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Post by paradiseflats on Nov 6, 2020 17:26:47 GMT
I agree. I also hate this version. Does that mean can't give you more shouldn't by anywhere near the album either ? Artistically I see it as pointless. It adds nothing to the original. It was however on the original album release unlike 4500times which was a bonus track on the cd only. Or do we now count all cds that have been expanded as the canon release for an album ? |
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Post by cammythemortonfan on Nov 6, 2020 18:36:14 GMT
Obviously a great song. A representation of where they were playing a cover of the former lineup. Doesn’t add anything to previous live versions readily available. For my taste the production is far too clinical and the tempo too high. Rich was the worst drummer the band ever had. The thing is, for folk like me, this was the first time I’d ever heard 4500 Times. My first Quo album was Back to Back when I was ten in 1983. I then bought Army ( the split with Alan passed me by...I only knew there was something different going on when I clocked a new bass player and drummer on TOTP but just accepted it, I didn’t know anything different ) I was unaware of Ain’t Complaining and Perfect Remedy although I loved Burning Bridges . They were everywhere with BB on the telly and the jig really got in my head . The Butlins publicity and Anniversary Waltz really got my interest so when Rock Til You Drop came along, it was everything Back To Back and Army wasn’t, for me. So hearing 4500 Times for the first time , with its great guitar sound ( in my opinion ) and its musical journey was just epic to my 18 year old ears. |
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Post by MrWaistcoat on Nov 6, 2020 19:02:07 GMT
Does that mean can't give you more shouldn't by anywhere near the album either ? Artistically I see it as pointless. It adds nothing to the original. It was however on the original album release unlike 4500times which was a bonus track on the cd only. Or do we now count all cds that have been expanded as the canon release for an album ? I don't see why you say 4500x should be nowhere near the album when the "project" was to have a mix of new,covers and rerecordings? Why single out that song in particular when you could have aimed it at several ? It wasn't really a bonus. It was on my cassette version ! It was only the vinyl it wasn't on and most people had moved on from that by the 90's. I agree with you about cgym ,the original is better and I'm not even that fussed about that  |
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Post by freewilly on Nov 6, 2020 20:18:26 GMT
It's a good album...With the exception of Tommy.
I like Army and AC for different reasons...Probably because I can separate them from what Quo were actually supposed to be and what came before them but, RTYD has a "post 86 Quo vibe" that they were so inconsistent on capturing.
However, with the original suggestion by David Walker that this be a covers album along with the fact Francis, by his own admission, didn't know what to do with the band, this album should have been a wake up call!
Francis, letting his ego get in the way and Rick letting his dick get in the way, brought Thirsty Work to fruition. Looking back on it, it's incredible to see how it panned out. *
* Nowt particularly wrong with Thirsty Work but, it's clear as day it's a Francis solo album with a few Quo by numbers tracks he decided to toss in...And a song for Rick to sing for the sake of it
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Post by twentytwenty on Nov 6, 2020 22:53:30 GMT
It's a good album...With the exception of Tommy. I like Army and AC for different reasons...Probably because I can separate them from what Quo were actually supposed to be and what came before them but, RTYD has a "post 86 Quo vibe" that they were so inconsistent on capturing. However, with the original suggestion by David Walker that this be a covers album along with the fact Francis, by his own admission, didn't know what to do with the band, this album should have been a wake up call! Francis, letting his ego get in the way and Rick letting his dick get in the way, brought Thirsty Work to fruition. Looking back on it, it's incredible to see how it panned out. * * Nowt particularly wrong with Thirsty Work but, it's clear as day it's a Francis solo album with a few Quo by numbers tracks he decided to toss in...And a song for Rick to sing for the sake of itNever looked at it that way. I can totally agree, rick didn't write a single note on that album either right? It's a great album imo nevertheless. But when talking to other quo fans, on here and irl - I realize that my my taste in music is incredibly broad lmao. I also like Tommy, more the original though 😅 |
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Post by cammythemortonfan on Nov 7, 2020 10:47:52 GMT
It's a good album...With the exception of Tommy. I like Army and AC for different reasons...Probably because I can separate them from what Quo were actually supposed to be and what came before them but, RTYD has a "post 86 Quo vibe" that they were so inconsistent on capturing. However, with the original suggestion by David Walker that this be a covers album along with the fact Francis, by his own admission, didn't know what to do with the band, this album should have been a wake up call! Francis, letting his ego get in the way and Rick letting his dick get in the way, brought Thirsty Work to fruition. Looking back on it, it's incredible to see how it panned out. * * Nowt particularly wrong with Thirsty Work but, it's clear as day it's a Francis solo album with a few Quo by numbers tracks he decided to toss in...And a song for Rick to sing for the sake of it I don’t know what Francis could have done? The sound of Thirsty Work aside, Rick wasn’t contributing in the writing department at all. And he didn’t want to sing Sherri either , so that why Francis ended up doing it in an unsuitable key as it had been recorded apart from the vocals |
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Post by freewilly on Nov 7, 2020 12:34:46 GMT
It's a good album...With the exception of Tommy. I like Army and AC for different reasons...Probably because I can separate them from what Quo were actually supposed to be and what came before them but, RTYD has a "post 86 Quo vibe" that they were so inconsistent on capturing. However, with the original suggestion by David Walker that this be a covers album along with the fact Francis, by his own admission, didn't know what to do with the band, this album should have been a wake up call! Francis, letting his ego get in the way and Rick letting his dick get in the way, brought Thirsty Work to fruition. Looking back on it, it's incredible to see how it panned out. * * Nowt particularly wrong with Thirsty Work but, it's clear as day it's a Francis solo album with a few Quo by numbers tracks he decided to toss in...And a song for Rick to sing for the sake of it I don’t know what Francis could have done? The sound of Thirsty Work aside, Rick wasn’t contributing in the writing department at all. And he didn’t want to sing Sherri either , so that why Francis ended up doing it in an unsuitable key as it had been recorded apart from the vocals Then you re-record it or leave it off the album. Restless too. Can't understand how that was deemed the best cut. It's the same with PR. Both he and Rick are as much to blame. I'm just baffled at how RTYD wasn't a turning point. Then again, I thought UTI, HT and ISOTFC were gonna be too  |
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Post by asthequoflies on Nov 7, 2020 12:59:37 GMT
After submitting my thoughts yesterday, went onto YouTube and listened again - those 4 b sides are much better than I remember! Heavy Daze, Better Times, Mysteries...they are brilliant, and much better than half the album tracks. Even Dead in the Water, poppier, but very catchy and a good chorus.
The 7" radio promo of Cant Give You More absolutely rocks!
The 4 b sides, 7" CGYM, with No Problems, Good Sign, One Man Band, Fame or Money, Zombie, Warning Shot - now that is a pretty great 11 track 1991 Quo album.
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Post by cooliquo on Nov 7, 2020 23:51:54 GMT
On the point of the album, it was, and still remains my favourite of the later line ups.
For me, there's some really good songs on it. Granted, there's some forgettable ones on it too. But the good outweighs the bad.
Folk have mentioned the covers thing.. For what it's worth, I adore Quo's version of Bring It On Home.
Good album. Frantic Four? No. But a good album all the same.
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Post by gav on Nov 8, 2020 0:52:51 GMT
Talking of covers, "The Price Of Love" on RTYD isn't a patch on Quo's original version way back in 1969 - i find it kind of woeful, but that's only because i love the original so much. It was a real statement of intent back then, the first real sign of real natural rock tendencies married with the melodicness, and it still had that real thin 60's production, but seemed to fit in nicely with what was going on in the rock world in 1969 with it's monster riff. Embryonic Quo and must have been a bit of a shock for anyone who loved Quo back then for their quirky, psychedelic pop or the lush strings of the Spare Parts album. It seemed to be a pretty good amalgamation of that pop sound they had before, and the rock sound they went into on the Ma Kelly's album, but with Roy Lynes' organ sound still quite at the fore. Love it. Can't remember where i read it, but it has been said that Rossi (and maybe Parfitt also) saw another band doing a souped up cover of the song and it is there that they got their idea - obviously the Everlys having the original made it an even more attractive idea, being big fans themselves. The band was Eire Apparent, a late 60's Northern Irish psychedelic band with links to Jimi Hendrix.
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Post by Mrs Flittersnoop on Nov 8, 2020 16:49:17 GMT
Ive heard a lot of times that the sound/production of RTYD is really good, and I seem to recall that the sound is good. Sadly I shopped spinning it as an album pretty quickly. My version is the CD with 4500 on it, and to me it's largely the place where I find that version of 4500 (It's not like my view is "A new Quo recording of 4500 Times, can't be having that then, can we." I love it. ALso you get a reasonably substantial play of it when you havne't got 23 mintues.) I love Rock till you drop, same way I love Rock'n'Roll. and I like Warning Shot. I knew they did a good version of Price of Love live, from way back, because I saw a bit on telly. But trying to tackle an Everlys song when you are not the Everlys, is always a triumph of hope over expectation. And as for Tommy it gives a distubring glimpse of a Francis who really wants to do something else, but hasn't managed to make it stick. Nothing Comes Easy i can listen to with some interest if I get stuck on it by accident, partly because it's a road song. The albm would probably ahve been better with the B sides instead of the covers, but not by very much. Sorry RTYD!
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Post by dontthinkitmatters on Nov 10, 2020 20:21:09 GMT
Well I got as far as the first three and I felt after a promising opener it started to descend into the mire again. Progressively getting worse. Was about to call it a day .. but.. the intro to the 4th made me listen and caught my attention . Yeah ok that one. Dont actually mind the next two RTYD or CGYM,
Was about to stop listening at this point. So far, better than some of the others I have listened to , but hang on what's this next one! Oh dear, oh dear. I dont know about that one , reminds me a bit of 2000 Miles by The Pretenders ( but would take that over this one any day!) Turned it off halfway through as had to go out. TBC
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Post by durango95 on Nov 11, 2020 19:20:58 GMT
Can someone be so kind to tell me who sings on 'Nothing comes easy'? The whole band together?? |
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Post by dennis on Nov 17, 2020 16:54:18 GMT
Well, fairly typically bland pop rock output expected of Rossi's Quo revisiting songs they'd recorded before & the covers really added nothing in the form they've been presented here, & the rendition of Bring It On Home was sacrilegious! Why would they even attempt a Sam Cooke song?!
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Post by freewilly on Nov 17, 2020 17:04:08 GMT
I reckon Like a Zombie and OMB would fit in perfectly on an FF album.
Like a Zombie
One Man Band
Don't Mind If I Do
Solid Gold
Heavy Traffic
Creepin Up On You
Never Say Never
Twenty Wild Horses
Little White Lies
Bad News
I could hear them on an FF album
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