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Post by chrischi on Apr 17, 2017 23:07:17 GMT
Quo are still here, just enjoy it :-) I will 😀👌
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Post by paradiseflats on Apr 25, 2017 14:01:12 GMT
Back to the original topic, I was 14 on the eotr tour, so when they came back in 86, with F&R, then it was defs enough for me, all be it, clearly rhino didn't and never has suited the image of the band. Some crap albums, and static set list is what turned me off the band. But deep down I knew the line up was wrong, and half a band was no longer enough, by the reunion, I was finished with CQ. Does this excuse CQ fans for carrying on without Rick. I actually think that current CQ fans would carry on without Francis, as my perception of CQ fans is, fans who know a few hits and they are armchair fans. So they probably will continue to accept what ever tripe this band dish out...but lets make one thing clear, the current band are not and never can be status quo...whatever they call themselves. Francis and Rick showed who they were in 85/86. It was the end. Current Quo started in '81. When any member was shown to be expendable.
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Post by powerage on Apr 25, 2017 18:49:52 GMT
I'm going to stick it out until the very end. Sadly with the passing of Rick which confirmed we'll never see the Frantics on stage again, I've calmed right down on Quo and just kinda accept it now. As long as Spud is able to keep playing, I'll always go see him and his band and i'll hopefully being going to Reading Hexagon to see see the Aquostic show, I've not seen it yet.
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Post by Railroad17 on Apr 25, 2017 19:10:09 GMT
I'm going to stick it out until the very end. Sadly with the passing of Rick which confirmed we'll never see the Frantics on stage again, I've calmed right down on Quo and just kinda accept it now. As long as Spud is able to keep playing, I'll always go see him and his band and i'll hopefully being going to Reading Hexagon to see see the Aquostic show, I've not seen it yet. Good for you PA.But the big attraction was that Rossi/Parfitt..there you go said it!
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Post by whoaskedyou on Apr 25, 2017 22:49:14 GMT
I don't why but back in 1986 I just was pleased that they were back but when you look back at the video clips of Rhino and Jeff in ITAN or Dreaming ..I must have been in denial..just a completely different band image...not to say I have not had a fair amount of enjoyment over the years since because I have. I had a look at the recent clip of Ritchie starting up Caroline..neat and tidy..I am no musician..can't really find too much wrong..but not the stage presence of RP. The loss of Rick is massive..combined with the great FF gigs before and the unfortunate Aquostic efforts..what a roller coaster of a emotions in recent times..but for me No Rick No Quo. Now I just feel weary..There was always the outside hope of a bit more FF..something to dream about or the chance Rick might have come back down the line..dreams keep you going. Whatever your views on line ups if they must continue why could they not have had the balls to do some of their stuff from 1986 to Quid Pro Quo..just play ITAN,RAOTW,DD, and Caroline..then mix it all up..change everything..even if you hated it..they would get a bit more credit. The dreams are over..just the clip of Rick bashing out Caroline in the 2014 FF gigs to keep the chin up. You either get a connection or you don't..The loss of Rick ended my connection..For others it may have been earlier in 1982 or 1985. For some it may be just be the music but with Quo for me it all comes from FR,RP,AL and JC.
Peae and love to all
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Post by Quoincidence on Apr 25, 2017 23:44:39 GMT
Just listened to a preview of the O2 gig release on iTunes... the intro is so weak. No offence to Richie but there's no power behind it at all
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2017 8:56:24 GMT
I think maybe best not to polarise groups too much. Whilst I became a fan in the 70's and first and foremost that era is unsurpassable in my mind, I still have liked and enjoyed plenty enough CQ material over the years. Bearing in mind that covers 30 yrs in itself.
It was a sudden and emphatic process, but I suppose CQ only really started properly becoming CQ in my eyes following the reunion when they refused to take any initiative from that marvellous experience and shake up their own stale and increasingly happy clappy attitude, and sadly couldn't be true to themselves instead of a parody of the FF. In fact it seems that band/management seemed more determined than ever to move further into karaoke and gimmicks.
The conclusion I had long suspected, that post 85 Quo didn't have enough faith in their own product, finally became certainty - and now with Rick also gone, the shutters have pretty much finally gone down on Quo in my own mind. This process compounded still further by the parallel universe that the band/management seem to be living in since Rick passed away which, disturbingly, is way too convincingly stoic in terms of the "show must go on". Whatever is really going in those minds, bizarrely the outward impression is not too different to the period just prior to that fateful festive day. The difference of course is that Rick can no longer look on at the shows he is not attending....
Clearly its not the original fanbase that they are pitching to now, its those removed and detached from delicate Quo history which finally shuddered to a grinding halt last December - and who will go to their entertainment shows blissfully unaware and/or detached of all the sadness, but fully geared up to have a jolly and make the lives of the band and management much easier with no reminders of a past they would now rather put to the back of their minds, so a "good time" can still be had.
The message recently put out about the 2017 shows is a little disingenuous when it talks about great demand for the show to go on - its mostly casual/general public who have an appetite for that. The business and cash end, which is clearly all that matters now in terms of priorities, and it is fortunate for them that there seem to be enough of this demographic - even if AQ2 flopped.
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Post by MrWaistcoat on Apr 26, 2017 9:47:39 GMT
Back to the original topic, I was 14 on the eotr tour, so when they came back in 86, with F&R, then it was defs enough for me, all be it, clearly rhino didn't and never has suited the image of the band. Some crap albums, and static set list is what turned me off the band. But deep down I knew the line up was wrong, and half a band was no longer enough, by the reunion, I was finished with CQ. Does this excuse CQ fans for carrying on without Rick. I actually think that current CQ fans would carry on without Francis, as my perception of CQ fans is, fans who know a few hits and they are armchair fans. So they probably will continue to accept what ever tripe this band dish out...but lets make one thing clear, the current band are not and never can be status quo...whatever they call themselves. You are the same age as me, and I've taken a similar take on things as you have. I wasn't allowed to goto the EOTR tour (not that I had any money anyway!), which killed me. So not surprising fans our age lapped up the new line up and a chance to see SQ. My first gig (Liverpool Royal Court, 86) was amazing and left me deaf for 3 days. But you then talk about "CQ" fans as if you are not one. Until the last few years, we've both been ultra loyal, product buying, gig going, t-shirt wearing hardcore fans of "CQ" So the question beggs...."what is a CQ fan?" Be interesting to hear from the ones who hadn't seen Quo in decades until the reunion shows. Reckon they would say we are both "CQ" fans!
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Post by kevtic on Apr 26, 2017 11:30:13 GMT
Quo means different things to different people. Pretty much like life in general.
Quo to me was the hard rock band of the 70s/early 80s which i was lucky enough to see the final throes of the frantic four. I always went to see them live after the FF broke up and subsequent line ups because Rossi and particularly Parfitt were still there and although i only went for half a set (the songs written before 82/83) it was a pilgrimage I always made as the classics made up for the other crap. Watching Rick play Rain was worth the ticket money alone.
Now Rick's gone it's all over for me but if others want to keep going fair enough. I'm not that bothered either way. It's been clear for a long time Rossi gets what Rossi wants and if the punters keep buying the tickets then good luck to them. No one is forcing anyone to go. Some might regard it as a lack of respect etc. but we all have different views on that. Even before Rick died it was clear the band was carrying on in some form without him so in that respect him dying didn't change the long term plan as he wasn't part of it anyway.
i find it hard to comprehend anyone who would prefer the post FF split up Quo to the FF but i guess it maybe depends where you came in. To my ears they've never released anything that comes even close to the FF output of the 70s but maybe some folk think In the Army Now is the greatest song they've ever done. I'd question their sanity but they're entitled to their opinion.
So in summary if Rossi wants to continue with Quo and people want to go and see it then carry on. Nothing I say or do on a Quo forum is going to change that and as i said atthe beginning Quo means different things to different people and not worth getting too worked up about.
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Post by derryquo on Apr 26, 2017 16:05:29 GMT
Back to the original topic, I was 14 on the eotr tour, so when they came back in 86, with F&R, then it was defs enough for me, all be it, clearly rhino didn't and never has suited the image of the band. Some crap albums, and static set list is what turned me off the band. But deep down I knew the line up was wrong, and half a band was no longer enough, by the reunion, I was finished with CQ. Does this excuse CQ fans for carrying on without Rick. I actually think that current CQ fans would carry on without Francis, as my perception of CQ fans is, fans who know a few hits and they are armchair fans. So they probably will continue to accept what ever tripe this band dish out...but lets make one thing clear, the current band are not and never can be status quo...whatever they call themselves. You are the same age as me, and I've taken a similar take on things as you have. I wasn't allowed to goto the EOTR tour (not that I had any money anyway!), which killed me. So not surprising fans our age lapped up the new line up and a chance to see SQ. My first gig (Liverpool Royal Court, 86) was amazing and left me deaf for 3 days. But you then talk about "CQ" fans as if you are not one. Until the last few years, we've both been ultra loyal, product buying, gig going, t-shirt wearing hardcore fans of "CQ" So the question beggs...."what is a CQ fan?" Be interesting to hear from the ones who hadn't seen Quo in decades until the reunion shows. Reckon they would say we are both "CQ" fans! My definition of cq fan is simple. Ones who accepted fredie for one of shows. And then accepted Rick's departure even before he died.
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Post by Railroad17 on Apr 26, 2017 16:10:51 GMT
You are the same age as me, and I've taken a similar take on things as you have. I wasn't allowed to goto the EOTR tour (not that I had any money anyway!), which killed me. So not surprising fans our age lapped up the new line up and a chance to see SQ. My first gig (Liverpool Royal Court, 86) was amazing and left me deaf for 3 days. But you then talk about "CQ" fans as if you are not one. Until the last few years, we've both been ultra loyal, product buying, gig going, t-shirt wearing hardcore fans of "CQ" So the question beggs...."what is a CQ fan?" Be interesting to hear from the ones who hadn't seen Quo in decades until the reunion shows. Reckon they would say we are both "CQ" fans! My definition of cq fan is simple. Ones who accepted fredie for one of shows. And then accepted Rick's departure even before he died. I thought you would say "what is a CQ fan?" A Qunt
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Post by MrWaistcoat on Apr 28, 2017 15:40:46 GMT
You are the same age as me, and I've taken a similar take on things as you have. I wasn't allowed to goto the EOTR tour (not that I had any money anyway!), which killed me. So not surprising fans our age lapped up the new line up and a chance to see SQ. My first gig (Liverpool Royal Court, 86) was amazing and left me deaf for 3 days. But you then talk about "CQ" fans as if you are not one. Until the last few years, we've both been ultra loyal, product buying, gig going, t-shirt wearing hardcore fans of "CQ" So the question beggs...."what is a CQ fan?" Be interesting to hear from the ones who hadn't seen Quo in decades until the reunion shows. Reckon they would say we are both "CQ" fans! My definition of cq fan is simple. Ones who accepted fredie for one of shows. And then accepted Rick's departure even before he died. Far too simple...and unfair! We've both spent 30+ years following the band to here,and there can't much official SQ left. It's rational for fans just like us to think "well I've come this far, daft to walk away now before the end ". Neither does that mean they are happy with the way things have gone and are going.
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Post by curiousgirl on Apr 28, 2017 15:57:17 GMT
Not wishing to upset any fans who continued with Quo post 86 but seeing this clip from ToTPs recently (which I never saw in '86), this was the current Quo to me. Because I don't recognise the band I fell in love with. Not judging the quality of the music, simply saying that the band is different.
Adding this because youtube selected it and its the same year. 86.
Quo without Rick is not Quo at all to me. But if people out there wish to go, who am I to judge them for doing something they want to.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2017 16:33:40 GMT
I really liked the Rollin Home video with Francis and Rick made in the desert It greatly softens the pain of the frightful Dreamin video from Saturday Superstore that was to come I couldn't believe that Quo had come to that when I saw it doh
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2017 16:38:28 GMT
I don't why but back in 1986 I just was pleased that they were back but when you look back at the video clips of Rhino and Jeff in ITAN or Dreaming ..I must have been in denial..just a completely different band image...not to say I have not had a fair amount of enjoyment over the years since because I have. I had a look at the recent clip of Ritchie starting up Caroline..neat and tidy..I am no musician..can't really find too much wrong..but not the stage presence of RP. The loss of Rick is massive..combined with the great FF gigs before and the unfortunate Aquostic efforts..what a roller coaster of a emotions in recent times..but for me No Rick No Quo. Now I just feel weary..There was always the outside hope of a bit more FF..something to dream about or the chance Rick might have come back down the line..dreams keep you going. Whatever your views on line ups if they must continue why could they not have had the balls to do some of their stuff from 1986 to Quid Pro Quo..just play ITAN,RAOTW,DD, and Caroline..then mix it all up..change everything..even if you hated it..they would get a bit more credit. The dreams are over..just the clip of Rick bashing out Caroline in the 2014 FF gigs to keep the chin up. You either get a connection or you don't..The loss of Rick ended my connection..For others it may have been earlier in 1982 or 1985. For some it may be just be the music but with Quo for me it all comes from FR,RP,AL and JC. Peae and love to all This was a great post and it inspired my own soon afterwards. I just realised I had forgotten to "like" it though, so have added myself to the list
It pretty much sums up what I think.
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