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Post by cammythemortonfan on Nov 5, 2020 19:29:19 GMT
I like some of the album, the covers could've been left out. Don't really know why they did that, though - bring it on home is fantastic, but it could have been included as a b-side or something like that. I've done a different track listing for this album when I listen to it and that is: 1. Dead In The Water 2. Better Times 3. Fakin' The Blues 4. No Problems 5. All We Really Wanna Do 6. Rock 'til You Drop 7. Like A Zombie 8. Mysteries From The Ball 9. One Man Band 10. Heavy Daze In my opinon, this above is a great cohesive album. I also think it's pretty funny at how Francis answered a question on if he only could play one more song in his life he answered All We Really Wanna Do - saying he thought that song would change everything for the band, but nothing happened. lmao 😅 Love that song though, especially on Rossis live album I wonder if we could get agreement on what tracks to include ? There's something special about the chorus to Dead in the water ,but imo the rest of the song is weak so I wouldn't include it. Better Times is too derivative of Rollin Home but would have been a welcome b side. Id go with Zombie One man band Mysteries from the ball Warning shot Nothing comes easy Heavy daze Fakin the blues Bring it on home All we wanna do or NP or GS 4500x That’s just it.....we all have different likes. If I had to chop down to ten I’d have : Like a Zombie Mysteries From the Ball Faking the Blues One Man Band Let’s Work Together No Problems Better Times The Price of Love Rock Til You Drop 4500 Times
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Post by paradiseflats on Nov 5, 2020 20:35:34 GMT
4500 should be no where near the album.
It wasn’t on the actual album release but an extra track to get people to buy the cd.
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Post by gav on Nov 5, 2020 21:10:33 GMT
4500 should be no where near the album. It wasn’t on the actual album release but an extra track to get people to buy the cd. Was it a B-side on one of the 12"s before or after the album was released?
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Post by matt on Nov 5, 2020 21:12:19 GMT
Listened to this in its entirety today for the first time In years.
I still think along with HT and BackBone its the pick of the post 1981 albums.
Good sound (though maybe not as good as QPQ) and a cohesive, band orientated album.
Also never really considered that they only really wrote 10 new songs for it (b sides excepted)
A few strays into embarrassing lyric territory, but overall a very solid and good album.
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Post by Quoincidence on Nov 5, 2020 21:13:46 GMT
4500 should be no where near the album. It wasn’t on the actual album release but an extra track to get people to buy the cd. Was it a B-side on one of the 12"s before or after the album was released? It was the B-Side on the Rock 'til You Drop single, but that wasn't released until January 1992.
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Post by americanquo on Nov 5, 2020 22:00:10 GMT
4500 should be no where near the album. It wasn’t on the actual album release but an extra track to get people to buy the cd. I agree. I also hate this version.
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Post by cammythemortonfan on Nov 5, 2020 22:11:09 GMT
4500 should be no where near the album. It wasn’t on the actual album release but an extra track to get people to buy the cd. Do you not like it ?
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Post by Gaz on Nov 6, 2020 0:56:17 GMT
That’s a good amount of credits on an album. I think it’s pure speculation on a few fans parts. If he was really that pissed if he surely wouldn’t have hung in to Francis shirt tails for the next billion years. Anyway he is no longer around to kill the speculation unfortunately so over and done. It didn't matter how annoyed Rick was with Francis/the direction the band was taking, he simply went where the money was, that was the reason he continued with Francis and not Alan. Rick loved living up to the rock star image and had been over spending since the70s , it was Francis who kept the cash rolling in. Certainly when Rick was out partying in Munich his lavish spending was legendary, he was about the only guy who could out spend Freddie but he didn't have the same income, certainly in the last twenty or so years of his life with divorces and spending excess he was on the brink of bankruptcy a few times and Francis always pulled him back. I guess he not only pulled Rick back because of concern for him, but probably more importantly, for Francis, was that he needed Rick.
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Post by paradiseflats on Nov 6, 2020 8:10:29 GMT
4500 should be no where near the album. It wasn’t on the actual album release but an extra track to get people to buy the cd. Do you not like it ? Obviously a great song. A representation of where they were playing a cover of the former lineup. Doesn’t add anything to previous live versions readily available. For my taste the production is far too clinical and the tempo too high. Rich was the worst drummer the band ever had.
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Post by Dark on Nov 6, 2020 9:26:50 GMT
Was it a B-side on one of the 12"s before or after the album was released? It was the B-Side on the Rock 'til You Drop single, but that wasn't released until January 1992. Was it on the CD single? I've got the 12" single and the Brits Medley & 4500 Times are listed as the b-side, but only the Brits Medley is actually on the vinyl.
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Post by blagult on Nov 6, 2020 9:38:49 GMT
It didn't matter how annoyed Rick was with Francis/the direction the band was taking, he simply went where the money was, that was the reason he continued with Francis and not Alan. Rick loved living up to the rock star image and had been over spending since the70s , it was Francis who kept the cash rolling in. Certainly when Rick was out partying in Munich his lavish spending was legendary, he was about the only guy who could out spend Freddie but he didn't have the same income, certainly in the last twenty or so years of his life with divorces and spending excess he was on the brink of bankruptcy a few times and Francis always pulled him back. I guess he not only pulled Rick back because of concern for him, but probably more importantly, for Francis, was that he needed Rick. [ Maybe or maybe not. Francis was capable of turning his own life around. The new band orchestrated a top 10 album after Ricks sad passing which is a lovely album. Gig wise they probably played their biggest festival ever at Wacken which was superb. Life / Quo goes on with and without Rick. All part of the bands incredible history !
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Post by Gaz on Nov 6, 2020 9:58:48 GMT
I guess he not only pulled Rick back because of concern for him, but probably more importantly, for Francis, was that he needed Rick. [ Maybe or maybe not. Francis was capable of turning his own life around. The new band orchestrated a top 10 album after Ricks sad passing which is a lovely album. Gig wise they probably played their biggest festival ever at Wacken which was superb. Life / Quo goes on with and without Rick. All part of the bands incredible history ! I appreciate your comment but I was referring to Tony's (bluehighway's) post on those times quite a few years back now. Back then they seriously needed each other to forge ahead.
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Post by MrWaistcoat on Nov 6, 2020 13:56:05 GMT
4500 should be no where near the album. It wasn’t on the actual album release but an extra track to get people to buy the cd. I agree. I also hate this version. Does that mean can't give you more shouldn't by anywhere near the album either ?
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Post by twentytwenty on Nov 6, 2020 14:51:57 GMT
I agree. I also hate this version. Does that mean can't give you more shouldn't by anywhere near the album either ? I think that the RTYD version takes away the meaning of the lyrics a bit that was so perfectly performed on the RAOTW version. I'm not too keen on the chanted whoes either. But I'm a bit biased here because the RAOTW version is one of my favorite QUO songs
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Post by asthequoflies on Nov 6, 2020 15:14:42 GMT
I've always felt this overrated by fans, its status more do to with the dross preceding and succeeding it rather than any inherent greatness.
It is good, no doubt, in places, and bland in others. Unlike many I don't like guitar sound on some of it - particularly on Polly and Nothing Comes Easy; odd guitar tones.
One Man Band, No Problems, maybe Like a Zombie, would be my three picks. Good Sign has signs of rocking life aswell.
Warning Shot is decent but there is something very John Farnham "You're the Voice" about it - maybe I'm the only one to hear that. Its Farnhammy in mood perhaps rather than direct musical influence. Earnest, late 80s/early 90s "issues" songs. Nice melody but not very engaging.
Title track is very bland pop, I know some rate it highly but for me it's a skipper.
The B Sides are decent with one or two definitely good enough to be on the album. Surely one could have replaced the awful nursery rhymey Tommy. That twee side of Francis is so off putting, his odd amalgam of lite pop 'n' country, coming off cheesy more often than not.
Overall a better album than what came before, but too weighed down with mediocre tracks to stand it up as great.
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