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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2017 9:41:17 GMT
Fiji Time, the ska take on Bula Quo, I think is a really good song within the context of the album. That, and Running Inside My Head are the best songs on the album.
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Post by frozenhero on Apr 5, 2017 9:44:42 GMT
I quite like Dreamin' - for pity's sake - which is totally unacceptable - unlike the songs I like on 1982, which I feel comfortable admitting. I also like Dreamin', but it's a very taboo song to like... Strange it was written in the early 70's as Naughty Girl and shoved to the side until Army, and then renamed Dreamin' because of the whole thing with Alan I think the song isn't half bad, but the arrangement really turns it into something horrible. Wish they had recorded it earlier, before those synths were available...
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Post by frozenhero on Apr 5, 2017 9:48:22 GMT
I also like Dreamin', but it's a very taboo song to like... Strange it was written in the early 70's as Naughty Girl and shoved to the side until Army, and then renamed Dreamin' because of the whole thing with Alan I find it pretty difficult to believe that it was written in the early 70's. Not because i'm post-85-phobic or even dislike their 80's stuff, but it's songwriting style is nothing like anything from the 70's. I don't mean the style of the music obviously, just the melody and lyrics. Maybe the person who said this (from an interview?) or typed it, meant to say/write 80's.....early 80's i could certainly believe. Having said that, i don't like it anyway. No, from what I heard it was the very first song Francis and Bernie wrote together. Given that they knew each other before IYCSTH and Bernie already wrote "A Year" with Alan, I don't think the information is incorrect. It does, in fact, confirm two things: 1) Francis always had that ultra-poppy element in him, it just didn't show up so much on the 70s albums 2) Bernie's co-writes are usually a lot poppier than Bob's
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2017 10:01:51 GMT
Like you, I begin in the FF era first and foremost as the golden era, but once that had finished I didn't have any problems with comparisons to the original band because I always saw them as something separate and not the same. Nothing could ever be that good again. Plus trying to emulate a formula stated by four people who made it so unique was impossible anyway.
So I've usually treated the CQ albums on their own merits and therefore appreciate some of their less rock orientated material - as long as it has been done in an acceptable way. The synthetic 80's sound, was just that - too synthetic and whilst they were far as they could be from the FF in stark difference, they also tried too much to fit the 80's genre - and it didn't work.
So I agree, TW was something refreshing from that. Its variations and departures worked in a way the 80's albums didn't - even if it was less of a rock orientated album than RTYD which had already ditched that synthetic sound.
With Bula Quo a limit was crossed for me and I gave up on them and especially on the even bigger crap that followed ! I will always enjoy all FF albums, 1982, UTI, TPAOY and QPQ, but that's it. And with Rick gone it will never be the same ever. If Rossi could just Take this band for what it is and go ahead with the new songs (regardless of whether I or any other quofan likes them or not) instead of relying on what he claims to hate...at least I could appreciate that a lot more then what he is doing now...ah well... I tried to take Bula Quo in the context it was intended as a film with songs written for it, so whilst its hardly a musical milestone, it wasn't in itself a big catalyst in my own turn off. It was the stark difference in attitude and approach that the FF reunions offered - a huge sudden illustration and reminder of the differences between the two bands. Rock music on stage vs parody and karaoke on stage. (And to quite a degree off it as well)
This, and following the reunions, the refusal of CQ to take inspiration from the original band and produce a spontaneous set with songs not played before, was what did it for me.
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Post by Victor on Apr 5, 2017 10:25:58 GMT
With Bula Quo a limit was crossed for me and I gave up on them and especially on the even bigger crap that followed ! I will always enjoy all FF albums, 1982, UTI, TPAOY and QPQ, but that's it. And with Rick gone it will never be the same ever. If Rossi could just Take this band for what it is and go ahead with the new songs (regardless of whether I or any other quofan likes them or not) instead of relying on what he claims to hate...at least I could appreciate that a lot more then what he is doing now...ah well... I tried to take Bula Quo in the context it was intended as a film with songs written for it, so whilst its hardly a musical milestone, it wasn't in itself a big catalyst in my own turn off. It was the stark difference in attitude and approach that the FF reunions offered - a huge sudden illustration and reminder of the differences between the two bands. Rock music on stage vs parody and karaoke on stage. (And to quite a degree off it as well)
This, and following the reunions, the refusal of CQ to take inspiration from the original band and produce a spontaneous set with songs not played before, was what did it for me.
Oh believ me, the reunions had a bunch to do with it for me as well. I finally saw the FF in 2014 for the first time and it was unlike anything I ever saw before from them !
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Post by Quoincidence on Apr 5, 2017 21:33:25 GMT
I also like Dreamin', but it's a very taboo song to like... Strange it was written in the early 70's as Naughty Girl and shoved to the side until Army, and then renamed Dreamin' because of the whole thing with Alan I think the song isn't half bad, but the arrangement really turns it into something horrible. Wish they had recorded it earlier, before those synths were available... It's hard to imagine what Naughty Girl would've sounded like in the 70's... Might roughly have been the same rhythm wise, just minus the synth. Ain't Complaining can be added to my list of unmentionables Don't Stop, although wrong for Quo, has some really good covers on it! Little Dreamer and Perfect Remedy are a good combo... Marguerita Time also fairly taboo, I enjoy it.
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Post by gav on Apr 5, 2017 22:39:36 GMT
I think the song isn't half bad, but the arrangement really turns it into something horrible. Wish they had recorded it earlier, before those synths were available... It's hard to imagine what Naughty Girl would've sounded like in the 70's... Might roughly have been the same rhythm wise, just minus the synth.Β Maybe a bit of a "Blue Eyed Lady" groove?
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Post by Victor on Apr 6, 2017 0:18:51 GMT
It's hard to imagine what Naughty Girl would've sounded like in the 70's... Might roughly have been the same rhythm wise, just minus the synth. Maybe a bit of a "Blue Eyed Lady" groove? I don't know...if you listen to the melody of the song, it sounds in structure and melodic wise more like something from the RAOTW period...similar maybe to Can't give you more...the song was not bad, but those fecking SYNTH TRUMPETS !!!
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Post by slowtrain7 on Apr 6, 2017 0:31:22 GMT
I think that RTYD is a brilliant and superb album. It showed that they can do a political song like Warning Shot. Polly, One Man Band and No Problems, Good Sign, Nothing Comes Easy and Forty Five Hundred Times Written-By β Rossi*, Parfitt* are faves of mine. Have a look at who the GENIUS was producing the album. The FF produced their early 70's albums with great results. Don't Stop should've been produced with a PUNK attitude not the lightweight production it got. Same with RAOTW.
1 Like A Zombie Written-By β Frost*, Rossi* 5:01 2 All We Really Wanna Do (Polly) Written-By β Frost*, Rossi* 3:47 3 Fakin' The Blues Written-By β Frost*, Rossi* 4:28 4 One Man Band Written-By β Williams*, Parfitt* 4:29 5 Rock 'Til You Drop Written-By β Bown* 3:18 6 Can't Give You More Written-By β Young*, Rossi* 4:26 7 Warning Shot Written-By β Bown*, Edwards* 3:57 8 Let's Work Together Written-By β Harrison* 3:40 9 Bring It On Home Written-By β Cooke* 3:10 10 No Problems Written-By β Rossi*, Parfitt* 4:47 11 Good Sign Written-By β Williams*, Parfitt* 4:14 12 Tommy Written-By β Frost*, Rossi* 3:51 13 Nothing Comes Easy Written-By β Bown*, Rossi*, Rich*, Edwards*, Parfitt* 5:48 14 Fame Or Money Written-By β Bown*, Rossi* 4:06 15 Price Of Love Written-By β Everly*, Everly* 3:40 16 Forty Five Hundred Times Written-By β Rossi*, Parfitt* 12:58 Credits Performer β Andrew Bown*, Francis Rossi, Jeff Rich, John "Rhino" Edwards, Rick Parfitt Producer β Francis Rossi
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Post by Quoincidence on Apr 6, 2017 1:04:57 GMT
Maybe a bit of a "Blue Eyed Lady" groove? I don't know...if you listen to the melody of the song, it sounds in structure and melodic wise more like something from the RAOTW period...similar maybe to Can't give you more...the song was not bad, but those fecking SYNTH TRUMPETS !!! I was thinking it would definitely fit amongst the tracks on IYCSTH perhaps... meaning it would probably still end up with a fair few synths. To even kind of understand what it would have sounded like if the Frantic Four had recorded it would be if someone did a very stripped cover of it
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Post by Victor on Apr 6, 2017 8:46:02 GMT
I don't know...if you listen to the melody of the song, it sounds in structure and melodic wise more like something from the RAOTW period...similar maybe to Can't give you more...the song was not bad, but those fecking SYNTH TRUMPETS !!! I was thinking it would definitely fit amongst the tracks on IYCSTH perhaps... meaning it would probably still end up with a fair few synths. To even kind of understand what it would have sounded like if the Frantic Four had recorded it would be if someone did a very stripped cover of it Yep, would indeed not be out of place on IYCSTH either...if synths had been used on it at that time, I almost dare to guarantee it would still ave sounded a heck of a lot better then the ITAN version !
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Post by gav on Apr 6, 2017 8:59:21 GMT
Maybe a bit of a "Blue Eyed Lady" groove? I don't know...if you listen to the melody of the song, it sounds in structure and melodic wise more like something from the RAOTW period...similar maybe to Can't give you more...the song was not bad, but those fecking SYNTH TRUMPETS !!!Β I don't know either, I think the song IS bad from a Quo point-of-view. I think it's twee, happy-clappy, cheap n cheerful...trying way too hard to be a 'pop song'. And all written in major. No light and shade or hint of a blues scale that was their trademark.
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Post by Victor on Apr 6, 2017 11:01:30 GMT
I don't know...if you listen to the melody of the song, it sounds in structure and melodic wise more like something from the RAOTW period...similar maybe to Can't give you more...the song was not bad, but those fecking SYNTH TRUMPETS !!! I don't know either, I think the song IS bad from a Quo point-of-view. I think it's twee, happy-clappy, cheap n cheerful...trying way too hard to be a 'pop song'. And all written in major. No light and shade or hint of a blues scale that was their trademark. Yes...but that was true as early as fine fine fine, that melody has a very strong country ring to it.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2017 11:47:56 GMT
If we are still talking about that atrocious Dreamin' song, there isn't a single redeeming feature about it, synths or no synths. "Twee" is being kind
As said many times previously, this song appearing on Saturday morning telly when it was first released was my first true "OMG moment" with Quo.
IYCSTH gets a lot of stick with Quo fans for its experiments with production, backing vocals etc, but I've always enjoyed the album. I can remember John Peel (RIP) bless him, playing quite a few songs from the album prior to release on his late evening show. My Dad, who unlike my Mum thought Quo were a joke band, even liked the album
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Post by gav on Apr 6, 2017 12:36:05 GMT
I don't know either, I think the song IS bad from a Quo point-of-view. I think it's twee, happy-clappy, cheap n cheerful...trying way too hard to be a 'pop song'. And all written in major. No light and shade or hint of a blues scale that was their trademark. Yes...but that was true as early as fine fine fine, that melody has a very strong country ring to it. True, but FFF doesn't sound like a nursery rhyme!!
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