viza
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Post by viza on Dec 9, 2018 23:01:55 GMT
I don't know why but I like this song. It's not Big Fat Mama obviously but there is some thing with it that appeals to me. Strange because I can't stand most of the 80s/90s Quo. I think you have to be in a certain mood to enjoy it though.
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Post by piledriver62 on Dec 10, 2018 7:29:31 GMT
Not a terrible song but certainly was another stab in the back for the 70s QUO fan.
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Post by paradiseflats on Dec 11, 2018 7:08:03 GMT
Doesn’t make me happy. The Birdy song makes people happy, doesn’t make it a good song. It's actually called 'The Birdie Song' and not The Birdy song, a bit more respect please Mr flats! It's a 3 chord classic! In all seriousness though folks, I wish I understood the premise of there being a box of good songs and a box of bad songs in the world. If somebody declares a song to be good then the rest of the world agrees? One person's good can be another person's poison. One of those rules that remains a constant in our strange world. When Jools Holland said something about good songs always shine through, I tried hard to understand him. You either like something or you don't and that isn't about good or bad ...or ugly! The idea that some quality control should exist in something as personal and emotional as music or similar things is being too clinical by far. The reviewer just seemed to be another one of many who had to go down the road of saying all Quo songs sounding the same..yawn yawn etc etc,then has a go at BB for being a bit different but suggesting she actually wants Quo songs to all sound the same. Que? Their other critics used to whack them for not trying different styles etc. My point was that Quo learned to give little attention to these reviews or they would just go round in circles. You go round in circles with the Birdie song dance do you not?...there's some hideous footage on some family movie tapes of moi doing the Birdie song dance in 1981 and going round in circles, a bit embarrassing to be honest. Personally think there is good music and bad music. Makes me arrogant perhaps. It’s no different to saying it makes people happy. Are you sure they are happy? Like I said it doesn’t make me happy. It’s not a good song. If you are correct, you shouldn’t be critical of the reviewer after all it’s a personal choice. Does my view mean everyone must agree. Well no. However I would think a little less of anyone who likes it or the Birdy song which is shite and not a classic. Thankfully I’ve always had taste so no embarrassing photos or videos as a result of that terrible song.
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Post by Victor on Dec 11, 2018 7:47:57 GMT
It's actually called 'The Birdie Song' and not The Birdy song, a bit more respect please Mr flats! It's a 3 chord classic! In all seriousness though folks, I wish I understood the premise of there being a box of good songs and a box of bad songs in the world. If somebody declares a song to be good then the rest of the world agrees? One person's good can be another person's poison. One of those rules that remains a constant in our strange world. When Jools Holland said something about good songs always shine through, I tried hard to understand him. You either like something or you don't and that isn't about good or bad ...or ugly! The idea that some quality control should exist in something as personal and emotional as music or similar things is being too clinical by far. The reviewer just seemed to be another one of many who had to go down the road of saying all Quo songs sounding the same..yawn yawn etc etc,then has a go at BB for being a bit different but suggesting she actually wants Quo songs to all sound the same. Que? Their other critics used to whack them for not trying different styles etc. My point was that Quo learned to give little attention to these reviews or they would just go round in circles. You go round in circles with the Birdie song dance do you not?...there's some hideous footage on some family movie tapes of moi doing the Birdie song dance in 1981 and going round in circles, a bit embarrassing to be honest. Personally think there is good music and bad music. Makes me arrogant perhaps. It’s no different to saying it makes people happy. Are you sure they are happy? Like I said it doesn’t make me happy. It’s not a good song. If you are correct, you shouldn’t be critical of the reviewer after all it’s a personal choice. Does my view mean everyone must agree. Well no. However I would think a little less of anyone who likes it or the Birdy song which is shite and not a classic. Thankfully I’ve always had taste so no embarrassing photos or videos as a result of that terrible song. Although I agree it's not a good song at all that remark is one that only counts as YOUR definition of taste. Someone else might very well think you have no taste at all when they would know your music preferences. Taste is a completely personal thing and nothing else. Also I certainly don't think less of a person because their taste may differ from mine. I've had better friends at times amongst people with a completely different taste then mine then I have had at times amongst people which taste was similar to mine.
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Post by blagult on Dec 11, 2018 12:48:37 GMT
Irrespective of how we felt about it the History Books show its a top 5 hit for the band. So one of their Big successes ! And probably one of their biggest sellers being released around Christmas. Personally I find it harmless. A typical Francis / Andy Jolly, Knees up but a million miles away from being a Rock Song !
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Post by fretbuzzzzz on Dec 11, 2018 13:55:50 GMT
Irrespective of how we felt about it the History Books show its a top 5 hit for the band. So one of their Big successes ! And probably one of their biggest sellers being released around Christmas. Personally I find it harmless. A typical Francis / Andy Jolly, Knees up but a million miles away from being a Rock Song ! That's how I see it. Many of us older 70s brigade fans (me included) never had it so good with Quo playing sets made up of predominantly the 70s classics. Admittedly more set changes would have been welcome through those years and it was only with the reunions that it was clear how other tunes from the early years could have worked. Occasionally new album tracks would find their way into the set but never with any real conviction. Though some did outstay their welcome! I think of Burning Bridges as a track for a new generation of fans and something for them essentially. Something they may have bought even on vinyl back then. Then getting to hear 'their' track live on stage rounding things off and having a bounce around. I'm sure it's a trip to the bar or latrines for some but probably the majority, old and new, would get into the swing of things. On the album, BB is part of that time of Quo thinking they should be or need to be contemporary, especially chart wise and production wise. How else can you explain 'One For The Money', though I'm sure that track has some fans. paradiseflats is right that I shouldn't have been critical of a critic's review and no better in a way, especially in the times we live in today where millions of people are critics and out in the public domain, having their say. Though in the days of old, having a go a critics seemed acceptable, largely because they had so much influence. They were fair game especially when it did seem like it was a just game to them and some were more interested in making a name for themselves. Alan's 'Who Asked You' summed up that sentiment pretty well, I think.
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Post by whoaskedyou on Dec 11, 2018 15:04:20 GMT
I suspect there are many on here that have bounced up and down to this one in the past and are now in denial about the fact if they are totally honest.
Same with those that now loathe Whatever You want and RAOTW...they see these songs as joe public wedding song material not to be tarnished with the Quo of the early seventies.
They have all been top five hits so that must have had something about them.
If I was driving in the car and any of them came on the radio, up would go the volume as I don't think too deeply about these things..just as I turn up Last Christmas by Wham..could not give a toss what others think.
Don't get me wrong I can marvel at the delights of Lonely Man, A Yeah, Blue Eyed Lady, etc etc..but I don't deny myself the more pop orientated side of Quo if it is a toe tapper.
Just my view of course.
Peace and love to all as we head towards Christmas..might even put It's Christmas Time on the CD player tonight.
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Post by Victor on Dec 11, 2018 18:35:42 GMT
I suspect there are many on here that have bounced up and down to this one in the past and are now in denial about the fact if they are totally honest.
Same with those that now loathe Whatever You want and RAOTW...they see these songs as joe public wedding song material not to be tarnished with the Quo of the early seventies.They have all been top five hits so that must have had something about them. If I was driving in the car and any of them came on the radio, up would go the volume as I don't think too deeply about these things..just as I turn up Last Christmas by Wham..could not give a toss what others think. Don't get me wrong I can marvel at the delights of Lonely Man, A Yeah, Blue Eyed Lady, etc etc..but I don't deny myself the more pop orientated side of Quo if it is a toe tapper. Just my view of course. Peace and love to all as we head towards Christmas..might even put It's Christmas Time on the CD player tonight. How do you know there would be many who think like that ? I am not so sure of that. I know I don't and it may well be possible more think along that line. I have never jumped up and down to that song and never will because it simply doesn't have that attraction for me at all. Why ? Because I think it's a bad song. As far as WYW and RAOTW goes: I think there are many people who know that seeing those as joe public wedding songs is complete nonsense. Those songs are songs from the time that Quo was being Quo. I certainly liked those songs in the beginning. Now I don't like them at all anymore. Why ? Not because I am in denial. They are good quo songs. But simply because I got bored with them. Why ? Because they have been so totally overplayed that they got boring as heck to me. Nothing unusual. Any song from any of my favorite bands that I would hear too often would get boring to me. They will sound as new again if you wait some years to play them again.
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Post by frozenhero on Dec 12, 2018 11:22:10 GMT
Burning Bridges made the place go mental at Rock Meets Classic! It still works, and I think it's fair to say not all the attendants were Quo fans (although Francis was the headlining act).
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Post by whoaskedyou on Dec 12, 2018 16:04:35 GMT
I suspect there are many on here that have bounced up and down to this one in the past and are now in denial about the fact if they are totally honest.
Same with those that now loathe Whatever You want and RAOTW...they see these songs as joe public wedding song material not to be tarnished with the Quo of the early seventies.They have all been top five hits so that must have had something about them. If I was driving in the car and any of them came on the radio, up would go the volume as I don't think too deeply about these things..just as I turn up Last Christmas by Wham..could not give a toss what others think. Don't get me wrong I can marvel at the delights of Lonely Man, A Yeah, Blue Eyed Lady, etc etc..but I don't deny myself the more pop orientated side of Quo if it is a toe tapper. Just my view of course. Peace and love to all as we head towards Christmas..might even put It's Christmas Time on the CD player tonight. How do you know there would be many who think like that ? I am not so sure of that. I know I don't and it may well be possible more think along that line. I have never jumped up and down to that song and never will because it simply doesn't have that attraction for me at all. Why ? Because I think it's a bad song. As far as WYW and RAOTW goes: I think there are many people who know that seeing those as joe public wedding songs is complete nonsense. Those songs are songs from the time that Quo was being Quo. I certainly liked those songs in the beginning. Now I don't like them at all anymore. Why ? Not because I am in denial. They are good quo songs. But simply because I got bored with them. Why ? Because they have been so totally overplayed that they got boring as heck to me. Nothing unusual. Any song from any of my favorite bands that I would hear too often would get boring to me. They will sound as new again if you wait some years to play I did use the word suspect so yes just a feeling i have..chill...with regard to RAOTW..i dont think it is nonsense what i said..there are a number of people who talk about that song being the end of old Quo and the start of pop Quo along with comments about taking a piss break when if comes on in the set..still a great song in my view
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Post by Victor on Dec 12, 2018 16:12:51 GMT
How do you know there would be many who think like that ? I am not so sure of that. I know I don't and it may well be possible more think along that line. I have never jumped up and down to that song and never will because it simply doesn't have that attraction for me at all. Why ? Because I think it's a bad song. As far as WYW and RAOTW goes: I think there are many people who know that seeing those as joe public wedding songs is complete nonsense. Those songs are songs from the time that Quo was being Quo. I certainly liked those songs in the beginning. Now I don't like them at all anymore. Why ? Not because I am in denial. They are good quo songs. But simply because I got bored with them. Why ? Because they have been so totally overplayed that they got boring as heck to me. Nothing unusual. Any song from any of my favorite bands that I would hear too often would get boring to me. They will sound as new again if you wait some years to play I did use the word suspect so yes just a feeling i have..chill...with regard to RAOTW..i dont think it is nonsense what i said..there are a number of people who talk about that song being the end of old Quo and the start of pop Quo along with comments about taking a piss break when if comes on in the set..still a great song in my view Lol, no need for me to chill at all, I was simply responding to what I read. I didnt say what you said was nonsense, what I said was that 'there are many people who know that calling songs like WYW and RAOTW joe public wedding songs is nonsense
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Post by gentlemanjoe on Dec 12, 2018 18:28:29 GMT
Irrespective of how we felt about it the History Books show its a top 5 hit for the band. So one of their Big successes ! And probably one of their biggest sellers being released around Christmas. Personally I find it harmless. A typical Francis / Andy Jolly, Knees up but a million miles away from being a Rock Song ! It’s derivative tripe, Chas n ‘Dave wouldn’t have released this kind of twee gibberish.
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Post by fretbuzzzzz on Dec 12, 2018 21:15:28 GMT
I suspect there are many on here that have bounced up and down to this one in the past and are now in denial about the fact if they are totally honest. Same with those that now loathe Whatever You want and RAOTW...they see these songs as joe public wedding song material not to be tarnished with the Quo of the early seventies. They have all been top five hits so that must have had something about them. If I was driving in the car and any of them came on the radio, up would go the volume as I don't think too deeply about these things..just as I turn up Last Christmas by Wham..could not give a toss what others think. Don't get me wrong I can marvel at the delights of Lonely Man, A Yeah, Blue Eyed Lady, etc etc..but I don't deny myself the more pop orientated side of Quo if it is a toe tapper. Just my view of course. Peace and love to all as we head towards Christmas..might even put It's Christmas Time on the CD player tonight. With Burning Bridges being released at xmas time it will have that connection that many (..a few, or some etc, to cover all bases!) of us associate with it. Especially as the Quo UK gigs at Christmas became as traditional as mince pies and Burning Bridges would usually get wheeled out! For me, Burning Bridges is in a similar vein to Mike Oldfield's 'In Dulce Jubilo' or his track that came out in time for xmas a year later called 'Portsmouth'. Intellectualising about them, or trying to pigeon hole them in terms of good or bad, is pointless and meaningless. The over exposure of Rockin' and WYW does seem to have devalued them in different ways. Agree that they can be seen as party songs, advert songs or wedding songs and the thumbs in belts and doing the Tiger Feet dance songs!
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Post by gentlemanjoe on Dec 12, 2018 21:36:26 GMT
The melody of Burning Bridges is taken directly from an old Irish jig, demonstrates that was the best they could come up with By late 80’s. If that was the best thing they could throw out as a a single it shows what a shambles rest of album was. Then it got worse.. they couldn’t come up with a melody if their life depended on it, hence the jive bunny singles
Hilariously They also stole (borrowed) with no sense of irony or even a nod to Spinal Taps riff from ‘Gimme Some Money’ for Creepin’ Up on You. And Rick knew this(an oin joke probably)
Check it out on YouTube
Parody imitating parody, 😂😂 you couldn’t make it up. Alan must have been laughing himsen daft
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Post by fretbuzzzzz on Dec 12, 2018 22:14:26 GMT
The melody of Burning Bridges is taken directly from an old Irish jig, demonstrates that was the best they could come up with By late 80’s. If that was the best thing they could throw out as a a single it shows what a shambles rest of album was. Then it got worse.. they couldn’t come up with a melody if their life depended on it, hence the jive bunny singles Hilariously They also stole (borrowed) with no sense of irony or even a nod to Spinal Taps riff from ‘Gimme Some Money’ for Creepin’ Up on You. And Rick knew this(an oin joke probably) Check it out on YouTube Parody imitating parody, 😂😂 you couldn’t make it up. Alan must have been laughing himsen daft I'm not sure Alan is completely blameless in the scheme of things is he?... for instance 'the bit' (as Rossi calls it!) in Roadhouse Blues on the Glasgow live album is The Mexican Hat Dance jig. Personally don't see anything particularly credible about that, compared to other stuff, but fans seem to love that in the song. Or a case of acceptable as an interlude but not acceptable when the basis of an entire song, maybe?
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