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Post by Quoincidence on May 5, 2023 13:57:56 GMT
I mean it's all but common knowledge that his bass line was re-recorded for Wild Side Of Life, so would other songs really be out of the question? Yes, it would be out of the question completely. Do you honestly think it was a one take job, he went all the way back to Australia and they re-recorded it? Anyone who has recorded in a studio knows there is multiple takes done over several hours, if not days to get the right result. Add to that, anyone who is a Quo fan can instantly tell the different playing styles and sounds of each member. You can hear Alan's playing style over the vast majority of tracks. You can easily tell JC and all the drummers apart from each other. You can easily tell Alan from Rhino. You can easily tell when Rick is not playing on a track or album and you know when it's Francis or Pip. If they re-recorded, you could easily tell. Alan's bass lines for WSOL live are different to the studio. Sorry, but it's total bollocks and it wouldn't be the first or last time Rick talked bollocks. I was recently listening to WYW, JS and NTL. It's 100% him on all of WYW. Exception being Rearrange. That's definitely not him. Really doesn't sound or feel like him. I can only hear him on Just Supposin. NTL, the only track I have reservations about is Riverside. That would leave 1982, BTB or IYCSTH. Really cannot be arsed listening to 1982 and nothing ever stood out to me about IYCSTH from memory. BTB, they were altogether in the studio. We all know he's not on GDTT. Francis has stated in the past Alan played the bass perfectly on MT. A song Francis is proud of, loves and which he wanted it to be perfect. I'm not really sure what's left exactly If Rick meant he couldn't make it over for a recording session or something, that's fair enough and I understand that. Like Rick wasn't interested in either of the Aquostic projects, issues during TW and his injury at one point during the recording of HT. Same way Francis wasn't bothered playing certain solos or wasn't available. I get that. But for Alan to come all the way over from Australia, do a couple of takes, to be sent home and not hang around the studio with the band and for Rick or Francis to re-record the bass, without him noticing or insisting he re do it... Man, that's as far fetched as it gets. Not just for Alan, but for any musician As I said, he didn't need Rick or Francis to get the "chunk" out of playing live. It's just another in the long line of bitching and moaning from all three of them Quite a lot of the Back To Back stuff was reworked when they came back over to the UK, at a studio called 'The Factory'. Win or Lose, Can't Be Done and Margy Time are 3 of said tracks that were reworked there - along with Bad Company (allegedly). There's also a separate version of Marguerita Time that was only ever used the once on TV, with a completely different mix and bass line.
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Post by Quoincidence on May 5, 2023 14:04:50 GMT
I mean it's all but common knowledge that his bass line was re-recorded for Wild Side Of Life, so would other songs really be out of the question? was it re-recorded, or was the song just recorded without him? it will have been re-recorded. I'd have to check my documents, as I'm sure it's labelled on the multitracks for the Blue For You Album
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Post by dennis on May 5, 2023 14:42:27 GMT
So would All Through The Night date from the Blue For You sessions? I was always fond of that one - liked it a lot more than the A-side!
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Post by freewilly on May 5, 2023 15:10:07 GMT
Yes, it would be out of the question completely. Do you honestly think it was a one take job, he went all the way back to Australia and they re-recorded it? Anyone who has recorded in a studio knows there is multiple takes done over several hours, if not days to get the right result. Add to that, anyone who is a Quo fan can instantly tell the different playing styles and sounds of each member. You can hear Alan's playing style over the vast majority of tracks. You can easily tell JC and all the drummers apart from each other. You can easily tell Alan from Rhino. You can easily tell when Rick is not playing on a track or album and you know when it's Francis or Pip. If they re-recorded, you could easily tell. Alan's bass lines for WSOL live are different to the studio. Sorry, but it's total bollocks and it wouldn't be the first or last time Rick talked bollocks. I was recently listening to WYW, JS and NTL. It's 100% him on all of WYW. Exception being Rearrange. That's definitely not him. Really doesn't sound or feel like him. I can only hear him on Just Supposin. NTL, the only track I have reservations about is Riverside. That would leave 1982, BTB or IYCSTH. Really cannot be arsed listening to 1982 and nothing ever stood out to me about IYCSTH from memory. BTB, they were altogether in the studio. We all know he's not on GDTT. Francis has stated in the past Alan played the bass perfectly on MT. A song Francis is proud of, loves and which he wanted it to be perfect. I'm not really sure what's left exactly If Rick meant he couldn't make it over for a recording session or something, that's fair enough and I understand that. Like Rick wasn't interested in either of the Aquostic projects, issues during TW and his injury at one point during the recording of HT. Same way Francis wasn't bothered playing certain solos or wasn't available. I get that. But for Alan to come all the way over from Australia, do a couple of takes, to be sent home and not hang around the studio with the band and for Rick or Francis to re-record the bass, without him noticing or insisting he re do it... Man, that's as far fetched as it gets. Not just for Alan, but for any musician As I said, he didn't need Rick or Francis to get the "chunk" out of playing live. It's just another in the long line of bitching and moaning from all three of them Quite a lot of the Back To Back stuff was reworked when they came back over to the UK, at a studio called 'The Factory'. Win or Lose, Can't Be Done and Margy Time are 3 of said tracks that were reworked there - along with Bad Company (allegedly). There's also a separate version of Marguerita Time that was only ever used the once on TV, with a completely different mix and bass line. MT is 100% Alan, regardless of different versions. Francis said numerous times Alan played on it, as far as saying he was happy to complain and take his royalties from playing on it The others, could have been for all I know. I don't wish to listen to them again tbh
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Post by 37 on May 5, 2023 21:58:37 GMT
Rossi mentions, whilst in the USA I guess 1974, that Parfitts mouth swelled up like a melon. I wonder if this is the reason his voice in the fantastic recently discovered Big Fat Mama clip from The Midnight Special is a tad off?
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Post by Quoincidence on May 5, 2023 23:12:02 GMT
Rossi mentions, whilst in the USA I guess 1974, that Parfitts mouth swelled up like a melon. I wonder if this is the reason his voice in the fantastic recently discovered Big Fat Mama clip from The Midnight Special is a tad off? Apparently he had Pleurisy at the time
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Post by Mrs Flittersnoop on May 6, 2023 23:48:03 GMT
From the Rick interview at the end of the original piece : "We've had changes ever since organist Roy Lynes left at the end of the 1960s. I think now we've found what we really wanted – precision. John, the things he hated most were recording, gigging, and rehearsing. And Alan Lancaster – there was a slight problem with Alan – he had a bit of a gammy right hand, and if you soloed some of his bass parts... well, Francis and I had to overdub his bass parts without him knowing to get that real 'chunk'. That's something I haven't told anybody before..."
Very interesting.
Was that 1988? I remember reading that. I thought 'You played in his band for nearly 20 years, you sang his songs and he got you into the band in the first place, this is NOT your finest hour Mr P". Someone once said that Rick was too honest for his own good, but that's a funny sort of honesty.
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Post by freewilly on May 7, 2023 10:14:43 GMT
From the Rick interview at the end of the original piece : "We've had changes ever since organist Roy Lynes left at the end of the 1960s. I think now we've found what we really wanted – precision. John, the things he hated most were recording, gigging, and rehearsing. And Alan Lancaster – there was a slight problem with Alan – he had a bit of a gammy right hand, and if you soloed some of his bass parts... well, Francis and I had to overdub his bass parts without him knowing to get that real 'chunk'. That's something I haven't told anybody before..."
Very interesting.
Was that 1988? I remember reading that. I thought 'You played in his band for nearly 20 years, you sang his songs and he got you into the band in the first place, this is NOT your finest hour Mr P". Someone once said that Rick was too honest for his own good, but that's a funny sort of honesty.
I adore Rick, but Rick and honesty don't go in the same sentence 😂
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