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Post by Mustang Bass on Sept 6, 2023 9:58:45 GMT
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Post by curiousgirl on Sept 6, 2023 12:50:45 GMT
I enjoyed that. Glad he's enjoying his choons and chat as I have ticket now!
I also loved his point about music being so niche now. On ToTPs it was all types of pop music whereas now you can stay in a niche and never leave.
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mortified
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Post by mortified on Sept 6, 2023 14:08:24 GMT
He actually shares many of the same views I do - and probably most of us of a certain vintage - that the way music is listened to and marketed now suppresses creativity and variety. Or my perception is that it does. I dare say some 16-year olds would disagree spouting how original Taylor Swift and Harry Styles are. To be fair, it's one of the reasons that I like to watch Glastonbury, in between the fawning presenters of course. Because there is great variety at that festival. And the older acts supplement the newer ones. It's a nice balance, whatever you think of some of the performers. His views on Top of the Pops are right. I hated every second or third episode because they didn't play what I wanted to hear. But some weeks it was blinding. I fvkin' KNEW he'd like that Joe Dolce song!
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Post by 4th Chord on Sept 6, 2023 15:03:49 GMT
I fvkin' KNEW he'd like that Joe Dolce song! It was to be a cover on 'Don't Stop' but even Pip drew the line. Frame turned up to find the studio doors locked, so it was never to be.
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Post by thewildone on Sept 6, 2023 19:30:35 GMT
2.16 he says he wished he had left Status Quo.........
First time i've heard him ever say that. Wish he bloody had!!
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Post by pressbutton on Sept 7, 2023 13:00:17 GMT
2.16 he says he wished he had left Status Quo......... First time i've heard him ever say that. Wish he bloody had!! Not very nice! But if he had, and working on the principle that he said in the same interview that you don't know if you did something different whether you'd have ended up in the same place - if he had left Quo when he first thought about it, would Quo have continued?
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Post by curiousgirl on Sept 7, 2023 13:30:57 GMT
I love Francis' point that we can't know how our lives would have turned out, if we'd made different choices. That is something I'm understanding much more as I get older. Yes, I have some regrets but also lots of good surprises of paths I couldn't have predicted. And if some of my teenage dreams had come true, I could have even been in a worse place than I am now.
As for Quo without him?? From my memory, the record company deal was that it was either with Francis or no more Quo. So if he'd left, whatever band Rick and Alan might have created, they would have had to start from almost scratch. Sure they might have made it big, we will never know. But it wouldn't be like the band we have currently which still has its roots in the original band.
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Post by mortified on Sept 7, 2023 13:54:51 GMT
Had Francis left, he would not have made it as a solo artist. I don't actually think any of them would, although Alan made a brief successful stab at it down under. As part of a band, admittedly. The success of Rick's posthumous solo album was a welcome surprise but there were extenuating circumstances that resulted in it being finished off and released at all. The most likely scenario had the split happened for real in the mid-80's would have been a reunion further down the line. And probably a short-lived but maybe lucrative one. Although I like to think that would have saved us from three covers albums Had Francis left them to it, I'm not convinced it would have lasted. It wouldn't get record company backing anyway. As he says though, you just don't know how things would have panned out if you'd taken different decisions in your life. There are no parallel dimensions where your other selves are living out the various alternatives. Probably
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Post by charles on Sept 7, 2023 14:57:15 GMT
Had Francis left, he would not have made it as a solo artist. I don't actually think any of them would (...) The most likely scenario had the split happened for real in the mid-80's would have been a reunion further down the line. And probably a short-lived but maybe lucrative one. Although I like to think that would have saved us from three covers albums (...) Exactly this. Francis was needed in Quo, but so were Alan, Rick and John. As a solo artist Francis would have failed, same as Alan, Rick and John. A short reunion would have been the inevitable result. Come to think of it, that reunion would have happened far earlier than the real one, so now I'm regretting Francis didn't leave when he wanted to!
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Post by Rossi's septum on Sept 7, 2023 15:01:35 GMT
2.16 he says he wished he had left Status Quo......... First time i've heard him ever say that. Wish he bloody had!! And what do you expect would have happened if he had left? Rick was struggling with his addictions and could not write a decent song anymore, Alan would have turned Quo into a (mediocre) hardrockband. They would have had no commercial succes anymore and the record company would have pulled the plug very soon. Quo would be gone within a year or two after Frame had left.
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Post by Quoincidence on Sept 7, 2023 17:41:41 GMT
Had Francis left, he would not have made it as a solo artist. I don't actually think any of them would, although Alan made a brief successful stab at it down under. As part of a band, admittedly. The success of Rick's posthumous solo album was a welcome surprise but there were extenuating circumstances that resulted in it being finished off and released at all. The most likely scenario had the split happened for real in the mid-80's would have been a reunion further down the line. And probably a short-lived but maybe lucrative one. Although I like to think that would have saved us from three covers albums Had Francis left them to it, I'm not convinced it would have lasted. It wouldn't get record company backing anyway. As he says though, you just don't know how things would have panned out if you'd taken different decisions in your life. There are no parallel dimensions where your other selves are living out the various alternatives. Probably Can you class it as a success if they could only still manage to book themselves into playing pubs / clubs? and Ricks posthumous solo album was successful simply because it was released posthumously. It most likely wouldn't have shifted as much as it did had he not passed before releasing it. Listening back to it, it's not really a strong album, imo. I think half of the songs are decent, but 2 of them are Recorded Delivery tracks... one of which was re-recorded whilst the other was just pulled from the original mixes.
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Post by dennis on Sept 7, 2023 19:59:05 GMT
I love Francis' point that we can't know how our lives would have turned out, if we'd made different choices. That is something I'm understanding much more as I get older. Yes, I have some regrets but also lots of good surprises of paths I couldn't have predicted. And if some of my teenage dreams had come true, I could have even been in a worse place than I am now. As for Quo without him?? From my memory, the record company deal was that it was either with Francis or no more Quo. So if he'd left, whatever band Rick and Alan might have created, they would have had to start from almost scratch. Sure they might have made it big, we will never know. But it wouldn't be like the band we have currently which still has its roots in the original band. Surely you're not suggesting that Quo without Francis, but with Rick & Alan, & possibly John, wouldn't have it's roots in the original band?
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Post by tqontq on Sept 8, 2023 6:58:59 GMT
Well, if we have moved onto the conception of what would have happened if Francis left Quo back in 84 and moved onto other things. Well, that would have made me one happy Quo punter. Only because, inevitably the reunion would have happened many, many years earlier and, in the interim, we wouldn't have been subjected to seeing a once hard rock band morph into some dance around Santa two bit nursery rhyme Duran Duran Mark 2 outfit! I would have been happy if there was zero recorded output under the Quo name until HT came around (I can dream that would have formed the reunion album!) Nothing missed at all. In fact, that is exactly what happened to many fans. Swept them under the carpet for 18 years - if not longer.
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Post by charles on Sept 8, 2023 13:44:55 GMT
Well, if we have moved onto the conception of what would have happened if Francis left Quo back in 84 and moved onto other things. Well, that would have made me one happy Quo punter. Only because, inevitably the reunion would have happened many, many years earlier and, in the interim, we wouldn't have been subjected to seeing a once hard rock band morph into some dance around Santa two bit nursery rhyme Duran Duran Mark 2 outfit! I would have been happy if there was zero recorded output under the Quo name until HT came around (I can dream that would have formed the reunion album!) Nothing missed at all. In fact, that is exactly what happened to many fans. Swept them under the carpet for 18 years - if not longer. You've left out the 2nd rate country and merry-go-round guitars! I'm not sure if 'cabaret' or even 'panto' would cover all that.
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Post by curiousgirl on Sept 8, 2023 15:58:34 GMT
I love Francis' point that we can't know how our lives would have turned out, if we'd made different choices. That is something I'm understanding much more as I get older. Yes, I have some regrets but also lots of good surprises of paths I couldn't have predicted. And if some of my teenage dreams had come true, I could have even been in a worse place than I am now. As for Quo without him?? From my memory, the record company deal was that it was either with Francis or no more Quo. So if he'd left, whatever band Rick and Alan might have created, they would have had to start from almost scratch. Sure they might have made it big, we will never know. But it wouldn't be like the band we have currently which still has its roots in the original band. Surely you're not suggesting that Quo without Francis, but with Rick & Alan, & possibly John, wouldn't have it's roots in the original band? You're right, a poor choice of words. I blame the heat and my brain is melting. Of course, they would be like JCQuo wouldn't they, and maybe some new numbers.
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