, it's a cracker. Rossi's vocal is superb (but then it is on the whole album) and that guitar interplay is divine. There is no solo of course, but like Coming and Going, the song benefits from not having one and just letting the guitars jam together towards the fade out. I would love to hear it remixed with the keyboards out and the piano replacing it and just those driving guitars at the forefront. For me it was a new kind of Quo at NTL, with one foot into the eighties sound but still a hard rocking band with a mission. Didn't last long did it?? No, sadly enough it didn't last long indeed
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Post by 4th Chord on Jun 6, 2024 9:19:18 GMT
I adore the Alan songs from that period. Who Asked You, High Flyer, Over the Edge, Wild Ones, Don't Stop Me Now and yes, Mountain Lady. Sure ML has over the top production and too much synth but as a song with melody and drive, it's a cracker. Rossi's vocal is superb (but then it is on the whole album) and that guitar interplay is divine. There is no solo of course, but like Coming and Going, the song benefits from not having one and just letting the guitars jam together towards the fade out. I would love to hear it remixed with the keyboards out and the piano replacing it and just those driving guitars at the forefront. For me it was a new kind of Quo at NTL, with one foot into the eighties sound but still a hard rocking band with a mission. Didn't last long did it?? NTL and JS were the last great Quo albums, in my opinion of course. Modern sounding but retaining the crunchy guitars and boogie.
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Post by roadhouse on Jun 6, 2024 22:00:11 GMT
I adore the Alan songs from that period. Who Asked You, High Flyer, Over the Edge, Wild Ones, Don't Stop Me Now and yes, Mountain Lady. Sure ML has over the top production and too much synth but as a song with melody and drive, it's a cracker. Rossi's vocal is superb (but then it is on the whole album) and that guitar interplay is divine. There is no solo of course, but like Coming and Going, the song benefits from not having one and just letting the guitars jam together towards the fade out. I would love to hear it remixed with the keyboards out and the piano replacing it and just those driving guitars at the forefront. For me it was a new kind of Quo at NTL, with one foot into the eighties sound but still a hard rocking band with a mission. Didn't last long did it?? NTL and JS were the last great Quo albums, in my opinion of course. Modern sounding but retaining the crunchy guitars and boogie. I actually agree with you there. I've often wondered after Coghlan left the band, was that the start of Quo losing their way? His writing credits were minimal, but in many ways when he stormed out of the studio that day, they band never seemed the same musically and all ways. Not sure if everyone would agree with me though, but it really was the end of the Frantic Four.
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Post by charles on Jun 7, 2024 9:07:12 GMT
NTL and JS were the last great Quo albums, in my opinion of course. Modern sounding but retaining the crunchy guitars and boogie. I actually agree with you there. I've often wondered after Coghlan left the band, was that the start of Quo losing their way? His writing credits were minimal, but in many ways when he stormed out of the studio that day, they band never seemed the same musically and all ways. Not sure if everyone would agree with me though, but it really was the end of the Frantic Four. You'll be hard pressed to find a single person disagreeing with you here: if a member of the FF has gone, it's the end of the FF.
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Post by col on Jun 7, 2024 13:08:16 GMT
I sort of don't get this thread, I love Mountain Lady (Sorry mortified) and I think NTL is a great album, better than JS, basically as good as OTL and BFU. To pick other points out, Alan wrote great songs that Francis sung, from Someone's Learning to Over and Done, via Umleitung, Blue Eyed Lady (I suspect Francis had a bigger contribution that Rick did, despite Rick getting a writing credit) A Year and Something's Going On In My Head. There were songs from the Margherita Time template prior to this beast being unleashed upon us, For You, Someone Show Me Home, Rock'n'Roll, even the first half of Living On A Island (save by the second half performance). Unfortunately, Marge & Rita was a single, even more unfortunately it was a huge hit, and it was the third time in four years songs of this ilk had been released a singles. I don't really have a point other than saying Quo had really lost it's way by the Back To Back album.
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Post by Victor on Jun 7, 2024 13:45:16 GMT
I sort of don't get this thread, I love Mountain Lady (Sorry mortified ) and I think NTL is a great album, better than JS, basically as good as OTL and BFU. To pick other points out, Alan wrote great songs that Francis sung, from Someone's Learning to Over and Done, via Umleitung, Blue Eyed Lady (I suspect Francis had a bigger contribution that Rick did, despite Rick getting a writing credit) A Year and Something's Going On In My Head. There were songs from the Margherita Time template prior to this beast being unleashed upon us, For You, Someone Show Me Home, Rock'n'Roll, even the first half of Living On A Island (save by the second half performance). Unfortunately, Marge & Rita was a single, even more unfortunately it was a huge hit, and it was the third time in four years songs of this ilk had been released a singles. I don't really have a point other than saying Quo had really lost it's way by the Back To Back album. Totally agree !
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Post by roadhouse on Jun 7, 2024 17:38:37 GMT
I actually agree with you there. I've often wondered after Coghlan left the band, was that the start of Quo losing their way? His writing credits were minimal, but in many ways when he stormed out of the studio that day, they band never seemed the same musically and all ways. Not sure if everyone would agree with me though, but it really was the end of the Frantic Four. You'll be hard pressed to find a single person disagreeing with you here: if a member of the FF has gone, it's the end of the FF. I know, but in my opinion the end of the band in many ways. Are to explain but everything was held in musical place while Coghlan was still there. If you compare NTL to 1+9+8+2 the sound and style is so different. Like the spark is gone.
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Post by markquo on Jun 7, 2024 17:49:09 GMT
You'll be hard pressed to find a single person disagreeing with you here: if a member of the FF has gone, it's the end of the FF. I know, but in my opinion the end of the band in many ways. Are to explain but everything was held in musical place while Coghlan was still there. If you compare NTL to 1+9+8+2 the sound and style is so different. Like the spark is gone. But live they were still a top band ,Pete was a more than capable replacement for JC. What the band lacked in the studio on 1982 and BTB they more than made up for in concert.. Cheers
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Post by Victor on Jun 7, 2024 20:06:17 GMT
I know, but in my opinion the end of the band in many ways. Are to explain but everything was held in musical place while Coghlan was still there. If you compare NTL to 1+9+8+2 the sound and style is so different. Like the spark is gone. But live they were still a top band ,Pete was a more than capable replacement for JC. What the band lacked in the studio on 1982 and BTB they more than made up for in concert.. Cheers Yea Pete was damn good live ! And although 1982 sounded a lot different from ntl, I still could like that album in some ways. But Back to Back was a compete disaster.
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Post by roadhouse on Jun 7, 2024 22:15:33 GMT
I know, but in my opinion the end of the band in many ways. Are to explain but everything was held in musical place while Coghlan was still there. If you compare NTL to 1+9+8+2 the sound and style is so different. Like the spark is gone. But live they were still a top band ,Pete was a more than capable replacement for JC. What the band lacked in the studio on 1982 and BTB they more than made up for in concert.. Cheers I'm not convinced they were any better with Pete compared to John live in concert. Nothing much changed really in terms of set lists compared to the NTL and 1+9+8+2 concerts. In some ways Pete lacked the technique John had formed over the years that suited Quo, which Pete struggled to offer I felt, this being more noticeable live and in the studio.
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