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Post by railroad007 on Apr 28, 2023 20:03:50 GMT
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Post by Quoincidence on Apr 28, 2023 20:46:23 GMT
Managed to snag myself a copy of that International Musician mag. Great read - but I mainly grab it for the section on the 1975 gig recordings. Still desperate to hear those, for pro-recordings of "I Saw The Light" alone.
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Post by mortified on Apr 29, 2023 5:18:06 GMT
Excellent read, which I very vaguely remember. I'm sure I have that mag kicking about somewhere. But interesting that there seem to be official recordings hiding somewhere from that time.
Good live versions of I Saw The Light and Nightride would be very welcome! There seem to be a few recordings from 1975 but none of them have included those songs, probably because they were from gigs earlier in the year that didn't have them in the set.
Probably a forlorn hope that they'll turn up now after nearly 50 years.
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Post by Quoincidence on Apr 30, 2023 0:36:57 GMT
Excellent read, which I very vaguely remember. I'm sure I have that mag kicking about somewhere. But interesting that there seem to be official recordings hiding somewhere from that time. Good live versions of I Saw The Light and Nightride would be very welcome! There seem to be a few recordings from 1975 but none of them have included those songs, probably because they were from gigs earlier in the year that didn't have them in the set. Probably a forlorn hope that they'll turn up now after nearly 50 years. Sadly, Nightride was added much later on. I'm sure it didn't join the set until after I Saw The Light was dropped - happy to be corrected on that. Either way, we won't have a professionally recorded version of that one, just I Saw The Light
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Post by mortified on Apr 30, 2023 6:31:22 GMT
Excellent read, which I very vaguely remember. I'm sure I have that mag kicking about somewhere. But interesting that there seem to be official recordings hiding somewhere from that time. Good live versions of I Saw The Light and Nightride would be very welcome! There seem to be a few recordings from 1975 but none of them have included those songs, probably because they were from gigs earlier in the year that didn't have them in the set. Probably a forlorn hope that they'll turn up now after nearly 50 years. Sadly, Nightride was added much later on. I'm sure it didn't join the set until after I Saw The Light was dropped - happy to be corrected on that. Either way, we won't have a professionally recorded version of that one, just I Saw The Light When I saw the band in 1975, they played both. I have them both scrawled in the programme in my best teenage handwriting Maybe I was just lucky. I'll take that, though, because I usually miss out Looking back, and on another topic entirely, although it was the tour to promote the On The Level album, the programme mirrored the sleeve of the live EP. Only just thought of that
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Post by per on May 1, 2023 21:21:36 GMT
Sadly, Nightride was added much later on. I'm sure it didn't join the set until after I Saw The Light was dropped - happy to be corrected on that. Either way, we won't have a professionally recorded version of that one, just I Saw The Light When I saw the band in 1975, they played both. I have them both scrawled in the programme in my best teenage handwriting Maybe I was just lucky. I'll take that, though, because I usually miss out Looking back, and on another topic entirely, although it was the tour to promote the On The Level album, the programme mirrored the sleeve of the live EP. Only just thought of that Yes both of them were also played in Eskilstuna, Sweden, 1975. A recording exsists. There’s also a recording from Nottingham (or Newcastle?) that year when both songs were included in the set. If I could use a time machine to visit just one Quo gig I would choose a gig from 1975 when both those songs were played!
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Post by roquer on May 3, 2023 15:40:37 GMT
Excellent read, which I very vaguely remember. I'm sure I have that mag kicking about somewhere. But interesting that there seem to be official recordings hiding somewhere from that time. Good live versions of I Saw The Light and Nightride would be very welcome! There seem to be a few recordings from 1975 but none of them have included those songs, probably because they were from gigs earlier in the year that didn't have them in the set. Probably a forlorn hope that they'll turn up now after nearly 50 years. Sadly, Nightride was added much later on. I'm sure it didn't join the set until after I Saw The Light was dropped - happy to be corrected on that. Either way, we won't have a professionally recorded version of that one, just I Saw The Light The Newcastle bootleg has both, and I Saw the Light was played until december of that year so only Nightride was played in what, a month? Maybe two weeks or less?
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Post by Mustang Bass on May 4, 2023 10:46:08 GMT
From the Rick interview at the end of the original piece : "We've had changes ever since organist Roy Lynes left at the end of the 1960s. I think now we've found what we really wanted – precision. John, the things he hated most were recording, gigging, and rehearsing. And Alan Lancaster – there was a slight problem with Alan – he had a bit of a gammy right hand, and if you soloed some of his bass parts... well, Francis and I had to overdub his bass parts without him knowing to get that real 'chunk'. That's something I haven't told anybody before..."
Very interesting.
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Post by roquer on May 4, 2023 11:35:06 GMT
From the Rick interview at the end of the original piece : "We've had changes ever since organist Roy Lynes left at the end of the 1960s. I think now we've found what we really wanted – precision. John, the things he hated most were recording, gigging, and rehearsing. And Alan Lancaster – there was a slight problem with Alan – he had a bit of a gammy right hand, and if you soloed some of his bass parts... well, Francis and I had to overdub his bass parts without him knowing to get that real 'chunk'. That's something I haven't told anybody before..."
Very interesting.
I read that before, don't know if that's accurate, as I don't know if they said that again in other biographies. Maybe that's the click bait of that period for the magazines
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Post by freewilly on May 4, 2023 12:52:53 GMT
From the Rick interview at the end of the original piece : "We've had changes ever since organist Roy Lynes left at the end of the 1960s. I think now we've found what we really wanted – precision. John, the things he hated most were recording, gigging, and rehearsing. And Alan Lancaster – there was a slight problem with Alan – he had a bit of a gammy right hand, and if you soloed some of his bass parts... well, Francis and I had to overdub his bass parts without him knowing to get that real 'chunk'. That's something I haven't told anybody before..."
Very interesting.
I read that before, don't know if that's accurate, as I don't know if they said that again in other biographies. Maybe that's the click bait of that period for the magazines Think it's more of a case of Alan saying something and them saying something. Or vice versa. He certainly didn't need any help getting the "chunk" when he was playing live or any of the albums pre RAOTW when he was there all the time for the recordings...Me thinks Rick is talking balls. Like the other thread when Francis said ticket sales were up since Alan left...
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Post by 4th Chord on May 5, 2023 10:38:58 GMT
I read that before, don't know if that's accurate, as I don't know if they said that again in other biographies. Maybe that's the click bait of that period for the magazines Think it's more of a case of Alan saying something and them saying something. Or vice versa. He certainly didn't need any help getting the "chunk" when he was playing live or any of the albums pre RAOTW when he was there all the time for the recordings...Me thinks Rick is talking balls. Like the other thread when Francis said ticket sales were up since Alan left... "You know, I wanted to love that Status Quo but that bass player and singer ruined it for me. Such an improvement since he left." Fisherman and Teleboogie, 1985.
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Post by Quoincidence on May 5, 2023 10:53:08 GMT
I mean it's all but common knowledge that his bass line was re-recorded for Wild Side Of Life, so would other songs really be out of the question?
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Post by charles on May 5, 2023 11:11:59 GMT
WSOL was shite. Alan should have been glad.
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Post by dennis on May 5, 2023 12:50:50 GMT
I mean it's all but common knowledge that his bass line was re-recorded for Wild Side Of Life, so would other songs really be out of the question? was it re-recorded, or was the song just recorded without him?
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Post by freewilly on May 5, 2023 13:39:36 GMT
I mean it's all but common knowledge that his bass line was re-recorded for Wild Side Of Life, so would other songs really be out of the question? Yes, it would be out of the question completely. Do you honestly think it was a one take job, he went all the way back to Australia and they re-recorded it? Anyone who has recorded in a studio knows there is multiple takes done over several hours, if not days to get the right result. Add to that, anyone who is a Quo fan can instantly tell the different playing styles and sounds of each member. You can hear Alan's playing style over the vast majority of tracks. You can easily tell JC and all the drummers apart from each other. You can easily tell Alan from Rhino. You can easily tell when Rick is not playing on a track or album and you know when it's Francis or Pip. If they re-recorded, you could easily tell. Alan's bass lines for WSOL live are different to the studio. Sorry, but it's total bollocks and it wouldn't be the first or last time Rick talked bollocks. I was recently listening to WYW, JS and NTL. It's 100% him on all of WYW. Exception being Rearrange. That's definitely not him. Really doesn't sound or feel like him. I can only hear him on Just Supposin. NTL, the only track I have reservations about is Riverside. That would leave 1982, BTB or IYCSTH. Really cannot be arsed listening to 1982 and nothing ever stood out to me about IYCSTH from memory. BTB, they were altogether in the studio. We all know he's not on GDTT. Francis has stated in the past Alan played the bass perfectly on MT. A song Francis is proud of, loves and which he wanted it to be perfect. I'm not really sure what's left exactly If Rick meant he couldn't make it over for a recording session or something, that's fair enough and I understand that. Like Rick wasn't interested in either of the Aquostic projects, issues during TW and his injury at one point during the recording of HT. Same way Francis wasn't bothered playing certain solos or wasn't available. I get that. But for Alan to come all the way over from Australia, do a couple of takes, to be sent home and not hang around the studio with the band and for Rick or Francis to re-record the bass, without him noticing or insisting he re do it... Man, that's as far fetched as it gets. Not just for Alan, but for any musician As I said, he didn't need Rick or Francis to get the "chunk" out of playing live. It's just another in the long line of bitching and moaning from all three of them
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