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Post by shallwesingsome on Nov 12, 2020 17:22:30 GMT
Not so much a flaw, coz it's a great track, but I always wished Coming and Going was just longer with that great bluesy ending- would have turned into something really special
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Post by durango95 on Nov 12, 2020 19:36:21 GMT
Making Waves... Starts off promising but soon falls on it's arse.
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Post by matt on Nov 12, 2020 22:57:12 GMT
Making waves is great bar the verses
Roll the dice is the same. I love the guitar break section.
Soft in the head I’ve always loved but it could have had a solo and s breakdown
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Post by MrWaistcoat on Nov 13, 2020 19:45:24 GMT
Making waves is great bar the verses Roll the dice is the same. I love the guitar break section. Soft in the head I’ve always loved but it could have had a solo and s breakdown Totally agree on roll the dice, great mid section and great chorus. Verses diabolical. Although to be fair, anyone would be content to take a seat if the council put it in the street |
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Post by matt on Nov 13, 2020 22:54:07 GMT
Roll the Dice has a fab outro.
That council seat though. Of all the words in the English language, why those two lines?
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Post by tqontq on Nov 14, 2020 0:57:41 GMT
Yeah Roll the Dice comes immediately to mind. But so many of Frame's tunes post NTL are like that. A bit of the old Quo in there followed by his signature bland and mediocre poppy fused verses or choruses. My Old Ways is another with an odd chorus that doesn't fit. I can list many, many others.
Dust to Gold is a cracking track and will always be my fave post NTL era. I love it as it is but a sharp solo mid way would have completely sealed it me as a Quo highlight no matter the line up.
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Post by tqontq on Nov 14, 2020 1:01:32 GMT
Not so much a flaw, coz it's a great track, but I always wished Coming and Going was just longer with that great bluesy ending- would have turned into something really special All time fave, but agree with you that an extra couple of minutes of improvisation would have been fantastic. No Frame lead breaks but the interlocked guitars, pounding base and Bob's gorgeous harmonica licks are divine and to hear that go on even longer would have been bliss. |
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Post by donttastemywine on Nov 14, 2020 10:38:40 GMT
Can't Give You More. I like it, but somewhere in there is a belter of a song trying to get out.
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Post by matt on Nov 14, 2020 10:45:05 GMT
Coming and going is a great song. Strange to say why it’s all written in one chord really. I think I just like repetitive grooves
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Post by freewilly on Nov 14, 2020 12:17:37 GMT
Coming and going is a great song. Strange to say why it’s all written in one chord really. I think I just like repetitive grooves It's played in a different tuning and there are very subtle chord changes that aren't particularly high in the mix. The chorus being an example. It's the pounding drive it has, along with the melody, harmonica, the heaviness and Rick's voice is spectacular on it. If Alan or Francis sang on it, it wouldn't be as liked I don't think |
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Post by twentytwenty on Nov 17, 2020 21:30:45 GMT
Doesn’t Matter, Dear John, She Don’t Fool Me & I Should Have Known. I love all of those songs but every time I listen to them I can’t stop to think of how even better they would have been if John hadn’t left
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Post by gav on Nov 17, 2020 21:58:50 GMT
Doesn’t Matter, Dear John, She Don’t Fool Me & I Should Have Known. I love all of those songs but every time I listen to them I can’t stop to think of how even better they would have been if John hadn’t left I'm sure someone can back me up here, but wasn't John actually told (maybe around the time of the RAOTW album) to play more straight in the studio? For some reason "Don't Drive My Car" also comes to mind as an example of how bored he became (possibly quoted by himself)...
So i can't help thinking his drumming wouldn't have been so far removed from what Pete did on 1+9+8+2, just with a slightly heavier feel. You could see what was happening on the previous album. "Enough Is Enough" for example, sounds very much like a Pete Kircher performance to me. Most of that album's songs had fairly pedestrian drum parts to my ears.
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Post by twentytwenty on Nov 17, 2020 22:08:59 GMT
Doesn’t Matter, Dear John, She Don’t Fool Me & I Should Have Known. I love all of those songs but every time I listen to them I can’t stop to think of how even better they would have been if John hadn’t left I'm sure someone can back me up here, but wasn't John actually told (maybe around the time of the RAOTW album) to play more straight in the studio? For some reason "Don't Drive My Car" also comes to mind as an example of how bored he became (possibly quoted by himself)...
So i can't help thinking his drumming wouldn't have been so far removed from what Pete did on 1+9+8+2, just with a slightly heavier feel. You could see what was happening on the previous album. "Enough Is Enough" for example, sounds very much like a Pete Kircher performance to me. Most of that album's songs had fairly pedestrian drum parts to my ears.
I actually think that his best drumming in Quo was Live+Quo and Rockin' All Over The World onwards. But what I'm talking about is even when Coghlan played a straight beat there was something to it, it was almost a little shuffle blended in there. I strongly believe that a song like Doesn't Matter would have been amazing and a big difference to what Kircher did. |
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Post by sqcollector on Nov 18, 2020 12:44:35 GMT
Doesn’t Matter, Dear John, She Don’t Fool Me & I Should Have Known. I love all of those songs but every time I listen to them I can’t stop to think of how even better they would have been if John hadn’t left I'm sure someone can back me up here, but wasn't John actually told (maybe around the time of the RAOTW album) to play more straight in the studio? For some reason "Don't Drive My Car" also comes to mind as an example of how bored he became (possibly quoted by himself)...
So i can't help thinking his drumming wouldn't have been so far removed from what Pete did on 1+9+8+2, just with a slightly heavier feel. You could see what was happening on the previous album. "Enough Is Enough" for example, sounds very much like a Pete Kircher performance to me. Most of that album's songs had fairly pedestrian drum parts to my ears.
Yeah, after Blue For You the drums are just straightforward and boring on most songs. I do like the drums on Riverside, but John says he doesn't recall playing on that song, if I'm not mistaken. |
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Post by frozenhero on Nov 19, 2020 21:39:03 GMT
Well, the song does have reverb. You can clearly hear it if you isolate the side channel. Maybe just doesn't have enough to your taste. The snare could have a bit more depth, I agree with that. It was compared to Gary Moore at the time. If so, the reverb was thrown on it from a distance  I don't know, it just sounds dry and flat for some reason. The title of the song probably made me expect something else Given how much I love Gary Moore, it's probably no surprise I immediately latched onto that song. (Speaking of reverb, I was kinda taken aback when I heard Gary's "Story of the Blues" on a compilation, not knowing that it was the version literally known as "The Dry Mix"!) There's an intimacy to the way the vocal is mixed on EA that makes the lyric more believable, I think. Could've done a bit more with the lead guitar though. |
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