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Post by Gaz on Apr 17, 2017 10:43:51 GMT
I too think its legitimate topic to talk about in this way. For me, its about timing in relation to Rick's death. Its too soon to see the band rolling on as if he never existed. And that earbook cover The problem Francis et al have is that he, Andy and even Rhino are too old now to wait a respectable amount of time before returning to the road. Using the Queen example, Freddie died in 1991 and only in the last few years are Queen touring with Andrew Lambert. I don't follow AC/DC to know how soon they continued after the death of Bon Scott but that must have been hard if it was soon after, even it all worked out in the end.
At the reunion gigs I met some CQ fans who were blown away by the Alan/John influence on the sound and could see the difference. So some may drop away. I suppose its why you go to a gig. Is it only for a good night out and the music without any big emotional attachment to the members? A bit like going to hear a piece of classical music with a symphony orchestra. Maybe this is what keeps the CQ fans going. Seeing Quo play live was always much more than that for me. It was the Quo. And it had to be them, those four for me.* Others can reproduce the sound well but its not the Quo. They're playing music written by Status Quo. However, I might be tempted to see another well known act without some key original members because I'm curious. And yes, Francis was (probably still is) my favourite band member, purely from a teenage perspective. He pissed me off royally over his reunion gig comments though. But he's not enough to keep me seeing Quo.Not even sure I want to see him play solo again. That was nice but not enough after what's happened. * I re-watched 4500x NEC 82 yesterday and that is what watching Quo means to me. My big fear prior to the reunion gigs was that it wouldn't be the same if they were forced to be more static due to age. But we all know they were brilliant still. Bon Scott died in Feb 1980 and Brian Johnson joined about a month later. They were recording Back In Black by April and it was released in July. They are similar to Quo in their approach to carrying on rightly or wrongly. Malcolm was diagnosed with Dementia and his and Angus Nephew Stevie qucikly replaced him. Then when Brian had hearing problems he was replaced with Axl (which I don't like BTW). Good post and very true
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Post by Quoincidence on Apr 17, 2017 10:55:32 GMT
I hate the majority of CQ fans anyway.... They don't have a clue what they're talking about, feel the need to argue all the time and when they get proven wrong, they resort to personal insults.
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Post by Gaz on Apr 17, 2017 11:15:23 GMT
Bon Scott died in Feb 1980 and Brian Johnson joined about a month later. They were recording Back In Black by April and it was released in July. They are similar to Quo in their approach to carrying on rightly or wrongly. Malcolm was diagnosed with Dementia and his and Angus Nephew Stevie qucikly replaced him. Then when Brian had hearing problems he was replaced with Axl (which I don't like BTW). They were still young guys when Bon died. One thing they never did was have Brian sing It’s a Long Way to the Top (If You Wanna Rock and Roll), arguably as much a signature song as Rain was to Rick. When I did my rant I'd had a small glass of sweet sherry, but it really does anger me that they couldn't be arsed to stop, take a breather, and rejig the set. At least drop Rain, ffs. Hey, but then this is the guy who brought in 'Oh Baby' from the FF gigs, just to give Al and JC another boot in the nuts. We all loved Francis, but when he became obsessed with worrying about what taking a risk might mean to his pension pot, he lost it. Big time. And where's the gig for Rick announcement? Yes they were young guys (AC/DC) but, really, they were also on the peak of breaking America. I'm sure older brother, George (ex Easybeats) had a lot to do with it... along with Albert studios of course.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2017 11:36:41 GMT
Bon Scott died in Feb 1980 and Brian Johnson joined about a month later. They were recording Back In Black by April and it was released in July. They are similar to Quo in their approach to carrying on rightly or wrongly. Malcolm was diagnosed with Dementia and his and Angus Nephew Stevie qucikly replaced him. Then when Brian had hearing problems he was replaced with Axl (which I don't like BTW). They were still young guys when Bon died. One thing they never did was have Brian sing It’s a Long Way to the Top (If You Wanna Rock and Roll), arguably as much a signature song as Rain was to Rick. When I did my rant I'd had a small glass of sweet sherry, but it really does anger me that they couldn't be arsed to stop, take a breather, and rejig the set. At least drop Rain, ffs. Hey, but then this is the guy who brought in 'Oh Baby' from the FF gigs, just to give Al and JC another boot in the nuts. We all loved Francis, but when he became obsessed with worrying about what taking a risk might mean to his pension pot, he lost it. Big time. And where's the gig for Rick announcement? Harvey's Bristol Cream I hope?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2017 16:19:33 GMT
I hate the majority of CQ fans anyway.... They don't have a clue what they're talking about, feel the need to argue all the time and when they get proven wrong, they resort to personal insults. Hi All, Why the hate ? at the end of the day they are Quo fans who just view Quo from a different prospective than You,me or any FF fan, just accept they are not looking at Quo from your point of view and move on. It's a pointless emotion and if personal insults come your way just rise above it and report them to El Capitano simple!!.........
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Post by derryquo on Apr 17, 2017 16:20:20 GMT
Back to the original topic, I was 14 on the eotr tour, so when they came back in 86, with F&R, then it was defs enough for me, all be it, clearly rhino didn't and never has suited the image of the band. Some crap albums, and static set list is what turned me off the band. But deep down I knew the line up was wrong, and half a band was no longer enough, by the reunion, I was finished with CQ.
Does this excuse CQ fans for carrying on without Rick. I actually think that current CQ fans would carry on without Francis, as my perception of CQ fans is, fans who know a few hits and they are armchair fans. So they probably will continue to accept what ever tripe this band dish out...but lets make one thing clear, the current band are not and never can be status quo...whatever they call themselves.
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Post by derryquo on Apr 17, 2017 16:24:31 GMT
I hate the majority of CQ fans anyway.... They don't have a clue what they're talking about, feel the need to argue all the time and when they get proven wrong, they resort to personal insults. Hi All, Why the hate ? at the end of the day they are Quo fans who just view Quo from a different prospective than You,me or any FF fan, just accept they are not looking at Quo from your point of view and move on. It's a pointless emotion and if personal insults come your way just rise above it and report them to El Capitano simple!!.........
Geoff.
Hate is a strong word, so I don't hate them, but I don't regard them as fans of status quo either. The are fans of a band that can never be status quo, and when they express that this band is status quo, I just regard them as fecking twats.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2017 16:41:13 GMT
When I did my rant I'd had a small glass of sweet sherry, At home with 4th Chord...
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Post by ablues on Apr 17, 2017 16:42:31 GMT
I started this thread with a question and was hopeful of some answers/comment from CQ fans but it would seem none have replied based on the comments of those who have. Maybe there are none left?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2017 17:11:09 GMT
Hi All, Why the hate ? at the end of the day they are Quo fans who just view Quo from a different prospective than You,me or any FF fan, just accept they are not looking at Quo from your point of view and move on. It's a pointless emotion and if personal insults come your way just rise above it and report them to El Capitano simple!!.........
Geoff.
Hate is a strong word, so I don't hate them, but I don't regard them as fans of status quo either. The are fans of a band that can never be status quo, and when they express that this band is status quo, I just regard them as fecking twats. Hi All Dq, That is what my reply was referring it's in the post the first two words in "I hate" It's up to the individual but to hate someone for having a difference of opinion is a bit much really IMPO. Yes we live in a free world with free speech and all that but like I said it's a pointless emotion as far as being a fan of whatever or whoever just move if you don't like whatever simple.
As you state you think they are twats for whatever reason that's fine it's your point of view, as far as I am concerned we on this forum or any other forum are all Quo fans simple! and just like the big wide world it has both good and bad. While I can see the frustration by many fans against others it's from your their perspective that is all, it is your perspective just the same as I have one when looking at the forum threads I have a point of view on whatever subject and forumites either agree or not simple! The latter mostly..
Geoff.
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Post by freewilly on Apr 17, 2017 17:12:22 GMT
I started this thread with a question and was hopeful of some answers/comment from CQ fans but it would seem none have replied based on the comments of those who have. Maybe there are none left? Posted it in the wrong forum mate. Posters here are in touch with reality There is another forum, where the moderator hates Alan, things he's the worst person in the world, thinks what JC is doing with his band is embarrassing, thinks the FF material is shite and thinks that Rick wasn't "that important" to the band...You'd get better answers there
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Post by ablues on Apr 17, 2017 17:23:35 GMT
I started this thread with a question and was hopeful of some answers/comment from CQ fans but it would seem none have replied based on the comments of those who have. Maybe there are none left? Posted it in the wrong forum mate. Posters here are in touch with reality There is another forum, where the moderator hates Alan, things he's the worst person in the world, thinks what JC is doing with his band is embarrassing, thinks the FF material is shite and thinks that Rick wasn't "that important" to the band... You'd get better answers thereoh no I wouldn't been looking at that place a bunch of mods talking to themselves and playing with easter eggs with the odd punter chipping something in every 2 weeks or so
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Post by Quoincidence on Apr 17, 2017 18:26:33 GMT
I hate the majority of CQ fans anyway.... They don't have a clue what they're talking about, feel the need to argue all the time and when they get proven wrong, they resort to personal insults. Hi All, Why the hate ? at the end of the day they are Quo fans who just view Quo from a different prospective than You,me or any FF fan, just accept they are not looking at Quo from your point of view and move on. It's a pointless emotion and if personal insults come your way just rise above it and report them to El Capitano simple!!.........
Geoff.
It was some freak on facebook... sent me a message and blocked me soon after so I couldn't reply Said I looked like I listen to Coldplay and I don't look like a Quo fan... Do Quo fans have to have a certain appearance? and then tried to use the fact that I've studied music against me somehow. Sad man he really was... it's funny as well cause they seem to love offering out fights for being proven wrong about something.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2017 18:40:01 GMT
Hi All, Quoincidence As I read the first lines my first thought was the same, I never realised all we Quo fans look alike jesus a world full of my mug... The down side of being on the social media is that it attracts all sorts of idiots who tend not to see further than their own reflection sadly, apart from that it's great place for keyboard warriors that have emerged from behind their Pc's......
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Post by Mrs Flittersnoop on Apr 17, 2017 22:54:02 GMT
I know the circumstances are different and this is not intended in bad taste. The circumstances in which Richie Malone joined the band and the circumstances in which he now remains in the band were of course tragic and saddened us all, but I wonder if CQ fans who got into the band in the 80's (or later) after Spud and Nuff left have a better understanding of how FF fans felt about Quo without the two aforementioned? I think it's clear what you mean, so no worries. I think possibly not. Those who seem to be of the 'it's still Quo, you're not a Quo fan anymore if you don't still support the ban in its current form', generally, and I mean generally, are huge Francis Rossi fans. Everyone else in the band is, and was, secondary. Some people don't seem to get, or have, the emotional connection with the band members. The guys who sat together in a room and wrote and played those great songs. People go on about how it's a business, and why everyone should still make a living. I read someone say 'why should Francis suffer because of the lifestyle of his band partner', which I personally thought was a horrendous thing to say. He's maybe not suffering but as an artist he has a choice. Well done to CQ for continuing a career, but to do it as if nothing has happened, playing the same sets, having others sing Rick's songs, Rain in particular, makes me fucking mad at the disrespect shown. And that fucking album cover for the new live release, taking out Rick and putting in Richie. Anyone supporting that and trying to take the moral high ground can fuck right off. Rant over. I guess I am a dinosaur walking the misty swamps of the Quo borderlands. Not a true fan until after Spud left. (An accident of timing, but still.) Continued to love the live band after Alan was ousted. Wished them all well and hoped for the best. Did not hate the 1980s albums (But very definitely could hear what was lost.) Rick took over Alan's songs. I was kind of glad about that in one way, but I missed Alan, not the slightest doubt about that. The "FF" were not iconic to me, I was not early enough for that, but I knew that what we now call the "FF" had grown up to be the engine of what I loved about Quo, and I gradually came to know that this would never happen again. I see that seeing someone else, a lesser singer it had to be (I can't even remember who it was, how iconic is that! ), sing Rain, did not hit me the way it hits many here, because Rain was never one of my core songs. And (patience, I am going somewhere with this), I think The Band brought Oh Baby into the CQ set specially for me (and the other fan over the other side of the arena) so that we could hear it one more time before the end. But there is no saving it. The wheels are gradually coming off, despite the patch ups. Never mind the ruddy set, Rick will never sing 4500 Times again and nothing can change that ... It's kind of inevitable that the Francis fans will be the ones who hang on longest, as Francis is the one who is still operating, but he can't close the gap on the loss of Rick. He still has energy, I saw that in December, but in all this time he still hasn't found a way of harnessing it to do what he really wanted to do when he took Quo off in a different direction after 1985. I think it will take a few years before the loss of Quo really sinks in. I lost my best band before Quo ever recorded Live in 76. One of the core members was dead less than a decade later, before he made 40. (The year after I became a Quo fan in fact.) But I can never really know how the old FF fans feel about the loss of John and Alan, because I wasn't there, but I know it is a terrible and a painful thing. By the way, I know this is one of the universe's great "never happens", but what happens now if John and Alan get back together with Francis? I know, never 'appen, but what if it did??? What would people feel then?
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