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Post by roadhouse on Mar 10, 2024 21:09:02 GMT
It's fair to say there has been loads of compilation albums of Quo, but if we analyse the 12 Gold Bar series, there was a certain criteria that had to be met for the songs to qualify being on any 12 Gold Bars album. That criteria was that the songs had to be at least a top 20 hit single. All the songs on 12 Gold bars 1 & 2 were indeed top 20 hits or higher. Now this is my point of the topic. Ironically within the period of 1986 - 2005 Quo had achieved 12 top 20 hit singles, so there was enough top 20 hit singles to compile a 12 Gold Bars 3. And possibly release Volume 3 at the time in 2005 to Commemorate 12 more top 20 hit singles. So it begs the question why was there never a volume 3 released? It seems a shame a volume 3 wasn't released because top 20 hit singles seemed to escape Quo post 2005. I have created my own 12 Gold Bars 3 for you to see how it would look. images.app.goo.gl/KYsbrRh6wjfgXmuk7images.app.goo.gl/EepekxPYgMAX9BUFA
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Post by camerst on Mar 10, 2024 21:34:38 GMT
Fair enough based on the criteria they had enough hits for a Vol 3 but even if you combined the best songs from Vol 2 and Vol 3 it becomes a stretch to call any of them gold bars. Vol 1 has 12 Quo classic imo including Living on an Island and was bought by many non Quo fans at the time.Probably Quo best compilation They probably should have left it at that.
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Post by MrWaistcoat on Mar 10, 2024 21:59:36 GMT
Quo only wrote 4 of these 12 songs. Of these, Bridges is based around a traditional jig, Ain't complainin is poor and dreamin is an embarrassment. You'll come round is the only good original , powered into the charts for two weeks by a fanbase temporarily experiencing excitement. Bridges is the only genuine hit with the public the band wrote
Vol2 was worse than vol 1 by some distance, but at least you got vol1 free with it.
12gb 3 would have been difficult to market and easy to pan. I'm glad we were spared this, although Francis did talk about that it was under consideration.
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Post by kursaal75 on Mar 10, 2024 22:23:24 GMT
It was a shame that Roll Over Lay Down wasn't the live version that entered the chart. I did a cassette tape recording of '12 Gold Bars' with the album versions of Caroline, Down Down, Mystery Song and Living On An Island
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Post by roadhouse on Mar 10, 2024 22:26:12 GMT
I just feel it was an opportunity missed because it celebrates the success of 12 more top 20 hits, and would have drawn a line in the sand quite neatly in terms of Quo's success at that time.
I always felt the 12 Gold Bar series was a nod towards the fans as a thank you for 12 more top 20 hits, but ironically we did have 12 more top 20 hits, it almost feels criminal a volume 3 wasn't released, even just to document their work.
The thing is we have had far too many greatest hits albums which really don't mean anything, but the 12 Gold Bar series cleverly documented all of Quo's top 20 hit singles, which were songs that were the biggest hits, so a 12 Gold Bars 3 almost seemed a necessity, especially when Quo's career was at a fairly low eb in 2005,a celebratory album of hits I feel would have boosted moral with fans and the band.
It seems ironic don't you think we had those 12 more top 20 hits, but a volume 3 wasn't released?
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Post by mortified on Mar 11, 2024 5:39:31 GMT
I suppose the Pictures release covered everything but I take the point about a 12 Gold Bars Vol.3 and treating it as a series.
It's not just the fact they were 'hits' after 1986. After Anniversary Waltz, there was very little exposure to these songs on TV and radio so it would just have been a sort of tidying up exercise. Having said that, if they can release a Best of the Noughties, they can release anything!
Another factor I suppose is that 2005 was just a year after the XS All Areas compilation and two in a row might have been received very negatively by fan and public alike.
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Post by roadhouse on Mar 11, 2024 11:16:20 GMT
I suppose the Pictures release covered everything but I take the point about a 12 Gold Bars Vol.3 and treating it as a series. It's not just the fact they were 'hits' after 1986. After Anniversary Waltz, there was very little exposure to these songs on TV and radio so it would just have been a sort of tidying up exercise. Having said that, if they can release a Best of the Noughties, they can release anything! Another factor I suppose is that 2005 was just a year after the XS All Areas compilation and two in a row might have been received very negatively by fan and public alike. That's a fair point, although I think I would have welcomed a 12 Gold Bars 3 compared to the XS All Areas compilation. I just feel the irony that Quo did achieve 12 more top 20 hits after volume 2, and the strict criteria of having to be 12 more top 20 hits were met, it's as if a volume 3 was screaming out to be released just after The party ain't over yet peaked at number 11 as a way to celebrate 12 more great achievements, and to document them. Maybe it's just me, but as a fan it's always bugged me. Especially as there has been lots of needless and unmeaningfull compilations that got churned out.
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Post by dennis on Mar 11, 2024 11:45:51 GMT
I was always aggrieved that the actual chart version of Roll Over Lay Down from the Live ep wasn't on the original compilation, especially as it wasn't available on any album at the time. This was subsequently reignited by the inclusion of the live version of Caroline on Vol. II.
Also, wouldn't Vol. III need to include the charity hit Running All Over The World? Maybe they didn't consider that a proper part of the Quo canon
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Post by roadhouse on Mar 11, 2024 12:00:55 GMT
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Post by tqontq on Mar 12, 2024 4:32:21 GMT
It's pretty simple. Gold Bars I entered the market at the right time in the band's career and consisted of the band's musical output and popularity at its height and with its strongest material on one album.
Gold Bars II was just a marketing ploy and they jumped on the bandwagon of the success of Gold Bars I. It was never going to compete as the latter singles were weaker.
Gold Bars III under any criteria would have only ever consisted of one quality track - You'll Come Round. The rest is ok to poor to dire and not worthy of 'gold' in the title. Bronze Bars would be too high a praise. Wooden Bars would be a more appropriate title!!
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Post by matt on Mar 12, 2024 8:04:48 GMT
I don’t understand the irony.
The only irony here is that it would have been called 12 gold bars and would have been anything but. Long gone we’re the blues based shuffle based songwriting, replaced by bland or at times plain weird song writing
12 aluminium bars. Cheap. Does the job. Endlessly recyclable.
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Post by railroad007 on Mar 12, 2024 8:35:06 GMT
I don’t understand the irony. The only irony here is that it would have been called 12 gold bars and would have been anything but. Long gone we’re the blues based shuffle based songwriting, replaced by bland or at times plain weird song writing 12 aluminium bars. Cheap. Does the job. Endlessly recyclable. Status Quo Greatest Hits 3, Fools Gold.
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Post by az on Mar 12, 2024 12:13:41 GMT
It's the tape of Gold Bars that first appeared in my brother's collection. Best gateway in existence!
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Post by roadhouse on Mar 12, 2024 13:45:03 GMT
It's pretty simple. Gold Bars I entered the market at the right time in the band's career and consisted of the band's musical output and popularity at its height and with its strongest material on one album. Gold Bars II was just a marketing ploy and they jumped on the bandwagon of the success of Gold Bars I. It was never going to compete as the latter singles were weaker. Gold Bars III under any criteria would have only ever consisted of one quality track - You'll Come Round. The rest is ok to poor to dire and not worthy of 'gold' in the title. Bronze Bars would be too high a praise. Wooden Bars would be a more appropriate title!! But isn't there a misconception of what in this instance the word gold is or was used for? As a fan I grew up as a teenager assuming the record company simply marketed the 12 Gold Bars series based on a collection of 12 songs that achieved to be top 20 hits or higher, but with a criteria of being at least a top 20 hit, hence they used that to brand the songs as a gold status. Plus Quo's singles, or indeed all their catalogue devides fans, and always has done. What I mean is some fans view the early to mid 70's period as the gold period, notice I'm just using the word gold lossely, but I could have just said their best period. So to put it another way the 12 Gold bars series cleverly releases chunks of seperate stages in Quo's career over 12 songs. So for example some fans might think 12 Gold Bars 1 was Quo's best period, then another perhaps younger fan base might prefer 12 Gold Bars 2 especially if like me you grew up with Quo within that period. Then moving on assuming 12 Gold Bars 3 did get released in 2005, an even younger fan base might actually view that chunk of 12 songs as a gold period for Quo, they we're top 20 hits for a reason you could say. I just feel the word gold is viewed in the wrong way, because non of the songs on 12 Gold Bars 2 have the gold feel about them you could say, but they we're all top 20 hits, but that could just be me how I see it. There are so many meaningless compilations that have been released over the years after all.
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Post by MrWaistcoat on Mar 12, 2024 14:12:16 GMT
Let's not forget down the dustpipe
Spent 17 weeks in the charts and peaked at number 12
I always took "gold" to mean "great"
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