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Post by slowtrain7 on Apr 18, 2017 1:36:08 GMT
Was Alan the only man to ever truly care what we wanted and felt as fans. Granted, I'm sure John and Rick did too but, Alan stood for it and sadly, paid the price . Alan didn't want to be associated with Marguerita Time and I don't blame him. What a terrible song, it's no BIG FAT MAMA Alan knew that their finances were being mismanaged. Alan knew something was going wrong and he was right. QUO fans discuss this.
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Post by Gaz on Apr 18, 2017 4:51:54 GMT
Are you related to TVQ? ;-)
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Post by Victor on Apr 18, 2017 5:25:02 GMT
Are you related to TVQ? ;-) Haven't seen him around for quite some time, wonder how he's doing..
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Post by Gaz on Apr 18, 2017 5:51:58 GMT
Are you related to TVQ? ;-) Haven't seen him around for quite some time, wonder how he's doing.. ...and just I was getting to appreciate his poetry. :-D
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Post by The Lord Flasheart on Apr 18, 2017 7:11:48 GMT
Alan was right that they were being ripped off. However he went about sorting it out the wrong way, supposedly he went into the offices shouting the odds to the management so they took that and worked on the drug addled pair to help get rid of a "problem" as they saw it.
I agree that he saw things on the more heavy side but the stuff he was producing in that style was not much better than the more country influenced stuff that Francis was releasing. In order for Quo to work properly you needed the heaviness of Alan's influence. Plus the melody from Francis influence, that gave us the proper Quo sound.
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Post by charliechops on Apr 18, 2017 7:52:09 GMT
Alan was right that they were being ripped off. However he went about sorting it out the wrong way, supposedly he went into the offices shouting the odds to the management so they took that and worked on the drug addled pair to help get rid of a "problem" as they saw it. I agree that he saw things on the more heavy side but the stuff he was producing in that style was not much better than the more country influenced stuff that Francis was releasing. In order for Quo to work properly you needed the heaviness of Alan's influence. Plus the melody from Francis influence, that gave us the proper Quo sound. Flash , maybe he should have written an updated version of " Death on two legs " .
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Post by slowtrain7 on Apr 19, 2017 6:19:32 GMT
The Lord Flasheart makes a couple of insightful comments, I sincerely thank him for that. "Alan was right that they were being ripped off. However he went about sorting it out the wrong way, supposedly he went into the offices shouting the odds to the management so they took that and worked on the drug addled pair to help get rid of a "problem" as they saw it. I agree that he saw things on the more heavy side but the stuff he was producing in that style was not much better than the more country influenced stuff that Francis was releasing. In order for Quo to work properly you needed the heaviness of Alan's influence. Plus the melody from Francis influence, that gave us the proper Quo sound." Years ago I saw a Gary Larson cartoon where 2 workman were carrying a very large mirror in the street. A man was yelling out that everyone had to beware because there were a lot of Vampires nearby, yet there were no reflections in the mirror. Lancaster was that man warning the Vampires that there were Vampires. Read more: statusquo.boards.net/thread/7943/alan-man-truly-care-wanted#ixzz4efmrE5t3
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Post by Mrs Flittersnoop on Apr 19, 2017 9:59:58 GMT
I don't think Alan, bless him, sat down and said to himself "I will sacrifice myself and my family and all that I hold dear, even my moustache, so that the fans who came to our 1970s gigs and had such a great time will always have exactly what they want to have and never be miffed."
I think he would have snorted. (Not cocaine. OK, maybe cocaine, but that wasn't the snort I was thinking of.)
But I think he would have been more likely to sit down and think things through in that way than either Francis (who was used to being manipulated by his mum and didn't like it much, whether by fans or by press, in fact he seems to have spent quite a bit of time over-reacting against what people say) or Rick (who was lovingly spoiled by his mum, and generally always took the easiest route in any situation).
OK, so the answer coming out of this is, it's always the fault of someone's mum. Wasn't it Alan's mum who encouraged and looked after the band when they were young? My case rests.
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Post by slowtrain7 on Apr 19, 2017 10:21:05 GMT
I don't think Alan, bless him, sat down and said to himself "I will sacrifice myself and my family and all that I hold dear, even my moustache, so that the fans who came to our 1970s gigs and had such a great time will always have exactly what they want to have and never be miffed." I think he would have snorted. (Not cocaine. OK, maybe cocaine, but that wasn't the snort I was thinking of.) But I think he would have been more likely to sit down and think things through in that way than either Francis (who was used to being manipulated by his mum and didn't like it much, whether by fans or by press, in fact he seems to have spent quite a bit of time over-reacting against what people say) or Rick (who was lovingly spoiled by his mum, and generally always took the easiest route in any situation). OK, so the answer coming out of this is, it's always the fault of someone's mum. Wasn't it Alan's mum who encouraged and looked after the band when they were young? My case rests.
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Post by slowtrain7 on Apr 19, 2017 10:47:56 GMT
Yes, Mrs Flittersnoop, Alan's Mum was very supportive, she drove them to their very early gigs. How many Mums would do that? I'm a massive Lancaster supporter. Rick-very easy going, don't make waves. Francis- manipulative dictator? like his Mum? John- happy to play drums in QUO until he couldn't tolerate Francis anymore.
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Post by Mrs Flittersnoop on Apr 19, 2017 11:36:52 GMT
I don't remember John (at the time) naming Francis as the specific problem. Rick was always quite happy to make waves if it benefited him
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Post by dontquoteme on Apr 19, 2017 23:10:08 GMT
As Alan has said many times, he was trying to protect the brand name of Status Quo by stopping Rossi from carrying on with it and turning it into a laughing stock. Alan was right. He understood that the fans didn't want it being tarnished either.
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Post by MrWaistcoat on Apr 20, 2017 8:26:13 GMT
I think Alan has come to think like the hardcore - that the period upto Live! was amazing, and that it all started to go wrong afterwards.
During the split, he revealed that he was proud of what they'd achieved with 1982 and told Francis they'd "thrown it all away" with BTB.
I think it probably took Alan a long time out of the band to gain this perspective. I also wonder if he became influenced by the message boards?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2017 11:23:30 GMT
As Alan has said many times, he was trying to protect the brand name of Status Quo from becoming the brand that Rossi wanted to turn it into a laughing stock. Alan was right. He understood that the fans didn't want it being tarnished either. Some might see this type of correction to that statement
In truth Francis can't take all the blame, Rick let it happen and as we know the general management ethos also increasingly became one of entertainment and parody over rock music without gimmicks.
It is this which Alan disapproves of to the day, and partly at least why the old cracks started to appear once again by the time of the second FF reunion.
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Post by dontquoteme on Apr 21, 2017 0:00:54 GMT
As Alan has said many times, he was trying to protect the brand name of Status Quo from becoming the brand that Rossi wanted to turn it into a laughing stock. Alan was right. He understood that the fans didn't want it being tarnished either. Some might see this type of correction to that statement
In truth Francis can't take all the blame, Rick let it happen and as we know the general management ethos also increasingly became one of entertainment and parody over rock music without gimmicks.
It is this which Alan disapproves of to the day, and partly at least why the old cracks started to appear once again by the time of the second FF reunion.
I don't get where you're going with that...you appear to have turned my coherent statement into something incoherent
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